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post #451 of 18011
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Listening with the RSA 71B and getting excellent results. I will leave you guys to your rigid tubes. 

 

Listening to, Ken Peplowski, "Steppin' With Peps" on Concord Jazz. 

 

Just tried the 500's out of the headphone section of the iRiver H140. Surprisingly good results with the caveat that it won't play real loud. 


Edited by jamato8 - 7/9/11 at 3:46pm
post #452 of 18011
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My tubes are also pretty rigid, but I never considered that to be a shortcoming!!!      etysmile.gif



Sorry, I meant to use the word "cable". redface.gif

post #453 of 18011
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Today on a "wild goose chase" I decided to try the "stock" cable that ships with the HE-500. So I removed the copper HE-6 balanced cable and replaced it with the single ended black sheathed cable. I will for the sake of consistency burn-in the cable for 100 hours before putting down my final thoughts. For now I can say that straight out of the box the "stock cable does not suck"! The overall sound remains the same, there is a slight loss in power and that I had to slightly increase the volume but it was very minimal and this may disappear with "burn-in". I also find there is a slight loss in transparency and the music is not as engaging nor as musical. BTW, I was listening to Maysa, "A Woman In Love" using a Meridian 506 as a transport with a Monarchy Audio NM24 via its line stage. I also used the Meridian and the Monarchy Audio to feed a Singlepower MPX3 SE Slam sporting a trio of 6SN7 GTB tubes.

 

The one thing I can honestly say about the stock cable is that although it looks and feels very nice it SUCKS major time in HOW RIGID IT IS. If my search is correct the cable a Canare 4S6 speaker cable has good specs ( http://www.canare.com/ProductItemDisplay.aspx?productItemID=63 ). BTW, one thing I like is the split from left to right channel is a long way from the can and that due to the sheathing it should be a long lasting cable resisting daily abuse well. More to come in a few days.

 

Revised on July 10th at 9:00am: Changed the word "tube" for "cable".



Normally I do not quote myself but it helps to explain the contents below. Anyways after 3.5 days I chose to return to the HE-6 cables over the stock HE-500 cables. I find the HE-500 cables to be way to rigid to enjoy the headphone plus I felt the sound had deteriorated. Sure enough once I put the HE-6 cables I find a higher level of clarity/detail in the presentation of the music. It is easier to identify the instruments location and the treble extension is improved. Currently listening to Yellowstone by Mannheim Steamroller.

post #454 of 18011
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Normally I do not quote myself but it helps to explain the contents below. Anyways after 3.5 days I chose to return to the HE-6 cables over the stock HE-500 cables. I find the HE-500 cables to be way to rigid to enjoy the headphone plus I felt the sound had deteriorated. Sure enough once I put the HE-6 cables I find a higher level of clarity/detail in the presentation of the music. It is easier to identify the instruments location and the treble extension is improved. Currently listening to Yellowstone by Mannheim Steamroller.



interesting..

 

I've bought HE-500. only have stock cable and comparing to T1 as such. Have to say HE-500 wins at most points, but I'm now interested in trying a HE-6 or aftermarket cable.

 

By the way, am I the only one irritated with those screws that cable has to adjust them?

 

post #455 of 18011

I have tried both and prefer the HE-6 also... the sound seems to come alive! :D

 

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Normally I do not quote myself but it helps to explain the contents below. Anyways after 3.5 days I chose to return to the HE-6 cables over the stock HE-500 cables. I find the HE-500 cables to be way to rigid to enjoy the headphone plus I felt the sound had deteriorated. Sure enough once I put the HE-6 cables I find a higher level of clarity/detail in the presentation of the music. It is easier to identify the instruments location and the treble extension is improved. Currently listening to Yellowstone by Mannheim Steamroller.



 


Edited by Townyj - 7/12/11 at 5:05pm
post #456 of 18011
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I have tried both and prefer the HE-6 also... the sound seems to come alive! :D

 



 


I'd be curious to hear a silver cable on the 500s.
post #457 of 18011
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I'd be curious to hear a silver cable on the 500s.


I thought about rewiring my 6 with 26awg braided 99.997% pure solid core silver cable. Homegrown Audio sells them. But silver is stiffer than the 6's copper cable. And also much more expensive now than last year. A 4 strand 26awg silver cable costs 20USD/ft.

post #458 of 18011
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By the way, am I the only one irritated with those screws that cable has to adjust them?

 

Me too man, they're annoying. Wish it would just click on.

 

post #459 of 18011
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I thought about rewiring my 6 with 26awg braided 99.997% pure solid core silver cable. Homegrown Audio sells them. But silver is stiffer than the 6's copper cable. And also much more expensive now than last year. A 4 strand 26awg silver cable costs 20USD/ft.

That is a silly price to charge. Way too much. Yes silver has gone way up but a strand of 26 gauge weighs little. I can get 1 oz of 99.9995 for around 35 dollars (I used to get it for 8). That is a lot of 26 gauge. 

 

post #460 of 18011

Like many here, I'm enjoying the delights of the HE500 but finding that I'm "fighting" with the thick headphone cable. Have recently ordered the Double Helix Molecule cable which I hope will not only solve the cable curl/flex issue, but also add some subtle improvements to an already nice sounding pair of cans.

 

Had previously been burning the HE500 in with my custom MAD Ear + purist amp with great effect but recently added a Schiit Lyr to the collection so I'm splitting the burn in duties between the 2 amps.

 

Lovin' it !

