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post #511 of 18011

I'm with sphinxvc. The HE-500 sound great, but the LCD-2 are better IMO. More speed, impact, transparency and better imaging (but smaller soundstage, which should be addressed by the rev.2).

post #512 of 18011

Don't speak so highly of the LCD-2's. It makes my decision so hard when you do. The LCD-2's and the HE-500 look so good to me. Especially now that the LCD-2 has a revision 2. But the HE-500 is getting new pads! confused_face_2.gif

 

 

I really wish there was a way for me to test them before diving in. I guess I'll just have to keep reading impressions. I still have 1-2 months to decide. popcorn.gif


Edited by Rebel975 - 7/31/11 at 11:24am
post #513 of 18011

How is the comfort on the HE-500 (and LCD-2)? They look so big and heavy. I remember someone commenting his neck hurt after awhile. Can you relax on a nice laid back chair with your head on the headrest without pushing on the headphones?

post #514 of 18011

Owning LCD-2 (r1 and r2) and the HE-500, I would say that for a person that is not used to these headphones, the HE-500 will be perceived to have better comfort. After a while; it doesn't matter to most people, I guess. I can use all these for 10+ hours (no joke) and have noe neck pain. 

 

The HE-500 sounds more intimate than the LCD-2 (r2). Their (HE-500) strength (in my ears) are their vocal / guitar / piano presentation. The LCD-2s sound more articulated though.

 

The difference between r1 and r2 is less than the difference between LCD-2s and HE-500.

 

And a piece of advice at the end: Do not believe the HE-500 are that easy to drive...they are not. Easier than the HE-6; oh yes.


Edited by Loevhagen - 7/31/11 at 12:49pm
post #515 of 18011
Loevhagen- could you compare the LCD-2 rev2's and the HE-500's in regards to soundstage? Accuracy, size, etc. I went to your blog and I notice you have a section on LCD-2 vs HE-500, but unfortunately I only speak/read English. I did a quick Google translate to check it out anyway.
 
 
 
 
I feel like I'm trying to decide between a Ferrari or a Lamborghini without having any car knowledge. It's so hard. lol
post #516 of 18011

Here´s two tracks I have played a lot:

 

"Crying in the Rain - Live" (a-ha)

"9000 days" (from the movie Invictus)

 

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My impression is that the size of the soundstage is quite similar. The HE-500 excels the LCD-2 (r2) when it comes to conveying the natutral sound from a piano. There´s somethimng with the natural deacy the HE-500 does so well when it comes to piano. It is quite fascinating actually.

 

I guess most people would initally (e.g. at a meet) interpret the Audeze being able to portray a larger soundstage due to the LCD-2s ability to articulate and present more reverb in the music. The HE-500 smoothen things out a bit more and may be perceived not to have equal soundstage as the LCD-2 (r2).

 

Ferrari / Lamborhini? Yes. Both will get you there. And in style. :) And so will both the HE-500 and the LCD-2s. The latter is however a tad more articulated. I like that. The HE-500; it deserves more attention, because it is a very good headphone.

 

E.g. Procol Harum's "An Old English Dream on the HE-500 is just L3000.gif , but the LCD-2s offer the Procul Harum a tiny bit more (perceived) space. When all comes down, it is more than soundstage and demosongs. It is about leaning back and get transported into the music. Both headphones will get you there.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Loevhagen - 7/31/11 at 2:38pm
post #517 of 18011

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post


Did the new ear pads come out yet?


Not sure about that.


Edited by sphinxvc - 7/31/11 at 3:42pm
post #518 of 18011

I've been asking in the T1 thread but i'll try here too;

 


I have read only the first 10 orso pages so my apologies on forehand if this has been asked before.

 

Im in the market for a new pair of cans and i want to take a step in the higher end.

My choices are narrowed down to the T1 and HE-500 and possible a higher end Grado. But mostly its between the T1 and the HE-500.

I've read alot, mainly the HE-500 thread and some general reviews.

The music i listen to is mostly metal(trash, death, prog, heavy) some rock(classic and heavy) and blues. I do like experimenting in other genres every now and then though.

 

My current amps are the GS-1 and a LD MKIII. There might be B22 in the future but not anytime soon.

I really like the beyer sound and i'm not familiar with the Hifiman house sound. Also it seems i like cans that are on the bright side, it provides the edge that goes good with rock and metal.

 

My ideas with the DT880, SR325is and T50RP;

I love the DT880 for its neutrality, soundstage and detail but the mids are a bit weak for rock/metal, also a tad more/tighter bass wont hurt.

