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post #5326 of 18029
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Right, the HE-500 is better because it's planar. Of course!

I've extensively compared the 500 to my hd600, and each has its advantages. They also have downfalls that ancel the while darn thing out.

The problem is that people's money is at stake here. Saying that there's a massive difference, when there's no more than a sound sig change is costing people upwards of $300 extra.

You realize people can just sell off gear they don't find to their liking right? If they buy used they won't even lose money. And you KNOW there are more idiots out there like me who will love the HE-500/LCD-2, and think it was money well spent. So yeah you're not doing everyone favors, just some people like you I guess.

 

Buying and trying audio gear and then selling stuff you don't like is part of the journey. Nothing wrong with losing a little money here and there. I realize you were dissapointed with your HE-500 experience, but many, including me, have found it quite worthwhile.

 

So I guess what I'm trying to say is you don't need to save people. You're not the Superman of Head-Fi, and people are smart enough to read between the lines, and gather info from multiple sources. No one goes out and buy $700 headphones after reading just one random ass post on Head-Fi. Well, maybe there is an idiot like that out there, but who cares about him.


Edited by M-13 - 6/4/13 at 2:23pm
post #5327 of 18029
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

You realize people can just sell off gear they don't find to their liking right? If they buy used they won't even lose money. And you KNOW there are more idiots out there like me who will love the HE-500/LCD-2, and think it was money well spent. So yeah you're not doing everyone favors, just some people like you I guess.

Buying and trying audio gear and then selling stuff you don't like is part of the journey. Nothing wrong with losing a little money here and there. I realize you were dissapointed with your HE-500 experience, but many, including me, have found it quite worthwhile.

Good luck selling yours for within $50 of what you paid new.

That said, hyperbole does nobody any favors.
post #5328 of 18029

It just comes down to individual priorities.  Is the HE500 way better than the DT880?  Yes, imho.  Is it worth the cost differential?  Probably not, and I only paid $560 for the HE500 NIB, and the DT880 600ohm can be had for $200-$240 in the B/S forum.  I don't even think the HE500 is worth $200 (what I paid) over the HE400.

 

I still ended up keeping the HE500.  ;)

post #5329 of 18029

I was hoping the HE-500 would basically be a HD650 but with slightly more treble and also sub bass below 50hz as the HD650 literally has nothing at all below 50hz.


Edited by nicholars - 6/4/13 at 2:28pm
post #5330 of 18029
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post


Good luck selling yours for within $50 of what you paid new.

That said, hyperbole does nobody any favors.

To you this may be a tragedy. To me, it's all part of the journey. I do buy used when I can, and often I've lost no money, and sometimes very little money, for cans I was very curious about and got to audition in my home for over a month to make up my mind. I think people are smart enough to know a hyperbole when they see it. Words like "destroy" "dominate" "kill" are almost always hyperboles. I guess you think people are really dull and you're the only smart guy on here that must save the day.

post #5331 of 18029

Is it that time of the month M-13 you seem a little irritable.

post #5332 of 18029
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

Right, the HE-500 is better because it's planar. Of course!

I've extensively compared the 500 to my hd600, and each has its advantages. They also have downfalls that ancel the while darn thing out.

The problem is that people's money is at stake here. Saying that there's a massive difference, when there's no more than a sound sig change is costing people upwards of $300 extra.


Not if people are conscious about it being the writers opinion.

post #5333 of 18029
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

Is it that time of the month M-13 you seem a little irritable.

Sorry. I'll go take my chill pill and go buy more tampons. LOL wink.gif

post #5334 of 18029

I tend to agree with M-13. Most people here are smart enough to be able to take into account the differing tastes of many individuals when reading subjective reviews. And let's face it, every review is subjective. It is impossible to compare two objects and say one is better than the other without having some kind of personal preference come into play. It's simply human nature. And even if somebody does come along and decide to purchase a $700 headphone because one person said it "destroys" all other headphones, it is nobody's responsibility here to rescue that individual. If it was, you'd be fighting a losing battle. Every television commercial states that the product it is advertising is the best and nothing else can compare. Are you going to rescue them from that as well? Personally, I do believe the HE-500 is in a different league than the likes of HD650/DT880/K701 and that it is significantly more than a small performance gap. Who are any of you to say that my or anyone else's opinion is incorrect simply because it differs from your own? We all have our own opinions; let others take them for what they are and make their own decisions.

post #5335 of 18029

Yes some Valium and some tampons and you should be good to go. wink.gif

post #5336 of 18029

This is why I always try to compare headphones to other headphones as a reference when asking about sound signature because the terms "bright" or "bassy" are effectively meaningless if they are not relative to something else.

post #5337 of 18029

Best thing to do is find a couple of people that have similar music preference as you, and if they also have a similar taste and preference in how they like their music to be delivered. Ideally this is what you want to do. Makes for a much better reference. 

post #5338 of 18029
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Originally Posted by nicholars View Post

This is why I always try to compare headphones to other headphones as a reference when asking about sound signature because the terms "bright" or "bassy" are effectively meaningless if they are not relative to something else.

 

Even then, you may be able to say headphone A has more bass than headphone B, but the degree to which someone perceives that is still a subjective thing. You might say one has slightly elevated bass while I might say it was way more bass. You can't remove the subjective element from a comparison made by a human being.

post #5339 of 18029
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Originally Posted by Stalker81598 View Post

I tend to agree with M-13. Most people here are smart enough to be able to take into account the differing tastes of many individuals when reading subjective reviews. And let's face it, every review is subjective. It is impossible to compare two objects and say one is better than the other without having some kind of personal preference come into play. It's simply human nature. And even if somebody does come along and decide to purchase a $700 headphone because one person said it "destroys" all other headphones, it is nobody's responsibility here to rescue that individual. If it was, you'd be fighting a losing battle. Every television commercial states that the product it is advertising is the best and nothing else can compare. Are you going to rescue them from that as well? Personally, I do believe the HE-500 is in a different league than the likes of HD650/DT880/K701 and that it is significantly more than a small performance gap. Who are any of you to say that my or anyone else's opinion is incorrect simply because it differs from your own? We all have our own opinions; let others take them for what they are and make their own decisions.

It's funny how our mind plays tricks on us.  When I first received the HE500, I agreed with another poster as to how he couldn't see how anyone could like the HE400s better.  After a few days, I went back and listened to the HE400 again and could see how some people might like it better--specifically, the HE400 creates this odd 3D-effect that the HE500 does not.  I guess the new toy (HE500) wore off a little.  I still think the HE500 is a better headphone, but am more tempered about how much better it is over the HE400.  I would tell most people that it probably isn't worth $200 (what I paid) more than the HE400.  Of course, money is not worth the same to everyone because of income level, etc..   

post #5340 of 18029

For me it was worth those 300$ more. But it wouldn't have been if I only listened to metal and EDM for example...

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