 

 


Edited by LoweArt - 7/14/11 at 2:47am
post #461 of 18011

This thread has a lot of interesting comments by members whose opinions I have learned to respect over the past few years.

 

That said, I seem to be the only one who feels that the HE-500 sound quality is darkly veiled, not true-to-timbre, and quite muddled during complex orchestral passages, especially on the decays.

 

Like several others in this thread, I was signed up on the loaner program, but after waiting for a pair to show up for the Western US, I just decided to buy my own. It has been running in for about 2 wks now. Luckily, I did not receive an imbalanced headphone set.

 

To my ears, the sound is indeed similar to the sound of the Senn HD600 or HD800, as has been said here repeatedly --- I find both of those dark, shaded to the lower harmonics, lacking in presence. I recently sold my HD800, and I'm beginning to wonder whether that fate awaits my new HE-500, too.

 

Peter at DHC says that my new solid core silver cable will be in the mail by Tuesday, so I am waiting.  

 

 

post #462 of 18011
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This thread has a lot of interesting comments by members whose opinions I have learned to respect over the past few years.

 

That said, I seem to be the only one who feels that the HE-500 sound quality is darkly veiled, not true-to-timbre, and quite muddled during complex orchestral passages, especially on the decays.

 

Like several others in this thread, I was signed up on the loaner program, but after waiting for a pair to show up for the Western US, I just decided to buy my own. It has been running in for about 2 wks now. Luckily, I did not receive an imbalanced headphone set.

 

To my ears, the sound is indeed similar to the sound of the Senn HD600 or HD800, as has been said here repeatedly --- I find both of those dark, shaded to the lower harmonics, lacking in presence. I recently sold my HD800, and I'm beginning to wonder whether that fate awaits my new HE-500, too.

 

Peter at DHC says that my new solid core silver cable will be in the mail by Tuesday, so I am waiting.  

 

 


I await your comments. That should peel back some of that veil. I've been using the HEs since the new year and I do now notice a slight darkness. It allows you to put the juice to them, which pushes that veil out of the way.
post #463 of 18011
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Originally Posted by budx3385 View Post

This thread has a lot of interesting comments by members whose opinions I have learned to respect over the past few years.

 

That said, I seem to be the only one who feels that the HE-500 sound quality is darkly veiled, not true-to-timbre, and quite muddled during complex orchestral passages, especially on the decays.

 

Like several others in this thread, I was signed up on the loaner program, but after waiting for a pair to show up for the Western US, I just decided to buy my own. It has been running in for about 2 wks now. Luckily, I did not receive an imbalanced headphone set.

 

To my ears, the sound is indeed similar to the sound of the Senn HD600 or HD800, as has been said here repeatedly --- I find both of those dark, shaded to the lower harmonics, lacking in presence. I recently sold my HD800, and I'm beginning to wonder whether that fate awaits my new HE-500, too.

 

Peter at DHC says that my new solid core silver cable will be in the mail by Tuesday, so I am waiting.  


Despite their slightly improved efficiency over the older HE-5 and HE-5 LE, the HE-500 still really perform best with a stout amp, like my ZDT or the EF5.  I seem to recall the DNA Sonett isn't the most powerful amp out there, and like my maxed WA6 it might not be the best match for the HE-500.  However, in my case my WA6 makes the HE-500 sound slightly bright, not dark.  Regardless, your description of "darkly veiled, not true-to-timbre, and quite muddled during complex orchestral passages" is NOTHING like what I hear, not even on an underpowered amp.  It could still somehow be poor synergy with your current gear.

 

post #464 of 18011
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Originally Posted by budx3385 View Post

This thread has a lot of interesting comments by members whose opinions I have learned to respect over the past few years.

 

That said, I seem to be the only one who feels that the HE-500 sound quality is darkly veiled, not true-to-timbre, and quite muddled during complex orchestral passages, especially on the decays.

 

Like several others in this thread, I was signed up on the loaner program, but after waiting for a pair to show up for the Western US, I just decided to buy my own. It has been running in for about 2 wks now. Luckily, I did not receive an imbalanced headphone set.

 

To my ears, the sound is indeed similar to the sound of the Senn HD600 or HD800, as has been said here repeatedly --- I find both of those dark, shaded to the lower harmonics, lacking in presence. I recently sold my HD800, and I'm beginning to wonder whether that fate awaits my new HE-500, too.

 

Peter at DHC says that my new solid core silver cable will be in the mail by Tuesday, so I am waiting.  

 

 

You find the HD800 DARK? How is that even possible?

 

The HE500 does not have any sort of veil, nor is it muddled.

 

What you've said about the HE500 and HD800 doesn't at all match my or many others' impressions. Seems like you may have poor synergy in your setup.
 

 


Edited by Alghazanth - 7/16/11 at 12:18am
post #465 of 18011

You´re not alone. I think that as well. However, having said that, I did not find the HD800 "dark" as you say. On the other hand, I didn´t find the HD800 "bright" as others have said. The HD800 was pretty neutral to me.

 

Regardig the HE.500, I´m in a bit of a fight with my own mind on these. They sounds less articulatet and detailed compared to the LCD-2. I find the HE-500 pretty appealing though...

 

However, my impression is that the HE-500 is more picky about the amp / source you use with them. More picky than the LCD-2.

 

I´ll keep my HE-500 (I think p.t) in order to find the right monster amp to them. They need power. Lots of it.
 

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That said, I seem to be the only one who feels that the HE-500 sound quality is darkly veiled, not true-to-timbre, 

 

 


Edited by Loevhagen - 7/16/11 at 7:07am
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