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post #5266 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post

I recently got a chance to listen to the he-500's properly amped, I sold mine locally after I ran them off my avr and they didn't sound all that great, and honestly even with the lyr I found the sound stage to be extremely narrow. Another thing was that even though the mids sound great they aren't as forward or engaging as I would have liked them to be.

I'd say you need LCD 2's...

post #5267 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Stalker81598 View Post

Anyone have both the ef5 and Lyr and can tell me how they compare with HE-500?

Had both the EF5 and Lyr together at one point.

 

Long story short...EF5 + 500 = the only way i could describe it is this combination made my HE-500 sound 'organic' in a very beautiful way

 

Lyr + 500 = very nice pairing...definitely can't go wrong. does everything very nice with a lot of punch.

 

I really like both of them but I had the EF-5 first and wanted to upgrade to Lyr so I let go of my EF-5. 

 

I'm honestly split 50/50 between both. If you're low on funds..might be a better option to opt for the EF-5.

post #5268 of 18025
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The soundstage is what I would describe as "intimate" but the separation and imaging are quite fantastic.

yep this!

post #5269 of 18025

How much smaller is the soundstage of the HE-500 vs. HD800's? Give me a % haha.

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Originally Posted by leadbythemelody View Post

How much smaller is the soundstage of the HE-500 vs. HD800's? Give me a % haha.

If the real natural soundstage is 100%, then HD800s sound like 150% all around, while HE-500s are like 90% side-to-side axis, and 60% depth axis. The fact that the HE500s' drivers are not angled doesn't help with its poor soundstage depth.

post #5271 of 18025

Why didn't they angle the drivers? haha

post #5272 of 18025
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

If the real natural soundstage is 100%, then HD800s sound like 150% all around, while HE-500s are like 90% side-to-side axis, and 60% depth axis. The fact that the HE500s' drivers are not angled doesn't help with its poor soundstage depth.

 

I'd give the HE-500 around 80% - around what you said. I'll agree with you on that.

 

Depth - 60% - for me I'd give it a 30% maybe 35% at best. LCD-2 would be more closer to 50-60%

 

Who knows, maybe HE-600 will be tiltedbiggrin.gif

post #5273 of 18025

i think that he-500 is more 78,5% with velor pads, 74,3% with leather pads and 88,2% with denon pads

post #5274 of 18025

Okay one more thing guys...Planar Magnetic Vs. Tesla Technology. What's the difference?

post #5275 of 18025

Where do you get the denon pads?

post #5276 of 18025
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Originally Posted by alota View Post

i think that he-500 is more 78,5% with velor pads, 74,3% with leather pads and 88,2% with denon pads

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The important thing to take away with these %s are the relative amounts. E.g. low depth compared to width in HE500's soundstage, extremely narrow but deep soundstage orientation with LCD2, low HE500 / LCD2 soundstage sizes in general compared to real life, and larger-than-life soundstage with HD800; all of them due to driver differences (type, angling, distance from ears, pads, damping).

post #5277 of 18025

Okay, that pretty much sums it up haha thanks. darthsmile.gif

post #5278 of 18025
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Originally Posted by leadbythemelody View Post

So I decided to order a Sennheiser HD650 and it was supposed to come today but it didn't. But I'm glad it didn't come because I changed my mind and want to get a HE-500 for a little more money. I read a review today that stated the HE-500's can compete with a $2000 Magnepan 1.7 and the reviewer himself stated that he preferred it over headphones like the Audio Technica ATH-W5000, Denon AH-D7000, Sennheiser HD 800, Grado PS-1000, and Ultrasone Edition 8 (the reviewer was Steve Guttenberg on CNET). What do you guys think?

 

beware of hyperbolic statements regarding audio equipment.  Headphones are convient and I really like the sound some of them can give, but speakers are a class above imho. Also a HE-500 driven by a 100 dollar amp/dac, you might as well get the senn 600 or 650 IMO as it's very pleasant and will cost you less.  I can understand if you plan to upgrade in the future and you want something simple to start out. I dont think i would recommend the HE-500 to someone if they weren't willing to invest in a signal chain to back it up. I mean yeah i could get into detail about what the HE-500 can do compared to other headphones regardless of what it is driven by, but really it doesn't matter. It might feel good to have an expensive headphone but take it from me and many others, sitting on a headphone knowing it is capable of so much more is a really dangerous thing :P

 

People are satisfied with cheaper rigs but it helps to be aware that you're not getting the most out of your headphone with an o2 or magni setup. I didn't even like the asgard with the HE-500 so I don't think there's any way I could recommend the magni. The HE-500 has a very easy signature and can do most things well with any amp, but there's a big bottleneck there with cheaper gear. So unless you're really committed the HE-500 signature or the planar tech, I don't see a whole lot of a point getting a cheaper rig. To each his own though. Just figured I would try to play a little devils advocate here.

post #5279 of 18025

Is the bottleneck effect of a larger scale with the HE-500's versus the HD650's?

post #5280 of 18025

And thank you for your insight, I just saved myself some money. I'm new to this whole thing... do you think the HD650's are a good match with the O2 amps?

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