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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Welcome back mate!.

Anyways, Welcome back and enjoy that HE-500. BTW Hifiman will probably release some new phones this year. wink.gif

Yeah they do..but its said they will come out only in 2014.... i also heard a rumor they are working on a new version of their first ever phone..their mysterious super headphone, The Jade...i already have planned to upgrade my he500 to a better hifiman next year..a he600? He7? Jade MK2?

But what i do know is, that when they do come out with something, its always something special in its pricerange...and am still waiting for a sr009/007/lcd3 'killer' (or competitor biggrin.gif) from hifiman wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/14/13 at 11:47am
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I'm just happy the HE-500 is getting the love it deserves. This thread was like in slow motion the first six months after the HE-500 was released. I bought my first HE-500 in July of 2011 and we had like ten posts on this thread from August to November (or something like that...) Nobody used to give a crap about these phones. It was all about LCD-2 vs HD800 or Stax.

 

I'm thinking about rebuying the HE-500 and driving them from speaker taps this time. I really do miss it. evil_smiley.gif

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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

I'm just happy the HE-500 is getting the love it deserves. This thread was like in slow motion the first six months after the HE-500 was released. I bought my first HE-500 in July of 2011 and we had like ten posts on this thread from August to November (or something like that...) Nobody used to give a crap about these phones. It was all about LCD-2 vs HD800 or Stax.

I'm thinking about rebuying the HE-500 and driving them from speaker taps this time. I really do miss it. evil_smiley.gif
They are indeed of a special kind....and if ur prepared to invest into the right amp/dac/cables/vibration control to pair with it and use only high quality sources (sacd/flac/wav and so on) then it will bring u in musical heaven. wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/14/13 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

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This is how comparisons should be done IMO.  Living with what's being compared. 

 

Agreed. 5, even 10 minutes listening at a meet doesn't do justice to the equipment. I hated the LCD-2 the first time I tried it. It took me about 2 hours to somewhat start liking them. I was coming from a HE-500 so the LCD-2 sounded dead. Now 3 months later I am liking the LCD-2 more than the HE-500.

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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

Agreed. 5, even 10 minutes listening at a meet doesn't do justice to the equipment. I hated the LCD-2 the first time I tried it. It took me about 2 hours to somewhat start liking them. I was coming from a HE-500 so the LCD-2 sounded dead. Now 3 months later I am liking the LCD-2 more than the HE-500.
I agree totally..sometimes ur ears need time to aclimatize to the new components...wink.gif
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post



fearless....didnt u say u compared ur pimped up lyr with ur bog standard 337? And which 337 do u have? the first versions didnt do well with plannars..on the lastest models (2009 and later) they put extra capacitors to solve that..check google for pics of the different reversions....
 

Did nothing to my Lyr besides roll the tubes, and I have the 337 SE that I bought in 2011. The 337 is a fine amp for some of my cans (600, 650) but I do not feel a need to mention it every time someone talks of another amp or it would seem rather obnoxious and superfluous.

 

I heard the Mjolnir while visiting a friend (his friend had it with the LCD-2s) and was unimpressed thinking the Lyr was so much better (and I know what tubes I use ),  I bought one anyway and guess what, after owning one I could have not been more wrong!

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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post

Did nothing to my Lyr besides roll the tubes, and I have the 337 SE that I bought in 2011. The 337 is a fine amp for some of my cans (600, 650) but I do not feel a need to mention it every time someone talks of another amp or it would seem rather obnoxious and superfluous.

I heard the Mjolnir while visiting a friend (his friend had it with the LCD-2s) and was unimpressed thinking the Lyr was so much better (and I know what tubes I use ),  I bought one anyway and guess what, after owning one I could have not been more wrong!
I agree with u my friend...the hd650 is best pair for a 337...even better then the he500..
Never heard the shiit mjolnir..so u think the lyr is the better amp with the he500? Good to know..iearlier this year i was interested into the mjolnir in combo with the gungir...but a month ago i decided to go all bongus..and go blue circle audio...hope to get it in november...thanks for the confirmation that i decided the right thing wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/14/13 at 1:18pm
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Can I get good tubes for about $60 or have to spend more
What tubes would you recommend
post #4344 of 18030
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

Can I get good tubes for about $60 or have to spend more
What tubes would you recommend
Rca for power tubes, 5693 reds for drivers..i think u can get both pairs together for 100 max.
But am sure ultrainferno has more suggestions for u...as his collection is huge..
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/14/13 at 2:36pm
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What is the difference between power tubes and driver tubes new to tube amps
post #4346 of 18030
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

What is the difference between power tubes and driver tubes new to tube amps

Most simple difference: driver tubes are much smaller then power tubes.(as far i know) biggrin.gif

But going into the matter a bit more: I once read that In First, a lot of it depends on the circuit. The driver can perform a variety of functions. In the simplest sense, it boosts the signal up to a level where the output tubes become more linear. Also, you can use this configuration to apply feedback to the circuit.

So for most audio amps the rule is:

Output tube = power tube
Input tube = gain tube = driver tube
Driver tube sometimes=driver tube tongue.gif

Are the common uses of the names. They are used fairly interchangeably in many descriptions.

Output tube is used in place of power tube for a few reasons. Output tube means the last tube in the amp. In a speaker amp this is almost always a fairly high power tube. BUT not all headphone amps use "traditional" power tubes as output tubes - many use what speaker amps would use as drivers!

Driver tubes are a really foggy category. When you start looking for every last watt out of a power tube it helps if the tube before it can supply a bit of power - you kind of smack them around a bit (despite peoples love for fairly large power tubes in headphone amps, headphone amps almost never get to this level). The gain/input tubes cant do this because they are generally designed for better linearity rather than more power so the drivers supply medium amounts of power to drive the output/power tubes when they throw a fit but are easy enough for the gain tube to drive.

The input/gain tube is the tube at the input of the amp that is generally considered the key tube for providing gain. They are generally small little guys that cant handle much power, but have nice low distortion & low noise.

All of these designations are somewhat foggy because every circuit is different.

Also, it isn't necessary to have a driver and an output tube. I've seen some single-stage designs, and it is possible to use an input transformer. Though a quality input transformer will add substantially to the cost. I imagine the lack of input transformers in gear has more to do with keeping down prices.but as always..google is ur best friend if u need more info wink.gif

Hope this helped a bit...
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/14/13 at 3:36pm
post #4347 of 18030
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post


I have the asgard2 also thinking of upgrading to lyr do you use the stock tubes really do not want to get into tube rolling

 

When I auditioned it the Lyr it was with stock JJ tubes and I ordered it with the JJ tubes. Sounds great. I may order the GE tubes off of Ebay just for kicks as they are cheap but I am not really interested in rolling. 

 

A couple years back I did a lot of 12AU7 tube rolling for a hi fi amp and in general it got me nowhere. I had the Telefunkens and all that and I can't say it made a big impact on my listening experience or made a bad amp better. 

 

With my Lyr as it is now I feel I have reached my goal with the HE500s and I realize that getting an even slightly better sound would be $$$$, so I am going to stay where I am.

post #4348 of 18030
+1 
 
I'm the same way with my main rig. I'm happy with my HE-500 and lyr set up. 
 
I'm just looking at a portable rig now, after that I'll just be lurking in the misc/music forum on head fi tongue.gif
post #4349 of 18030
Guys,

Sometimes do you think the HE500 brings up too many detail and flaws from the recording?
post #4350 of 18030

no. its actually quite forgiving. the detail is very nice though, not hyper detailed, but nicely detailed.

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