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HiFiman HE-500 (HE as in High End) Proving to be an enjoyable experience in listening. . - Page 395post #5911 of 141657/1/13 at 11:14pmLike...uhhh........What happened?
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So I plugged in my HE-500 directly to the speaker outputs (for the first time) of a vintage harman/kardon PM640 Vxi.
I could only hear two noticeable differences to the usual headphone outs I know and love.
1 - there was a noise floor - so that's the amp. Nothing out of the ordinary so it doesn't really count.
2 - the sub bass was a touch more dominant. It was also less tight and slower. If I listened to a lot more electronic music I might consider making space on my desk for a speaker amp, but even then I much prefer the bass from some of my other dynamic headphones.
If there were any differences to be heard in the midrange or treble, they were not significant enough on this amp to make an accurate judgement.
I may try out my more humble Fisher amp in future (whose headphone out I prefer to the lifeless harman kardon's), but for now it's connected to it's cable-salad under the TV.post #5914 of 141657/2/13 at 8:37amQuote:
While I don't listen to Taylor swift, I did compare the cup size of the HE500 to Taylor Swift's and the HE500 managed to win by a small margin based on roundness and firmness. Does this count?post #5915 of 141657/2/13 at 8:48amQuote:
Interesting comparison. Do you have any visual aids?post #5916 of 141657/2/13 at 9:27am
While I do not have graphs and exact measurements for diameter/density for both to back up my claim, after a $5k lasik operation, my eyes are deadly accurate. It got to be 20/20 or better. Just like headphones and amps, "they" do come in all shapes/sizes. It all comes down to personal preference. I don't believe that bigger is better. That's why I still love my little E09K ... until the big a.. Emotiva comes this Friday.post #5917 of 141657/2/13 at 9:30amQuote:
O2 supplies less than 600mW, more like 300.
When HE-500 peaks, it will mostly not draw anywhere near 1W. That is almost 120dB, you know... At reasonable listening volume, you would not need that headroom. If you listen at an average of 80dB, you would need a recording to have peaks of almost 40dB. You could run into problems if you crank your HE-500 to very high volume or listen to very dynamic recordings, though. But there are some out there who listen at only 60-70 dB, and then the O2 would be more than enough.
Say your not in luck, and get a HE-500 that measures 86dB/mw and has an impedance of some 50 ohms (which could easily happen, anyone remember what Tyll measured his HE-500 to?), then some beefier amping would be good.post #5918 of 141657/2/13 at 9:51ampost #5919 of 141657/2/13 at 10:12ampost #5920 of 141657/2/13 at 11:35ampost #5921 of 141657/2/13 at 12:55pmpost #5922 of 141657/2/13 at 2:04pmpost #5923 of 141657/2/13 at 2:31pmpost #5924 of 141657/2/13 at 2:34pmQuote:
By no means am I bashing the 337, like I have reiterated on multiple occasions I think it is fantastic with the HD 650, I just prefer the Lyr with the HE-500. The Lyr is ultra tube responsive and if you find the right tube it is an amazing little amp for the money. Judge not what you hear at a meet with unknown tubes.
That is what I consider the fantastic thing about this hobby we all share, we all hear different.
And the worst part is, I actually have been on a solid state kick as of late and have found that I may prefer the Audio GD SA-31 with the HE-500 .post #5925 of 141657/2/13 at 2:40pmQuote:Originally Posted by M-13
It's sad to see that when people run out of actual arguments they resort to name calling. I asked Eke if he owns the HE-500 and what amps he's tried them with and in response he called me an idiotic troll. My question was fair and his answer was nonsense and the very definition of trolling.
And I responded by saying that I had more than enough time with them. If I had actually bought them for the week and a half that I had it, then sold it...would my impressions be more valid?
I call you idiotic because you hook up a HEADPHONE to SPEAKER taps, then say it has "increased dynamic range", which is audiophile for "it gets louder". What do you expect?! Then, you say that the bass response is definitely increased due to the extra power, when in fact it could be due to the sound signature of the amp.
It's not the fact that you like the Emotiva. I hate your conceited, condescending attitude, and the fact that you poke fun at others who disagree with you. I don't think you've learned the art of arguing your point without starting a fuss.
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