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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Nah, I think you're fine. The Compass 2 should keep you happy for a while. If you notice bass flab you know where to turn to. If you don't notice flab, then you might be alright. The Compass 2 still does 3 Watts and is a current drive design, it's not exactly a Fiio E17. evil_smiley.gif

 

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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

 

Um 2W @ 50 ohms? That's definitely enough power. The Compass is built for low impedance headphones. A lot of the newer Audio-GD gear focuses on lower impedance headphones. 

 

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/Headphoneamp/Compass%202/Compass2EN_Specs.htm

 

 

Will you get a little more performance out of a speaker amp? Yup. Necessary? Nope

 

Thanks for the reassurance guys.

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I'm almost scared of how good compressed audio can sound. Ogg 112 kbit, and I felt pressed when ABX'ing with the flac file! Will maybe try some other time with different songs and bitrate so on so forth...

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Originally Posted by elwappo99 View Post

Hah! We were always friends. Discussion and critiquing of amplifiers and headphones shouldn't ever breach friendships, and my wasn't intended that way. 


Just a few things here. There are a smaller number of tube amplifiers that are coming out that could do well with low impedance headphones.  That's not saying you could plug the HE-500 into a bottlehead crack, but the impedance difference doesn't allow the HE-500 to perform optimally. The same with the 337, which is designed for higher impedance headphones.  I have never found the woo audio amplifiers to do well with price/performance. 

I don't think the 337 is a devil number, but just isn't that popular of an amplifier. In fact, I think you're the only member who's active and has one. 
wink.gif i understand what u mean about the tube amps and their contruction restrictions...
Damn..if the 337 is nit optimally driving the he500.... Then good lord..my new amp will put me in a trance of pure bliss then..as it will be a solid state amp. biggrin.gif

And ur right..friendships are for being open to each other and being not afraid to be honest of what we think or feel....

And about u saying that i am the only one active 337 owner..ur maybe right...i checked the 339 thread..and so far..i am the only one with a 337 posting there..the rest has a lafigaro 339...and those posters u can count on two hands.. Damn i am of a dying race.... And i checked owners of blue circle audio products to be sure..of those are even less biggrin.gif

soon i have no backup or likewise soulmates anymore..i will be all alone in the headfi universe ...have pity on me..and buy a blue circle audio product also..that way i wont be feeling alone then biggrin.gif
Okay..i then just have to buy a emotiva then..even if its just to feel connected then biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

So you bought a E9K?

 

How do you like the improvements over the E17 alone? Can you hear a difference with Moar power? evil_smiley.gif


@M-13,

Ah did not read your post carefully.  From the E17 to the E9K, about 30% or so improvement according to my bad ears.  :)

Then yesterday, I tried out an audio-gd which had way more pwr in comparison to the E9K.  I was not very impressed with the overall sound but for the first time, I/my ear drums physically could feel the air/drivers move in the HE500 when the low freqs hit.  So this morning, I decided to get the Mini-x just to test it out and see for myself how much of an improvement this much pwr will give the HE500.  For $189, I can call it an experiment biggrin.gif but I can sort of guess already what the result will be judging from my brief time with the audio-gd's pwr.  The Mini-x can only be more.

 

I'll let you guys know by next Saturday.  The Emotiva is coming on Friday.


Edited by koiloco - 6/28/13 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

lolz....well...check a darkv 33..couch..couch...lafi 33..couch couch....ly..couch couch...decwa couch couch .... i cant say those names outloud here..or else i could be cruzified biggrin.gif

or try the emotiva...yep..that name i can mention without being dismembered or something like that.... wink.gif

 

but in my opinion....and i am probably opening a BIG can of worms here again: pls invest some good money on ur amp and dac and use high quality lossless music (flac,wav,  sacd etc.).... the he500 needs a good amp and sources...and it deserves it!!! its a wonderfull can!!..and it will shine when u do!...

 

and am also not talking about multi watts of amping here!..as the headphone amp which was specificaly designed for the most powerhungry headphone at this moment, he6, Hifiman own EF6, 'only'  has 5 watts at 50ohm (1600 usd!)...so any more  watts would be overkill. they make those 2 headphones..so i guess they know best what amping is sufficient to drive their headphones to their limits of soundquality... hifman isnt the brand to overprice their products...so if u have to pay premium for a EF6 acording to hifiman then i guess u have to pay premium to get the utmost out of ur he6....or ur he500...the he500 'only' needs 1 watt at 50 ohm to sound on its best...

 

but as i said before...power is nothiing without control..some amps deliver huge amount of watts and cost almost nothing...that low price has to come somewhere..no one sells products without profit... for me..i prefer detail and warmth above big bass..something those big power budget amps deliver...and people who want that i respect completely...and i also know people dont have multi 1000 usd to spend on their rig..and i also know that some 'high end' priced components dont deserve the name high end...

 

most of the 'negatives' which is mentioned here about the he500 dont exist on my rig...okay except for a bit lesser soundstage compared to a hd800 or the audezes (mr. fang angled drivers and angled connectors pls! biggrin.gif).... for me the he500 is a very balanced headphone...

 

...i have to admit..when i got the he500 at first...it wasnt really what i expected for 700euro...but it only really became to shine when i got my new (tung sol 5998) tubes and my new cables (power and headphone)..

