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post #436 of 18022
Originally Posted by K3cT View Post

Glad that I'm not the only one who hears that "bloom" in the lower mid region which you refer as syrupy. It's pleasant sure but it's not present in the original recording.

 

That being said, I definitely favor the HE-500 over HE-6 but I still think that $899 is a bit overpriced for these.



You're definitely not the only one who hears that mid-bass. That was maybe my only actual grievance with the HE-500.

When you say that you think the HE-500 are overpriced is it in comparison to other headphones of similar quality, or are you saying that you think $900 is too much to pay for a pair of headphones?

post #437 of 18022
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Originally Posted by zenpunk View Post

I took part the HE-500 EU loaner programme  but I have been a bit slow to post my thoughts while Windsor didn't seem to have lost any time wink.gif.  Thanks again to Jan from Sieveking Sound.

So much have been said about those cans and I agree that they deserve the attention they are getting. The first thing I noticed was the beautiful mid and how realistic voices sounded.

Compared to the HE-4, the sounds is thicker and the bass is greatly improved, reaching lower with more weigh but they don't have the extended and airy treble of the HE-4, which sounds beautiful with some tracks but was troubling me on others. They also don't have the transparent and effortless quality of the HE-4. But in the end  the HE-500 was more enjoyable.

While the HE-500 are easier to drive than the HE-4 they still require a reasonably powerful amp. I tried those with my Fiio E11(high current-high gain settings) and the sounds was pleasant but  was lacking in refinement compared to my Concerto.

Contrary to Windsor I didn't think the HE-500 was bright but that maybe because I got used to the HE-4. As a recovering basshead I found the bass very satisfying even it they are no match to the DX1000.

Overall, they sounded extremely  well balanced and seemed to handle every type of music beautifully. It is also the first time I listen to a headphone and thought I would be happy if I just had the HE-500. But now I am curious about the HE-6, even if they are only marginally better as I am planning to get a Little Dot MKVI+.

I would just add that was not too keen on the provided cable, too thick and rigid for my liking. I swapped it with the HE-4's one, which I prefer. 

 

If you're interested in the HE-6, www.ampcity.co.uk, who are based in Middlesex, list them on their website and may have some in store that you can try. :-)
 

 

post #438 of 18022

Zida i have been wondering exactly the same thing.. He approves of them over the HE-6, which is $300 more so not sure where he is coming from either.

 

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You're definitely not the only one who hears that mid-bass. That was maybe my only actual grievance with the HE-500.

When you say that you think the HE-500 are overpriced is it in comparison to other headphones of similar quality, or are you saying that you think $900 is too much to pay for a pair of headphones?



 

post #439 of 18022

hmmm, out of all the hifiman headphones, lcd 2 and hd800 which one is considered the closest to real-life? the neutral vs natural discussion has left me confused :( 

post #440 of 18022

I think $799 would have been a killer price point--as I said much earlier in this thread, this headphone is placed awkwardly in the larger scheme of things.  

 

But I will still be buying one at $920.  tongue.gif


Edited by sphinxvc - 7/6/11 at 3:34am
post #441 of 18022

My HE-500's arrived 2 days ago.

 

My first impressions with the sound are very positive, even straight out of the box. What a beautifully balanced sound, with very natural highs, not piercing in any kind.

 

But I've used it 2 times now, both times, I get pretty serious neck pain after 10 minutes head time. It's very heavy, as we know, but the weight feels very well distributed. Pads are pretty comfortable.

But it seems like my neck can't handle the weight.

 

Also got LCD-2's coming, we'll see how it evolves with HE-500 and compares to LCD-2 (leather headband).

 

I really hope I won't be forced to go back to dynamics only, I really love this sound. 

post #442 of 18022
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Originally Posted by Proglover View Post

My HE-500's arrived 2 days ago.

 

My first impressions with the sound are very positive, even straight out of the box. What a beautifully balanced sound, with very natural highs, not piercing in any kind.

 

But I've used it 2 times now, both times, I get pretty serious neck pain after 10 minutes head time. It's very heavy, as we know, but the weight feels very well distributed. Pads are pretty comfortable.

