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I'm genuinely curious, what makes the he-500 so much better than the likes of the hd600 and dt880?
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

I'm genuinely curious, what makes the he-500 so much better than the likes of the hd600 and dt880?


Might go into details tomorrow, but one thing that is clear to me is this: The dt880 was struggling compared to the HE-500 when speed was necessary.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

I'm genuinely curious, what makes the he-500 so much better than the likes of the hd600 and dt880?

The DT880 is much dryer than the HE500, which is warmer.  

post #5344 of 18029

He500 = speed, blacker background

Hd600 = coherency, realistic timbre

 

The 880 (600 ohm) is weird for me. I really liked Beyer in general, but I much prefer the 990 to the well-received 880.

 

Pick your poison tongue_smile.gif


Edited by khaine1711 - 6/4/13 at 3:50pm
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In my view flagship headphones aren't worth it, each have their flaw I had the opportunity to listen to the he 500, and the hd 800, and last but not least the LCD-3's. With the LCD-3's you get this airy presentation that lacks impact even though the bass is incredibly detailed, the other frequencies however sound rolled off, except for a slight emphasis on the mids. The hd-800 has an extremely amazing sound stage, most of the music seems layered but it makes the mids sound distant. The he-500 I feel have a small narrow sound stage and even though they have great detail and mids the bass isn't as great as the he-400's. What impressed me the most were the mad dogs the mids sounded incredible and you get really good bass and impact not as much as say an he-400 but still pretty good.

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The OP asks if the HD500s are bright or sibilant. The answer is simply No.

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Right, the HE-500 is better because it's planar. Of course!

I've extensively compared the 500 to my hd600, and each has its advantages. They also have downfalls that ancel the while darn thing out.

The problem is that people's money is at stake here. Saying that there's a massive difference, when there's no more than a sound sig change is costing people upwards of $300 extra.
U forget one big important part to take into consideration...
First u cant really compare both phones because they both has different needs ampwise..only amp i know of who drives both perfectly is the 337...so only with an amp who drives both well u can really compare both...and i myself did that....the hd650 is not worse then the he500..BUT..it does has a completely different soundsignature....in my opinion the he500 has the more balanced sound signature and the better bass and especially better mids..but i got a feeling the soundstage was better on the hd650...what the hd650 did well was making the sound intimate..darker, mellower, soft..more forgiving...but as a total package the he500 is the better phone..the more balanced phone..
But i can imagine people who have an amp (normally an otl tube amp or a low power ss amp) who pairs well with a hd650 and not with a he500 say the hd650 is the better phone...

Guys..i would say..as long the phone u have puts a smile on ur face..stick with it..it only will irritate u thinking other phones are better biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post

In my view flagship headphones aren't worth it, each have their flaw I had the opportunity to listen to the he 500, and the hd 800, and last but not least the LCD-3's. With the LCD-3's you get this airy presentation that lacks impact even though the bass is incredibly detailed, the other frequencies however sound rolled off, except for a slight emphasis on the mids. The hd-800 has an extremely amazing sound stage, most of the music seems layered but it makes the mids sound distant. The he-500 I feel have a small narrow sound stage and even though they have great detail and mids the bass isn't as great as the he-400's. What impressed me the most were the mad dogs the mids sounded incredible and you get really good bass and impact not as much as say an he-400 but still pretty good.

I was not impressed with the Mad Dogs at the Austin meet and got to A/B them fairly extensively next to the HE400s.  Everyone hears things differently I guess.  <shrug>

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HE500s were not impressive at all to my ears when I first got them. It sounded cupped and congested with pleather earpads, shrill and dry with the velour earpads. The grill mod helped marginally in opening up the sound. Then I trialed the J$ beyer pads and that was when I first started hearing what these had the potential for; it was still a tad too shrill in the treble though. Then I messed around with a pair of cut-up pleather pads and one thing led to another and now I'm finally content with HE500's performance, but only with jergpads and grill mod.

 

The sound is still not perfect, timbre is still maybe 5% off dead center, soundstage is average, but now everything mostly sounds right. And I really value "sounding right" with headphones, because that is rarely possible. I don't care for massive soundstage or ultimate transients speeds or extension or whatnot.

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Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post

In my view flagship headphones aren't worth it, each have their flaw I had the opportunity to listen to the he 500, and the hd 800, and last but not least the LCD-3's. With the LCD-3's you get this airy presentation that lacks impact even though the bass is incredibly detailed, the other frequencies however sound rolled off, except for a slight emphasis on the mids. The hd-800 has an extremely amazing sound stage, most of the music seems layered but it makes the mids sound distant. The he-500 I feel have a small narrow sound stage and even though they have great detail and mids the bass isn't as great as the he-400's. What impressed me the most were the mad dogs the mids sounded incredible and you get really good bass and impact not as much as say an he-400 but still pretty good.

 

How long did you listen to LCD-3, HD 800 and HE-500 for?

post #5351 of 18029
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Originally Posted by Limniscate View Post

I was not impressed with the Mad Dogs at the Austin meet and got to A/B them fairly extensively next to the HE400s.  Everyone hears things differently I guess.  <shrug>

I am curious as to what version you tried? The ones I tried I believe were the 3.0 version, but you make a good point the hardest thing about this hobby is recommending headphones or doing comparisons when people hear and enjoy different things, you just have to see what works for you.

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Guys..i would say..as long the phone u have puts a smile on ur face..stick with it..

 

This.

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

How long did you listen to LCD-3, HD 800 and HE-500 for?

About 20-30 min each the He-500 probably longer since I had a pair and just wanted to compare the sound of a properly amped one with mine. I listened to the LCD-3's on two different amp pairing and it didn't impress me with either.

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This.

I would say it's not wrong to be curious about how other headphones compare. If a particular headphone could put a smile on the face, maybe another comparable headphone could put an amazed grin on the same face.

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Originally Posted by McKajVah View Post

I just got my he-500 some days ago, and felt that something was wrong. Measured them today. 24,9 ohms on the left and 36,8 ohms on the right. Not good.

 

Think I'll send the shop an e-mail...

 

I'll change these next week, but did some measurements today with a SPL meter just to check.. Put on a 1kHz test tone and got a difference of 2.5db between the drivers. Also switched the cables over just to confirm the amp was not the problem.

 

When I listen to music, center vocals feels like it's 15 degrees to the left side. The measurements confirms this.

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