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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Hmmm....maybe. I still think the bar can be higher and in fact should be higher. Let's see what good stuff comes out in the next couple of years. bigsmile_face.gif More planars and affordable electrostats is what I am hoping for. Along with radiator style driver headphones similar to HD800 at a cheaper price...also I realize that might be something like HD700, but perhaps from other brands or other models at cheaper prices.

Affordable stats does exist already. The 407+323s is better than most dynamic/planar combinations at the same price point. And don't forget the Koss 950/older lambdas

 

The only downsize is that Stax leaks sound way too much to be called headphone - and you could get some nearfield speaker instead tongue_smile.gif

post #4412 of 18028
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Originally Posted by GREQ View Post

Just got my HE-500 today.
I'm still in the first hour of listening, but I feel like I'm listening to music for the first time in my life, and not a headphone.

This might be 'game over' for me, but I honestly don't care. I honestly didn't think headphones could ever be this engaging and emotive. 

 

I quite extensively auditioned other high end headphones, but bought these based on a audition that lasted less than half a minute - because it was enough for me to make a decision.

 

No regrets.

I have had mine for a few weeks now and feel the same as you. I don't know if you believe in the break in period theory but they sound even better now than at first. I have them connected to a Bellari amp, I like the combo. They seemed a little heavy at first but that is no longer an issue. No regrets here either. 

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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Affordable stats does exist already. The 407+323s is better than most dynamic/planar combinations at the same price point.

How does this combo compare to a well driven HE-500?

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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Affordable stats does exist already. The 407+323s is better than most dynamic/planar combinations at the same price point. And don't forget the Koss 950/older lambdas

 

The only downsize is that Stax leaks sound way too much to be called headphone - and you could get some nearfield speaker instead tongue_smile.gif

 

I was thinking more along the lines of SR-007 performance for cheaper in the $1000 range. Wishful thinking I guess biggrin.gif

 

I have some good nearfields but at university with roommates it's hard to even listen to nearfields with low volume without the sound going through the walls, especially at night time. That's one of the reasons why I decided to get some decent headphones due to the heavy amount of listening. When I come back at home, the Audeze and Hifiman collect dust. 


Edited by Zoom25 - 4/16/13 at 5:20pm
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

How does this combo compare to a well driven HE-500?

 

I would also like to know this.

post #4416 of 18028
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

How does this combo compare to a well driven HE-500?

Technicalities wise I'd say it's better than the 500. The 500 (and the 6/lcd2/lcd3, even the hd800) will always have better bass impact though. On the other hands, Staxes are ethereal and blazingly fast (does not matter much unless you listen to thrash/death metal). The imaging, while still behind top dynamic/ortho, is better than the 500. 

 

I have the 507+ 323s and it's dangerously close to my He-6. While my He-6 is the king of metal/rock; I gotta hand the piano award to the Stax . Thankfully, the two compliments each other quite well and I don't have to make a choice between them. I also had the 407 and he-500, but then I got hit by upgrade-titus tongue_smile.gif

 

The main question is whether you like the "ethereal" presentation of Staxes or not. 

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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Technicalities wise I'd say it's better than the 500. The 500 (and the 6/lcd2/lcd3, even the hd800) will always have better bass impact though. On the other hands, Staxes are ethereal and blazingly fast (does not matter much unless you listen to thrash/death metal). The imaging, while still behind top dynamic/ortho, is better than the 500. 

 

I have the 507+ 323s and it's dangerously close to my He-6. While my He-6 is the king of metal/rock; I gotta hand the piano award to the Stax . Thankfully, the two compliments each other quite well and I don't have to make a choice between them. I also had the 407 and he-500, but then I got hit by upgrade-titus tongue_smile.gif

 

The main question is whether you like the "ethereal" presentation of Staxes or not. 

 

How does the 407 compare to 507?

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

How does the 407 compare to 507?

More comfy to me (for some reason the 507 driver is closer to my ear than the 407). Sound wise, the 507 is brighter (in a good way), and has better bass impact. The 507 also does subtle ambient cue better than the 407 too. 


