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post #4486 of 18011
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Well this time I'll be powering them through an Emotiva Mini-X. Always wanted to try speaker taps, but couldn't find anything that was "suitable"

 

I looked at a lot of vintage Marantz, etc.

 

I'll also be getting the Concero as the Dac, and hopefully I can call it my "end game" until the HE-600 comes out, or I cave and buy the HE-6.

 

As for why I sold them. It was all about upgradetitus, and other hobbies got in the way of funding of course. (Watches, DSLRs, gaming laptops, strippers, etc)

 

Just remembered... I did have problems with the build quality the first 2 times around. Back then the HE-500 was kind of different and so were the pads, no pleather and the velours were softer but made of uneven material. Then the velours were harder and made of rough material, before the current version we have now (I think). I did finally get a version I liked almost a year later and kept them almost a year, which was the last time I owned them.

 

Vintage stuff, I think the market is pretty inflated by collector so it'll be pretty hard to strike a good deal on once-TOTL receiver. Last week I saw a Pioneer SX 1980 pops up on ebay and disappear after 5 mins, and the starting price is somewhere north of 700 bucks rolleyes.gif. I've pretty much given up on owning one, despite how pretty they look :<.

 

The Concero is pretty good, I were quite impressed by the performance relative to its size (and no separate PSU too) =p.

 

Considering the demand of Head-fiers, I think Hifiman next headphone will be a revised/improved HE Jade (hopefully same price as the old Jade though) instead of a He-7/He-600.


Edited by khaine1711 - 4/17/13 at 6:34pm
post #4487 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Anda View Post

 

...or one alternative to rule them all!

 


M-13, you have 3 options:

1. O2 which is able to power ALL headphones.
2. Schiit Modi which is WAY better than the O2.
3. LaFigaro 337 with the RIGHT tubes.

 

O2 is pretty decent sounding with HE-500. Completely garbage with LCD-2 though....seriously.

 

Although O2 with IEM and D2000 is great. No floor noise, gotta love that.


Edited by Zoom25 - 4/17/13 at 7:24pm
post #4488 of 18011

Also people thinking of getting a speaker amp...do it. It's the smarter decision. You can use it with both speakers and headphones. So even if for some reason you don't like it with headphone, you can always use them speakers. That's one of the main reasons why I decided to pull the trigger on the Emotiva. Pairs very well with my efficient tower speakers. Decent sounding with LCD-2 and HE-500.

 

Also besides Emotiva, Marantz makes some good amps with around same power. You should be able to find a 20-50W in Marantz from either vintage or modern amps.


Edited by Zoom25 - 4/17/13 at 7:37pm
post #4489 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

O2 is pretty decent sounding with HE-500. Completely garbage with LCD-2 though....seriously.

 

Although O2 with IEM and D2000 is great. No floor noise, gotta love that.

Why do you think the O2 is garbage with the LCD's?

post #4490 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

Also people thinking of getting a speaker amp...do it. It's the smarter decision. You can use it with both speakers and headphones. So even if for some reason you don't like it with headphone, you can always use them speakers. That's one of the main reasons why I decided to pull the trigger on the Emotiva. Pairs very well with my efficient tower speakers. Decent sounding with LCD-2 and HE-500.

How is the noise floor with the HE-500 and LCD-2?

post #4491 of 18011
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

How is the noise floor with the HE-500 and LCD-2?

 

It's dead silent with both. It's the only amp that's been dead silent with every headphones and earphones. No hum/hiss whatsoever.

post #4492 of 18011
Nevermind... must have miss read it. Sorry.

Edited by M-13 - 4/17/13 at 7:44pm
post #4493 of 18011
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Originally Posted by dryvadeum View Post

Why do you think the O2 is garbage with the LCD's?

 

Pretty much non-existant bass. It sounds slow and lacking PRAT. No rumble whatsoever, minimal slam. The vocals are thin. Also quite dark sounding, probably because they aren't being driver properly.

