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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

 

Just as an aside...

 

Do you think the Beyer T1s would compliment the HE500's? I've been thinking of splurging on some of them next.

 

i was in your spot a few months back. i currently have HE-500, T1, HD 800, and LCD-2.

 

i feel like the HE-500 do complement the T1, but they are very similar sounding in some ways. the HE-500 has more midbass, slightly less sub-bass, and is smoother on the treble (with pleathers). with velours, its very similar sounding but the HE-500 is smoother in the treble and mids. that ortho sound. the HE-500 is much more forgiving of poor recordings than the beyers and are really good all rounders. however, ultimately, i feel like the T1 are a better headphone. they are more detailed and have more air and soundstage/imaging, more sub-bass presence, the HE-500 are flatter sounding as well. however, the HE-500 have a slightly better midrange i think, even if its not as detailed or spacious, and the treble is smoother, the bass is punchier. just depends on what you want.

 

their sound signature is similar, yet also different. basically i feel like the HE-500 is a more forgiving version of the T1. both are great all rounders. (i found that with velours its literally a more forgiving sounding T1, the sound is EXTREMELY similar. velours can sound awkward at times, but they're also very smooth, and great for vocals, electronic music, and pop).

 

also, the T1 are much more comfortable than the HE-500.

 

note: i probably would of sold the HE-500 if they weren't so amazing at being forgiving of mainstream music as well as being some of the best headphones for drum and bass, vocal trance, and house music. (they're great, but its hard to justify when you have T1/HD800 as well).

 

 


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 5/1/13 at 2:39pm
post #4637 of 18029
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

i was in your spot a few months back. i currently have HE-500, T1, HD 800, and LCD-2.

 

i feel like the HE-500 do complement the T1, but they are very similar sounding in some ways. the HE-500 has more midbass, slightly less sub-bass, and is smoother on the treble (with pleathers). with velours, its very similar sounding but the HE-500 is smoother in the treble and mids. that ortho sound. the HE-500 is much more forgiving of poor recordings than the beyers and are really good all rounders. however, ultimately, i feel like the T1 are a better headphone. they are more detailed and have more air and soundstage/imaging, more sub-bass presence, the HE-500 are flatter sounding as well. however, the HE-500 have a slightly better midrange i think, even if its not as detailed or spacious, and the treble is smoother, the bass is punchier. just depends on what you want.

 

their sound signature is similar, yet also different. basically i feel like the HE-500 is a more forgiving version of the T1. both are great all rounders. (i found that with velours its literally a more forgiving sounding T1, the sound is EXTREMELY similar. velours can sound awkward at times, but they're also very smooth, and great for vocals, electronic music, and pop).

 

also, the T1 are much more comfortable than the HE-500.

 

note: i probably would of sold the HE-500 if they weren't so amazing at being forgiving of mainstream music as well as being some of the best headphones for drum and bass, vocal trance, and house music. (they're great, but its hard to justify when you have T1/HD800 as well).

 

 

Sometimes I feel as though HE500s are TOO smooth in the treble, enough that it loses a bit of the micro-details that more treble-aggressive cans like HE6 / HD800 / T1 tend to reveal in spades.

post #4638 of 18029
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Sometimes I feel as though HE500s are TOO smooth in the treble, enough that it loses a bit of the micro-details that more treble-aggressive cans like HE6 / HD800 / T1 tend to reveal in spades.


well they are twice the price too... if they were not more detailed then you have been too rich for your own good:P

post #4639 of 18029

So I am pretty sure I am going to own these one day with the gizmodo promo what is the cheapest amp that can provide sufficient power for these at the moment I only have an e17 I was thinking emotiva with speakers taps?

post #4640 of 18029
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Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post

So I am pretty sure I am going to own these one day with the gizmodo promo what is the cheapest amp that can provide sufficient power for these at the moment I only have an e17 I was thinking emotiva with speakers taps?

That's probably your best bet.

post #4641 of 18029

Can anyone tell me how this song sounds on their he-500? Also I know these excel in vocals but do they sound as good as the he-400 in terms of electronica?

 

 

post #4642 of 18029
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Can anyone tell me how this song sounds on their he-500? Also I know these excel in vocals but do they sound as good as the he-400 in terms of electronica?




I doubt they would cos the he 400s bass is cleaner and more detailed. Its much more present and impactful and overall better in my opinion. The he 500's bass is wooly and lacks impact.
post #4643 of 18029
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I doubt they would cos the he 400s bass is cleaner and more detailed. Its much more present and impactful and overall better in my opinion. The he 500's bass is wooly and lacks impact.