But it seems like my neck can't handle the weight.

 

Also got LCD-2's coming, we'll see how it evolves with HE-500 and compares to LCD-2 (leather headband).

 

I really hope I won't be forced to go back to dynamics only, I really love this sound. 


I'm assuming Rev.2 LCDs?  Looking forward to comparisons.  A word of warning though, the LCD-2s are heavier than the HE-500s from what I remember.  

 

post #443 of 18022

^ I don't know exactly, to be honest, about the LCD-2 version. It's a leather headband one, from TTVJ's stock, will be shipped today.

post #444 of 18022

I don't recall but is the stock HE-500 cable the one with the nylon sheathing?  

 

When you guys say you like the HE-6 cable better, is it because of the nylon sheathing  / microphonics / or sound signature?

post #445 of 18022

No the HE-500 doesnt have nylon sheathing.. I just received a HE-6 cable and it has more microphonics over the stock Canare HE-500 cable. Its definitely lighter and easier to move around for comfort. Also has the option for Balanced use down the track.

 

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Originally Posted by sphinxvc View Post

I don't recall but is the stock HE-500 cable the one with the nylon sheathing?  

 

When you guys say you like the HE-6 cable better, is it because of the nylon sheathing  / microphonics / or sound signature?



 

post #446 of 18022

Thanks for the clarification.  

post #447 of 18022

I just added some pics to my HE-500 reviewsmile_phones.gif

post #448 of 18022
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Originally Posted by Zida View Post



You're definitely not the only one who hears that mid-bass. That was maybe my only actual grievance with the HE-500.

When you say that you think the HE-500 are overpriced is it in comparison to other headphones of similar quality, or are you saying that you think $900 is too much to pay for a pair of headphones?


It's like you said, the price is a bit awkward since it's very close to the LCD2 and after comparing them, I still think that LCD2 is the superior headphone. It's more transparent, more resolving and most importantly it scales up better. If they drop the price by $100 to $150, it's going to be a great bargain since you don't have to wonder whether you're going to get a better deal with an extra $50.

 

And just to clarify a bit, I do prefer the HE500 over the HE6 but it's due to personal preferences. In terms of technicalities, the HE6 is superior no doubt.


Edited by K3cT - 7/9/11 at 4:19am
post #449 of 18022

Today on a "wild goose chase" I decided to try the "stock" cable that ships with the HE-500. So I removed the copper HE-6 balanced cable and replaced it with the single ended black sheathed cable. I will for the sake of consistency burn-in the cable for 100 hours before putting down my final thoughts. For now I can say that straight out of the box the "stock cable does not suck"! The overall sound remains the same, there is a slight loss in power and that I had to slightly increase the volume but it was very minimal and this may disappear with "burn-in". I also find there is a slight loss in transparency and the music is not as engaging nor as musical. BTW, I was listening to Maysa, "A Woman In Love" using a Meridian 506 as a transport with a Monarchy Audio NM24 via its line stage. I also used the Meridian and the Monarchy Audio to feed a Singlepower MPX3 SE Slam sporting a trio of 6SN7 GTB tubes.

 

The one thing I can honestly say about the stock cable is that although it looks and feels very nice it SUCKS major time in HOW RIGID IT IS. If my search is correct the cable a Canare 4S6 speaker cable has good specs ( http://www.canare.com/ProductItemDisplay.aspx?productItemID=63 ). BTW, one thing I like is the split from left to right channel is a long way from the can and that due to the sheathing it should be a long lasting cable resisting daily abuse well. More to come in a few days.

 

Revised on July 10th at 9:00am: Changed the word "tube" for "cable".


Edited by mrarroyo - 7/10/11 at 6:02am
post #450 of 18022
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Originally Posted by mrarroyo View Post
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The one thing I can honestly say about the stock tube is that although it looks and feels very nice it SUCKS major time in HOW RIGID IT IS.

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My tubes are also pretty rigid, but I never considered that to be a shortcoming!!!      etysmile.gif


Edited by HiFlight - 7/9/11 at 9:39am
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