 

I really wanted the combo to work, but it was embarrassing. 

 

I was surprised because the HE-500 on the other hand with similar power requirement, does quite good with O2.

 

I can see how with HE-500 some people debate the performance of O2 and people just end up saying "Oh, it's a preference thing"....Not to get into that again, all I'll say is that I can at least understand what they are talking about because the HE-500 does somewhat good.

 

 

The LCD-2 was 3/10 of what it can do off Emotiva. It's not even a preference thing with O2 like with HE-500, because it's poor in technicalities for all regions. Also, I hated the sound from day 1 of that combo. Also tried both gains and still overall quite bad pairing.

post #4494 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Pretty much non-existant bass. It sounds slow and lacking PRAT. No rumble whatsoever, minimal slam. The vocals are thin. Also quite dark sounding, probably because they aren't being driver properly.

 

I really wanted the combo to work, but it was embarrassing. 

 

I was surprised because the HE-500 on the other hand with similar power requirement, does quite good with O2.

 

I can see how with HE-500 some people debate the performance of O2 and people just end up saying "Oh, it's a preference thing"....Not to get into that again, all I'll say is that I can at least understand what they are talking about because the HE-500 does somewhat good.

 

 

The LCD-2 was 3/10 of what it can do off Emotiva. It's not even a preference thing with O2 like with HE-500, because it's poor in technicalities for all regions. Also, I hated the sound from day 1 of that combo. Also tried both gains and still overall quite bad pairing.

Fair enough. I hope my Quickstep fares better than the O2 lol.

post #4495 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Pretty much non-existant bass. It sounds slow and lacking PRAT. No rumble whatsoever, minimal slam. The vocals are thin. Also quite dark sounding, probably because they aren't being driver properly.

 

I really wanted the combo to work, but it was embarrassing. 

 

I was surprised because the HE-500 on the other hand with similar power requirement, does quite good with O2.

 

I can see how with HE-500 some people debate the performance of O2 and people just end up saying "Oh, it's a preference thing"....Not to get into that again, all I'll say is that I can at least understand what they are talking about because the HE-500 does somewhat good.

 

 

The LCD-2 was 3/10 of what it can do off Emotiva. It's not even a preference thing with O2 like with HE-500, because it's poor in technicalities for all regions. Also, I hated the sound from day 1 of that combo. Also tried both gains and still overall quite bad pairing.

Maybe underpowering is the problem but an amp is not supposed to do anything other make your headphones louder

post #4496 of 18011
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

All in that thread.  It's a lot of info in there..

Just found your awesome review on page 17. Wow, great write up man. Looks like the Emotiva is a no brainer.

post #4497 of 18011

I was trying to be funny. Made some small mistakes and forgot the smiley rolleyes.gif

 

 

On a serious note:

 

If HE-500 is your only headphone, get a suitable speaker amp (price, power, soundsignature etc.). Use whatever you save on a good source.

If you have several headphones, I'm not so sure.

post #4498 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Anda View Post

I was trying to be funny. Made some small mistakes and forgot the smiley rolleyes.gif

 

 

On a serious note:

 

If HE-500 is your only headphone, get a suitable speaker amp (price, power, soundsignature etc.). Use whatever you save on a good source.

If you have several headphones, I'm not so sure.

 

Ahhh yes. I wrote that back last night when I was really tired and failed to see the humour side. Looking back now, hahahahaha beerchug.gif

 

I agree, one amp to rule them all!wink.gif

post #4499 of 18011

Yeah i'm really looking to upgrade my source in the future but my money situation probably won't allow it anytime soon.  it's a little crazy how high the he-500 can scale.

post #4500 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post

Yeah i'm really looking to upgrade my source in the future but my money situation probably won't allow it anytime soon.  it's a little crazy how high the he-500 can scale.

 

Looking to do the same in the future. Only reason I'm not selling/upgrading my HE-500s.

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