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post #4246 of 16155
Got the HE-500 with the DT990 Pro Velour Pads.
Is it me or does the sound getting worse with the dust cover of the 990 Velours?

Or is that a Placebo?
Edited by Sourcesys - 4/11/13 at 8:36am
post #4247 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Sourcesys View Post

Got the HE-500 with the DT990 Pro Velour Pads.
Is it me or does the sound getting worse with the dust cover of the 990 Velours?

Or is that a Placebo?

I had to use the foam dust covers because without them I was getting some terrible sibilance. I also covered the small holes on the plastic mounting ring with some electrical tape and that helped to further minimize the sibilance.
post #4248 of 16155
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Originally Posted by h4mm3r 0f th0r View Post

 



yeah... it is more like the hd600 than an hd650 which would resemble lcd2 more...

 

+1.

 

HE-500 = super 600, and LCD-2 = super 650

 

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Originally Posted by Stalker81598 View Post


I had to use the foam dust covers because without them I was getting some terrible sibilance. I also covered the small holes on the plastic mounting ring with some electrical tape and that helped to further minimize the sibilance.

 

my HE-500 has no sibilance. 

post #4249 of 16155

Wow, I just noticed the effects of brain burn in or is it the HE-500?

I haven't heard my HE-500 for quite a while since I was busy modding and tuning my T50RP that I consistently use them even for portable use.

When I heard my HE-500 again immediately, I was shocked on how bass light it is. But after listening it for a few hours on moderate volume, it seems that everything that I found brilliant is back again and made me realise how bass heavy my modded T50RPs are.

Or... (I think it's a bit far fetched) do planar magnetics, when they haven't been used in a while, develop a sort of "warm up period" after a long break? Like a car that hasn't been used in years.

post #4250 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

my HE-500 has no sibilance. 

 

It does if you use the DT990 pads without the foam dust covers normal_smile%20.gif

post #4251 of 16155

Really? I heard no such thing with my foamless 990 pads on HE-500.

post #4252 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Grado77 View Post

Really? I heard no such thing with my foamless 990 pads on HE-500.

 

When I swapped back and forth between the DT990 pads and the stock velours, I heard much hotter "S" and "T" sounds, almost like a shrill hiss. It sits high, greater than 10Khz, not between 7-8Khz where sibilance is usually heard. I used the HE-500 with the stock velours for several weeks before trying the DT990 pads and it was immediately apparent to me after switching.

 

Of course this is all in my experience, with my ears, etc

post #4253 of 16155
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Originally Posted by VortexBlast View Post

Wow, I just noticed the effects of brain burn in or is it the HE-500?

I haven't heard my HE-500 for quite a while since I was busy modding and tuning my T50RP that I consistently use them even for portable use.

When I heard my HE-500 again immediately, I was shocked on how bass light it is. But after listening it for a few hours on moderate volume, it seems that everything that I found brilliant is back again and made me realise how bass heavy my modded T50RPs are.

Or... (I think it's a bit far fetched) do planar magnetics, when they haven't been used in a while, develop a sort of "warm up period" after a long break? Like a car that hasn't been used in years.

 

A bit of both. The HE-500 initially does go through burn in. I initially had a used burned in HE-500 and then I got a replacement HE-500 which sounded terrible out of the box compared to the old HE-500. It was quite bad, so I let it burn in for 40 ish hours and the previous sound was pretty much back. Also, your brain does need time to adjust to the presentation of that particular headphone. Regarding the warm up period after a break, I am not sure if it does help or not, although on some days I noticed it helped to have it playing for a while. Now I usually turn on the amp and DACs suppose 20 mins before I know I am going to listen to it. This is required with tubes, although I do it with my solid state as well. I have no evidence for this, but it's just those one of those things I do to keep the bug out of my head. Similarly, I always plug out my headphones first and then turn off the amps - even with amps claiming fast shutoff relay. It's just a good habit to have IMO, I do the same thing with cars in winter time. 

post #4254 of 16155
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When I swapped back and forth between the DT990 pads and the stock velours, I heard much hotter "S" and "T" sounds, almost like a shrill hiss. It sits high, greater than 10Khz, not between 7-8Khz where sibilance is usually heard. I used the HE-500 with the stock velours for several weeks before trying the DT990 pads and it was immediately apparent to me after switching.



Of course this is all in my experience, with my ears, etc

The 990 velour for me sound like the HE-500 pleather pads. Voodoo time? biggrin.gif
post #4255 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

theres no difference. if anything but the new one to be safe, but to me, all hd 800s sound the same. mine is in the 8000s and sounds the same as the older (3000s), or the newer 13-20k... 

 

the HD 800 is a very good headphone, different from either hifiman or audeze, and when properly amped, you can forget everything negative you've ever heard about the HD 800, its simply not true. (artificial soundstage, analytical, bass-less, thin and bright, lifeless, etc). it complements the LCD-2 very well and i havent listened to the HE-500 much since i still find the HD 800 and T1 to be the better headphones. 

 

20,000 HD800. Wow, Sennheiser's getting paid. Not to mention their crap load of other products. How do people find the HD800 with solid state gear? I have heard mixed opinions on this.

post #4256 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Sourcesys View Post


The 990 velour for me sound like the HE-500 pleather pads. Voodoo time? biggrin.gif

 

The difference in experiences could be attributed to the source/amp. Right now I'm driving the HE-500 with a Magni, but I have a Lyr on the way. Won't get here until next Wednesday frown.gif

post #4257 of 16155
Using my Xonar Essence STX, I dont think its the Soundcard. Maybe I'm not in the right mood for music, today.

Is it even possible that the foam would made a difference?
post #4258 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

A bit of both. The HE-500 initially does go through burn in. I initially had a used burned in HE-500 and then I got a replacement HE-500 which sounded terrible out of the box compared to the old HE-500. It was quite bad, so I let it burn in for 40 ish hours and the previous sound was pretty much back. Also, your brain does need time to adjust to the presentation of that particular headphone. Regarding the warm up period after a break, I am not sure if it does help or not, although on some days I noticed it helped to have it playing for a while. Now I usually turn on the amp and DACs suppose 20 mins before I know I am going to listen to it. This is required with tubes, although I do it with my solid state as well. I have no evidence for this, but it's just those one of those things I do to keep the bug out of my head. Similarly, I always plug out my headphones first and then turn off the amps - even with amps claiming fast shutoff relay. It's just a good habit to have IMO, I do the same thing with cars in winter time. 

+1 i agree with this...i do the same with my rig. Its gotten a habit now.
post #4259 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

20,000 HD800. Wow, Sennheiser's getting paid. Not to mention their crap load of other products. How do people find the HD800 with solid state gear? I have heard mixed opinions on this.

I only heard the hd800 on only 2 amps for at least an hour....the v200 from violectric and my darkvoice 337...the first amp made the hd800 sing like an angel..on contrary the hd800 sounded downright terrible on my 337.

Actually The previous owner of my 337 sold it to me because he bought a hd800..as he hated how it sounded with his new hd800..he told me he bought the 337 for his hd650 with which it paired perfectly...i agree with that also.

he told me he bought a custommade bada amp (hybrid? Never heard of that brand before) to pair with his new hd800..
post #4260 of 16155
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

20,000 HD800. Wow, Sennheiser's getting paid. Not to mention their crap load of other products. How do people find the HD800 with solid state gear? I have heard mixed opinions on this.

 

The HD800s with the GS-X mk2 is a pretty good match.  Down right good.

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