The SR325is lacks the soundstage and also also some (tighter)bass.

The T50RP has the speed, timing, better bass than above, nice mids but lacks higher extensions/detail and also the soundstage due to being closed.

Between the three i mostly reach for the beyers due to soundstage, clarity, comfort and slighty better bass than the 325.

 

What do you T1/HE-500 owners think?

post #519 of 18011

I personally havent heard the T1, but i have liked the Beyer sound in the past. However i would easily jump to an RS-1 or MS-Pro now after owning the HE-500. They were not engaging enough with Thrash metal, Punk, Deathcore and such. I spent a little amount of time with the LCD-2 and it had pumping bass but didnt pull me in either. If you can listen and compare to any of them it would be preferred. But my choice would be the RS-1 or MS-Pro for your choice in music. Plus your GS-1 would match a higher end Grado/Alessandro.

 

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Originally Posted by Stitch View Post

I've been asking in the T1 thread but i'll try here too;

 


I have read only the first 10 orso pages so my apologies on forehand if this has been asked before.

 

Im in the market for a new pair of cans and i want to take a step in the higher end.

My choices are narrowed down to the T1 and HE-500 and possible a higher end Grado. But mostly its between the T1 and the HE-500.

I've read alot, mainly the HE-500 thread and some general reviews.

The music i listen to is mostly metal(trash, death, prog, heavy) some rock(classic and heavy) and blues. I do like experimenting in other genres every now and then though.

 

My current amps are the GS-1 and a LD MKIII. There might be B22 in the future but not anytime soon.

I really like the beyer sound and i'm not familiar with the Hifiman house sound. Also it seems i like cans that are on the bright side, it provides the edge that goes good with rock and metal.

 

My ideas with the DT880, SR325is and T50RP;

I love the DT880 for its neutrality, soundstage and detail but the mids are a bit weak for rock/metal, also a tad more/tighter bass wont hurt.

The SR325is lacks the soundstage and also also some (tighter)bass.

The T50RP has the speed, timing, better bass than above, nice mids but lacks higher extensions/detail and also the soundstage due to being closed.

Between the three i mostly reach for the beyers due to soundstage, clarity, comfort and slighty better bass than the 325.

 

What do you T1/HE-500 owners think?



 

post #520 of 18011

I feel there are better cans out there for the genres you listen to. Get something that's faster and maybe not as laid back. I'd personally pick the T1s.

post #521 of 18011

I looked at the RS1/GS1000. However if they are remotely like the 325is and the T1 is an upgraded DT880 i am hesitant to go for the grado's.

Is the PRaT of the HE-500 somewhat like that of the T50RP? I really like the speed and timing of those.

post #522 of 18011

The HE-500's have about the same PRAT as Grados, maybe a bit less... but... then I've not heard them with well matched amp yet (just WA6 SEm and Millett MiniMax).  With my amps, they sound a bit like a hybrid of Senns and Grados.  And... they need a more powerful amp than the typical head amp (think V200 or EF5, or Lyr, etc. - 2+ watts / channel with lots of current output).  I doubt the GS-1, or similar amps, will drive them well enough to optimize their sound. 

 

Forget the GS-1000's - they do not have the impact and drive you want, unless you press them to your ears (the stadium pads hold them too far from your ears). 

 

The RS-1's would be my choice, with the Tape Mod on the bowl pads, and well burnt in. They reportedly mate pretty well with the GS-1.

 

If you want lots of speed, PRAT and impact, great bass, mids and highs - get some AD2000's with the Phat Pad mod.  They sound like Grados, with a bigger sound.  And... they're easy to drive.


Edited by Gradofan2 - 8/1/11 at 6:21am
post #523 of 18011

I think HF-2 is the best suited Grado for (prog)metal. It's a little bit less refined the RS1, but it has more body and slam, still the Grado house sound and is still detailed.

 

I'd pick RS1 for jazz, acoustical, live performance, classic rock, but I'd pick HF-2 with metal, prog, faster things.

 

Since this is the HE-500 threat, about the HE-500; I'd prefer them over any Grado with almost anything. But it's way less easy to drive and weighs much much more then a Grado


Edited by Proglover - 8/1/11 at 2:56pm
post #524 of 18011
Thread Starter 

Looks like the new ear pads will be out soon, but not yet. They say the lower bass is a little improved and the mids and higher frequencies are positively effected. 

post #525 of 18011

Is the positive effect for both the 6 and the 500?

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