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post #5866 of 14197
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Balanced or unbalanced won't make a difference with Emotiva. However, having a balanced cable will help in the future with both balanced and single ended amps. That's about it.


Thx for confirming what I could remember from sleeping in my physic classes back in college days.  biggrin.gif

post #5867 of 14197
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

I noticed a considerable difference in bass output when comparing my HE500's through an O2 and NFB10SE (single ended, and then even more improvement in bass control when balanced on the NFB10SE)

 

Same story with my Corda Classic

 

I found very similar results when I had the NFB10SE and compared it with the emotiva. My chain went something like  NFB-10SE (Single ended) < NFB-10SE (balanced) < Emotiva A-100

 

The bass control is much improved in each step.

 

 

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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post


Just a silly technical question, since the Emotiva has common ground between L/R, is it not correct that the HE500 will not really benefit from a balanced connection at all from the Mini-x vs. an amp with native balanced output?

 

That is a good question to ask. Keep in mind that just because an amplifier is balanced, doesn't mean it is superior to all non balanced amplifiers. A balanced amplifier is basically two single ended ones tied together (I know this is a huge generalization, but stay with me). I found the A-100 to beat out my Little Dot MKVI+, and another member thought it was on par with the Mjolnir. Both of these are balanced amplifiers. 

post #5868 of 14197

i just got a package in the mail today for me HE-500 from GREQ. they feel excellent to touch and wear. they also help distribute the weight a lot better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

unfortunately i already had the headphones to their smallest setting, so it squishes the snap part of the band as you can see.

 

 

 

i will write back when i have more time to use them to review comfort on longer listening sessions, but these are nice and high quality to me out of the box. L3000.gif

post #5869 of 14197
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

The best thing about emotiva is that you can listen at low volume levels and still have great satisfying bass response. With other amps like O2, you would need to turn the volume up a bit to get the desired bass response, and even then it wouldn't come close. I found this to be true with HE-500, LCD-2 and LCD-3. Much more enjoying and easy on the ears listening at low/medium volumes and getting decent bass throughout.
So true. Speaker amps in general give you better performance all round but listening at low volumes give you firm control and keeps the soundstage intact. But when you want to really boogy, there's no problem cranking it to 11 biggrin.gif.
post #5870 of 14197
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

It very well could be. I personally don't find anything overly exaggerated with any of my headphones. Same results with speakers.

 

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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

I noticed a considerable difference in bass output when comparing my HE500's through an O2 and NFB10SE (single ended, and then even more improvement in bass control when balanced on the NFB10SE)

 

Same story with my Corda Classic

 

So, it could just very well be that the Emotiva is a bassier amplifier, not that it unlocks some hidden potential in the HE-500.

 

Cool.

post #5871 of 14197
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

Ok, then could it be possible that the Emotiva itself is bass heavy, and not that the HE-500 benefits from a power plant?

 

 

I would suggest giving the HE-6 amplification a glance at some point. Basically every orthodynamic driver benefits from the extra power of a speaker amp. Before the HE-500 was release many (if not most) HE-6 owners were already running the HE-6 on speaker amps. 

post #5872 of 14197
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post


So true. Speaker amps in general give you better performance all round but listening at low volumes give you firm control and keeps the soundstage intact. But when you want to really boogy, there's no problem cranking it to 11 biggrin.gif.

 

Agreed, but 11 o clock on Emotiva with HE-500 eek.gif

 

Only with classical music, movie soundtracks or stuff with huge dynamic range can I dare to do that. Try this electronic, hip hop or rap and you are going to fry your ears in no time.biggrin.gif

post #5873 of 14197
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

 

So, it could just very well be that the Emotiva is a bassier amplifier, not that it unlocks some hidden potential in the HE-500.

 

Cool.

 

It all depends on your reference point I suppose. I can definitely vouch for the fact that Emotiva isn't a special unlocking amp of that kind. It's good price, doubles as headphone amp and doesn't take much space for speaker amp. Although one can argue that maybe the HE-500 doesn't have a hidden potential to begin with.

 

For example, I never got good depth with HE-500 through any amp. Emotiva with speakers and LCD-2 gives decent depth. I'm sure there are really good amps out there that can make it sound really nice, but can it also fix the inherent lack of depth that I've been noticing.

post #5874 of 14197
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

I would suggest giving the HE-6 amplification a glance at some point. Basically every orthodynamic driver benefits from the extra power of a speaker amp. Before the HE-500 was release many (if not most) HE-6 owners were already running the HE-6 on speaker amps. 

 

Not quite true. The HE-6 is just ridiculously insensitive, not that it's magically hard to drive or anything. The trace along the driver has extremely high resistance, necessitating the high power requirements to push enough current through. The Lyr can comfortably drive the HE-6.

post #5875 of 14197
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

Not quite true. The HE-6 is just ridiculously insensitive, not that it's magically hard to drive or anything. The trace along the driver has extremely high resistance, necessitating the high power requirements to push enough current through. The Lyr can comfortably drive the HE-6.

 

I just don't even.... 

post #5876 of 14197
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

 

 

So, it could just very well be that the Emotiva is a bassier amplifier, not that it unlocks some hidden potential in the HE-500.

 

Cool.

I'm suggesting that the HE500 has no hidden potential if you drive it sufficiently. I would say the O2 does not drive it sufficiently (as much as I wanted the O2 to be the best amp ever)

 

Just my 2c

post #5877 of 14197

Hi there, I'm going to be moving up from a Hifiman HE-400 to a Hifiman HE-500 sometime tomorrow hopefully. I'd like to know the cheapest (non-DIY) method to connect the Hifiman HE-500s to an Emotiva A-100 amp. 

 

I'd also like to know how the Lyr pairs with the Hifiman HE-500s, or if there are any better alternatives in that price range (aside from the Emotiva amp).

 

Thanks in advance.

post #5878 of 14197
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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

I just don't even.... 

+1 LOL very_evil_smiley.gif

post #5879 of 14197
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Agreed, but 11 o clock on Emotiva with HE-500 eek.gif

 

 

He's talking about the proverbial 11 from Spinal Tap fame, not 11 o'clock on the Emotiva.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven


Edited by Radioking59 - 7/1/13 at 6:04pm
post #5880 of 14197
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Originally Posted by Hedonism View Post

Hi there, I'm going to be moving up from a Hifiman HE-400 to a Hifiman HE-500 sometime tomorrow hopefully. I'd like to know the cheapest (non-DIY) method to connect the Hifiman HE-500s to an Emotiva A-100 amp. 

 

I'd also like to know how the Lyr pairs with the Hifiman HE-500s, or if there are any better alternatives in that price range (aside from the Emotiva amp).

 

Thanks in advance.

I liked my HE500's through my Corda Classic and Audio-GD NFB10SE. They are both worth checking out.

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