I still enjoy my HE500s more than HE400 on electronica though, because the HE500 midrange and ultra-smooth treble is just too good to pass up. For genres that more strictly focus on bass (e.g. house music) HE400s are definitely better.

 

But yeah, with vocal-heavy music like Adele, HE500 is mesmerizing (you can literally swim in the vocals, lose track of reality), which is a far cry from HE400's polite slightly distant interpretation of vocals.


Edited by jerg - 5/1/13 at 9:54pm
post #4644 of 18029
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I still enjoy my HE500s more than HE400 on electronica though, because the HE500 midrange and ultra-smooth treble is just too good to pass up. For genres that more strictly focus on bass (e.g. house music) HE400s are definitely better.

 

But yeah, with vocal-heavy music like Adele, HE500 is mesmerizing (you can literally swim in the vocals, lose track of reality), which is a far cry from HE400's polite slightly distant interpretation of vocals.

Yeah, I'd definitely agree with you in regards to vocals. The HE 500's are really good for that. I find though that the LCD 2's combine the best of both - the HE 400's bass & the HE 500's midrange.

post #4645 of 18029
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

I still enjoy my HE500s more than HE400 on electronica though, because the HE500 midrange and ultra-smooth treble is just too good to pass up. For genres that more strictly focus on bass (e.g. house music) HE400s are definitely better.

 

But yeah, with vocal-heavy music like Adele, HE500 is mesmerizing (you can literally swim in the vocals, lose track of reality), which is a far cry from HE400's polite slightly distant interpretation of vocals.


Just curious have you tried amping the 500's from the e17 or what do you use?

post #4646 of 18029
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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

Yeah, I'd definitely agree with you in regards to vocals. The HE 500's are really good for that. I find though that the LCD 2's combine the best of both - the HE 400's bass & the HE 500's midrange.


With recommendations like these ^  I see why people never stop upgrading lol.

post #4647 of 18029
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Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post


Just curious have you tried amping the 500's from the e17 or what do you use?

Currently I'm temporarily amping the 500s from the E17 actually, until I move in a couple of months (hopefully) and can settle with larger desktop amps. Pretty good, I get maybe 90% of HE500's potential detail and transparency, and about 75% of its potential dynamics and staging capabilities, compared to much better amps I've tried the HE500s with.

 

 

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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

Yeah, I'd definitely agree with you in regards to vocals. The HE 500's are really good for that. I find though that the LCD 2's combine the best of both - the HE 400's bass & the HE 500's midrange.

 

LCD2.2s lose out on treble vs HE500 though, by a fair bit. The two are trade-offs IMO. It comes down to whether or not the buyer prioritizes treble vs bass (although both are great in both, of course, just relatively they are set apart).

post #4648 of 18029
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Currently I'm temporarily amping the 500s from the E17 actually, until I move in a couple of months (hopefully) and can settle with larger desktop amps. Pretty good, I get maybe 90% of HE500's potential detail and transparency, and about 75% of its potential dynamics and staging capabilities, compared to much better amps I've tried the HE500s with.

 

 

 

LCD2.2s lose out on treble vs HE500 though, by a fair bit. The two are trade-offs IMO. It comes down to whether or not the buyer prioritizes treble vs bass (although both are great in both, of course, just relatively they are set apart).

Yeah, if the LCD's had the HE 500's treble it'd be the perfect headphone for me.

post #4649 of 18029
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Currently I'm temporarily amping the 500s from the E17 actually, until I move in a couple of months (hopefully) and can settle with larger desktop amps. Pretty good, I get maybe 90% of HE500's potential detail and transparency, and about 75% of its potential dynamics and staging capabilities, compared to much better amps I've tried the HE500s with.

 

Great! I will probably never upgrade my amp and just stay with the e17,  I am going to be extremely happy when I finally get my he-500 I just hope that the mids aren't too smooth and laid back I had that problem with the hd 650 and he-400.


Edited by Spiderman - 5/1/13 at 10:17pm
post #4650 of 18029
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Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post

Great! I will probably never upgrade my amp and just stay with the e17,  I am going to be extremely happy when I finally get my he-500 I just hope that the mids aren't too smooth and laid back I had that problem with the hd 650 and he-400.

I'd have to disagree with Jerg and recommend you get something mroe powerful than the E17. My Meier Quickstep with 15v PSU couldn't drive the HE 500's properly. When I heard them on my NFB 10 they came to life.

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