 

GUYS and GIRLS....this could be an endgame rig for many of us music listening lovers...but for some (like me) its a starting point to the bleeding wallet and u spending a huge amount of money for a better rig. so be careful for what ur getting in... very_evil_smiley.gif

 

but most important..in the end...its all about personal taste, ur budget and how far u wanna go to get the best ur headphone can deliver u...

i have no idea what you just said. i probably will love the he500 if the weight is not such an issue. I don't know why you didn't get that I no longer have it yet you assume I still have the lyr and want to sell it. 

 

I have the lyr and love it never will sell it. There is nothing wrong with the lyr and it's a worker. I am rocking some telefunken/orange globe/gold lion/matsu****a tubes in there and I prefer my fidelio x1 that I just got over the he500 with some jj e88cc tubes that I had back when I owned the he500.

 

I have decided that planars are not for me, although people make it sound like if you have a lyr then a planar is a must have. Well, I can't stand the way it presents music, I prefer dynamic cans way more, probably because I have a ton of them. 

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Originally Posted by Overwerk View Post

i have no idea what you just said. i probably will love the he500 if the weight is not such an issue. I don't know why you didn't get that I no longer have it yet you assume I still have the lyr and want to sell it. 

 

I have the lyr and love it never will sell it. There is nothing wrong with the lyr and it's a worker. I am rocking some telefunken/orange globe/gold lion/matsu****a tubes in there and I prefer my fidelio x1 that I just got over the he500 with some jj e88cc tubes that I had back when I owned the he500.

 

I have decided that planars are not for me, although people make it sound like if you have a lyr then a planar is a must have. Well, I can't stand the way it presents music, I prefer dynamic cans way more, probably because I have a ton of them. 

 

Never say never wink.gif

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What is it that you dislike about the HE-500?
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All this talk about amps makes me wonder how HE-500 would do with Burson HA-160.

 

I've already been told it drives them well, but it's always good to hear more opinions.

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Originally Posted by Okamoto View Post

All this talk about amps makes me wonder how HE-500 would do with Burson HA-160.

 

I've already been told it drives them well, but it's always good to hear more opinions.

 

I've only heard it with HE-300 before I got HE-500, but might be the most boring and lifeless amp I've ever heard.


Edited by Anda - 6/29/13 at 2:55am
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I dunno, HA160 sounded pretty good with my HE500 when I did a brief audition of the amp. A very warm, musical, dynamic sound imparted on the cans. Synergizes very well with either velour pads or jergpads. Probably not so much with stock pleathers (those need a brighter amp).

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soloist is probably better with he-500's.

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Originally Posted by Overwerk View Post

what match isgood

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apart jokes, my experience with orthos say me that this type of headphones need current

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I just received my new HE-500's yesterday, so they have less than 24 hours on them, but I have to say these are the most enjoyable headphones I've listened to, all things considered.  I previously owned (and sold) LCD-2's (driven at that time by a Trafomatic Head One)--I really liked their sound but could never really like the comfort/fit that they provided (or didn't provide).  I also have the ATH-W3000ANV's which can be sublime (but are so sensitive that I get a bit of hum with most amps I've tried).  I am also trying some Senn HD650's, which I can enjoy (I like a somewhat warm sound).

 

The HE-500's just provide me with a more realistic 'you are there' sound in my setup.  I'm driving them from the headphone out of a Wavelength Audio 45 based SET amp that Gordon Rankin made for me and I'm absolutely loving the sound.  I've got a pair of the Q cable adapters coming from Steve  so that I can use my Q Audio cable soon, so far I'm just using the stock silver cable (I admit the microphonics of the stock cable could drive me nuts).
 

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Looking into different options to speaker tap, I ran into this .

 

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/art-headtap-headphone-tap

 

 

Because of the 1/4" input, the assumption is that the amp must have common ground.  If you have used this before, please share your experience.  Art's website and the spec mention that the box the have some kind of resistor for protection, though not specific.

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Originally Posted by Audioclyde View Post

I just received my new HE-500's yesterday, so they have less than 24 hours on them, but I have to say these are the most enjoyable headphones I've listened to, all things considered.  I previously owned (and sold) LCD-2's (driven at that time by a Trafomatic Head One)--I really liked their sound but could never really like the comfort/fit that they provided (or didn't provide).  I also have the ATH-W3000ANV's which can be sublime (but are so sensitive that I get a bit of hum with most amps I've tried).  I am also trying some Senn HD650's, which I can enjoy (I like a somewhat warm sound).

 

The HE-500's just provide me with a more realistic 'you are there' sound in my setup.  I'm driving them from the headphone out of a Wavelength Audio 45 based SET amp that Gordon Rankin made for me and I'm absolutely loving the sound.  I've got a pair of the Q cable adapters coming from Steve  so that I can use my Q Audio cable soon, so far I'm just using the stock silver cable (I admit the microphonics of the stock cable could drive me nuts).
 


Gratz!  I am having the same experience with the stock cable's microphonics.  I just loop up the main section and have 2 small loops(0.75" dia) for L/R close to the cups.  This seems to help tremendously and I also learn not to move around too much when listening :)

Overall, I enjoy the HE500.  Only on certain instruments, I got to switch back to the Q701.  I prefer the sound/tone/air/edginess of the Q701 for violin.  Just now I was listening to some cellos(2cellos guys) on the HE500 but had to switch back to the Q701.  For cellos, there was too much bass and warmth and smoothness on the HE500 for my preference.  I knew exactly this even before I bought the HE500.


Edited by koiloco - 6/29/13 at 8:46pm
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