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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

I couldn't disagree more.

 

The HE-6 does everything better by a wide margin when compared to the HE-500.  Yes, of course proper amplification is required.  When you have the right amp.  The HE-6 scales higher than any other headphone I've heard.  With each of the TOTL headphones winning in certain things over the HE-6 like....  HD800 for sound stage, LCD-3 for Bass, 009 for clarity.  But the HE-6 does all these things pretty darn good as a whole.  a la the "GENER MASTER"

 

Heck the HE-5LE and HE-4 may be more balanced than the HE-500.

 

The HE-6 is the true Flagship no doubt..


he was just talking about the inefficiency part being a headache making it not the flagship. I have to agree that the power they need makes them pretty much "special needs"  and it is a definite turn-off. I have only heard he-6 once and i could determine that it was about 10-15% better than he500 in almost everything which is a big difference when you consider high end gear.

post #4442 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

I always wanted to try the HE-4. I read that it is more aggressive, brighter sounding that HE-500 and I think I would definitely like that kind of sound. Not that HE-500 is technically lacking in any way, but I do find them a little too soft and boring sounding for my tastes at times.


Technically the HE-4 is just step behind HE-500 IMO. It isn't as immersive and not so 'complete'. The sound stage isn't as good, though it's not far behind. Also, the treble is a bit more grainy, but still better than the HE-400.

post #4443 of 18079
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Originally Posted by h4mm3r 0f th0r View Post


he was just talking about the inefficiency part being a headache making it not the flagship. I have to agree that the power they need makes them pretty much "special needs"  and it is a definite turn-off. I have only heard he-6 once and i could determine that it was about 10-15% better than he500 in almost everything which is a big difference when you consider high end gear.

 

Flagships are not judged by inefficiencies.  Anyway the maker of the product determines this, not us.  AFAIK HiFiMan has named the HE-6 as their flagship.  Who are we to sya it's not.

post #4444 of 18079
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post


Technically the HE-4 is just step behind HE-500 IMO. It isn't as immersive and not so 'complete'. The sound stage isn't as good, though it's not far behind. Also, the treble is a bit more grainy, but still better than the HE-400.

 

Yes - the HE-500 does have smooth treble.

post #4445 of 18079

I don't like the idea that the HE-6/500 used to almost cost the same.

post #4446 of 18079
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post


Technically the HE-4 is just step behind HE-500 IMO. It isn't as immersive and not so 'complete'. The sound stage isn't as good, though it's not far behind. Also, the treble is a bit more grainy, but still better than the HE-400.

 

I'd actually love more comparisons of the HE-4 versus the HE-500. The 500's sounded really nice for the little time I had them on at a meet, but the HE-4 is hardly spoken of, and I like the prospect of a U-shaped, more exciting/lively hifiman headphone, which sounds like it would suit me better than the more laid-back HE-500 as a metalhead/rocker.

post #4447 of 18079

When I think HE-4, I think refined grado or something like that. Not as aggresive treble, nor as aggresive sound overall, but still a little in your face. But I only heard the HE-4 for a short time. The bass is not as impressive as the HE-400/500.

post #4448 of 18079
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Originally Posted by vaed View Post

 

I'd actually love more comparisons of the HE-4 versus the HE-500. The 500's sounded really nice for the little time I had them on at a meet, but the HE-4 is hardly spoken of, and I like the prospect of a U-shaped, more exciting/lively hifiman headphone, which sounds like it would suit me better than the more laid-back HE-500 as a metalhead/rocker.

Metalhead checking in!

 

I'm curious about the He-5. They're pretty much forgotten, and were said to be the most aggressive of the Hifimans - to the point that they had to tune it down to what we called the 5LE. That and the prototyped leather-cup He-6

post #4449 of 18079
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

When I think HE-4, I think refined grado or something like that. Not as aggresive treble, nor as aggresive sound overall, but still a little in your face. But I only heard the HE-4 for a short time. The bass is not as impressive as the HE-400/500.

 

Though clearly U-shaped, the bass of the 4s is more linear than the 400s/500s. I also has more sub-bass impact (kick or slam, if you will) than the x00s but less presence (no mid-bass bump). They need loads of power to truly awake though...

 

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Originally Posted by vaed View Post

 

I'd actually love more comparisons of the HE-4 versus the HE-500. The 500's sounded really nice for the little time I had them on at a meet, but the HE-4 is hardly spoken of, and I like the prospect of a U-shaped, more exciting/lively hifiman headphone, which sounds like it would suit me better than the more laid-back HE-500 as a metalhead/rocker.

 

The HE-4 is what the doctor ordered!

They are my go to headphones for metal and hard rock.

 

If you want something halfway, that is more energetic than the 500s but with a similar mid-range (less bloom/lushness, more focus) and, overall, a more balanced sound: get the 5LE.

The only """complain""" I could formulate is the bass which has less presence than either the 4s and the 500s. They may well have the most linear bass of the bunch, though.

post #4450 of 18079
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Best bang for the buck - No doubt..biggrin.gif  On second thought,  The HE-5LE and the HE-4 can be considerd that as well.

 

Especially when one buys them from you cool.gif

post #4451 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

 

Especially when one buys them from you cool.gif

 

Ha ha ha.....  Man you shoulda got the 500s.  Gone.  Only the 6s remain..

post #4452 of 18079
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

 

Though clearly U-shaped, the bass of the 4s is more linear than the 400s/500s. I also has more sub-bass impact (kick or slam, if you will) than the x00s but less presence (no mid-bass bump). They need loads of power to truly awake though...

 

 

I might tend to think it is my amp then, I had both my HE-500 and the HE-4 plugged in at the same time, my amp can deliver approx. a bit more than 1 watt.. I had the volume at around 2-3 o'clock. That combined with less presence and velour pads on the HE-4 while modded pleathers on the 500, the bass of the HE-4 seemed a bit hollow.

post #4453 of 18079
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

Ha ha ha.....  Man you shoulda got the 500s.  Gone.  Only the 6s remain..

 

I saw that today...

I had a pang when I saw that, honestly :/. 

 

The NFB-27 + SA-31 + 5LE is the best setup I've heard/owned so far. I already spent too much money on my DAC experiment and I don't want to investigate further due to a change of headphones :D

post #4454 of 18079
For the he-4, think my asgard would be able to hold me over until I get something more powerful, like a Lyr?
The conundrum lies there; the asgard would be fine for the he-500's, but is have to step up the amp game for the he-4. Properly amp'd, are the he-4's as refined/technically proficient as the 500's? The difference in price between selling my A2 + buying the Lyr/he-4 (maybe even the Ed-5 combo. How does this amp fare) and straight buying an he-500 isn't too big.
post #4455 of 18079

Does anyone know where I can source cables for the HE400/500 in Australia? I notice that for newbies like me, the HE500 cables have a nasty tendency to twist when connecting the cables.

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