Edited by khaine1711 - 4/16/13 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Technicalities wise I'd say it's better than the 500. The 500 (and the 6/lcd2/lcd3, even the hd800) will always have better bass impact though. On the other hands, Staxes are ethereal and blazingly fast (does not matter much unless you listen to thrash/death metal). The imaging, while still behind top dynamic/ortho, is better than the 500. 

 

I have the 507+ 323s and it's dangerously close to my He-6. While my He-6 is the king of metal/rock; I gotta hand the piano award to the Stax . Thankfully, the two compliments each other quite well and I don't have to make a choice between them. I also had the 407 and he-500, but then I got hit by upgrade-titus tongue_smile.gif

 

The main question is whether you like the "ethereal" presentation of Staxes or not. 

 

I'd have to disagree. People complain about the HD800 not having base, well, the 507+323 in my experience has little to no base at all. They do sound excellent for a lot of music like you mentioned, such as piano. But a He500 for instance will be much better for an overall music experience.

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HE500, and modern planar magnetic headphones in general, are hard to beat in terms of their versatility with music genres. Hifiman cans in particular are "genre masters", as DavidMahler calls them in his flagship thread. That's a very important attribute I think, as most people indulge in just about every which genre of music when they get more into this hobby.

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I'd have to disagree. People complain about the HD800 not having base, well, the 507+323 in my experience has little to no base at all. They do sound excellent for a lot of music like you mentioned, such as piano. But a He500 for instance will be much better for an overall music experience.

Properly driven the hd800 are not lacking in bass in anyway, of course the impact can't be as .. "impactful" as the Lcd2 for instance. But bass isn't all about impact - I guess if you are looking for impact, you're already looking at the Audeze and orthos in general anyway. Texture wise, cello and pipe organ sound much better on the 800/507/6 than the 500 for example.

 

Calling the 507 bass less is kind of an exaggeration, they can't give you rumbling bass, but there's still plenty of slam. It's just that the sound decays so fast that it may give the illusion of no bass. FWIW I don't think the 507 can touch my He-6 at certain genres, but they are in no way bad, just different presentation.


Edited by khaine1711 - 4/16/13 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

HE500, and modern planar magnetic headphones in general, are hard to beat in terms of their versatility with music genres. Hifiman cans in particular are "genre masters", as DavidMahler calls them in his flagship thread. That's a very important attribute I think, as most people indulge in just about every which genre of music when they get more into this hobby.

 

+1, HE-500 is very versatile, works with just about any genre.

 

also the beyerdynamic T1 is a great "genre master" (more air and detail, less fullness, less forgiving).

post #4423 of 18028
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

Technicalities wise I'd say it's better than the 500. The 500 (and the 6/lcd2/lcd3, even the hd800) will always have better bass impact though. On the other hands, Staxes are ethereal and blazingly fast (does not matter much unless you listen to thrash/death metal). The imaging, while still behind top dynamic/ortho, is better than the 500. 

 

I have the 507+ 323s and it's dangerously close to my He-6. While my He-6 is the king of metal/rock; I gotta hand the piano award to the Stax . Thankfully, the two compliments each other quite well and I don't have to make a choice between them. I also had the 407 and he-500, but then I got hit by upgrade-titus tongue_smile.gif

 

The main question is whether you like the "ethereal" presentation of Staxes or not. 

 

 

How close?  I only ask because my HE-6 / F1J rig is right on par with a BHSE / 007 rig IMO while killing with everything bass related..  Now the BHSE / 009 rig is tops but the HE-6 rig comes dangerously close - IMO ..

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IME electrostats have very much 'texture' and plenty of bass slam.

post #4425 of 18028

These are absolutely end game for me, I was always after something that kept the qualities of the HD650 and MS-pros/RS1 and had none of their draw backs(dull and boring sound & small sound-stage respectively..........well this headphone kept all the qualities of both, made them even better,,,,and has zero drawbacks IMO.....possibly the weight, but once they are on and you start listening to the sound they produce you quickly forget about that, they sound amazing with EVERY type of music too. 

 

after a week or so with them, they just keep sounding better. 

 

couldn't be happier/10

 

props to David from the best headphone thread for recommending them. 


Edited by Flognuts - 4/17/13 at 5:41am
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