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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

Well, if you don't already have a XLR cable, you won't hear the NFB-10SE to its full potential. The snake is biting its own tail here biggrin.gif

You make a good point. I better get that cable wink.gif

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Ordered a canare cable from Charleston.
Edited by Jesterphile - 4/10/13 at 6:06am
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How do you like the musicstreamer II+/magni combo disastermouse? I was considering getting the same but Schiit gear is a little more expensive over here in Aus.
I like it! I think that there are probably better amps than the Magni for the HE-500 and better DACs than the MSii+. That said, the Magni drives them in a way the E9 and O2 do not. The O2 is especially unforgivably bad. In my opinion. However there are too many people here that disagree with me regarding the O2 for you to consider only my opinion. Furthermore, the Magni is actually a CHEAPER amp than the O2, so I don't want you to think that I'm employing some sort of equipment elitism or snobbery when I hold forth with my opinion.
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I like it! I think that there are probably better amps than the Magni for the HE-500 and better DACs than the MSii+. That said, the Magni drives them in a way the E9 and O2 do not. The O2 is especially unforgivably bad. In my opinion. However there are too many people here that disagree with me regarding the O2 for you to consider only my opinion. Furthermore, the Magni is actually a CHEAPER amp than the O2, so I don't want you to think that I'm employing some sort of equipment elitism or snobbery when I hold forth with my opinion.

I didn't hear much improvement over my Fostex HP-A3 through my O2, and hence I sold it, then I sold the Fostex... and now I have an Audio GD NFB-10SE on the way to see if more power will make a difference; so I'll soon see if I agree with you about the O2 not having enough power.

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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

I didn't hear much improvement over my Fostex HP-A3 through my O2, and hence I sold it, then I sold the Fostex... and now I have an Audio GD NFB-10SE on the way to see if more power will make a difference; so I'll soon see if I agree with you about the O2 not having enough power.
This really is the best way! I have a tendency when I argue to sound as though my opinion is THE opinion. It's an aggressive way of arguing that doesn't sit well with many people, but it often produces an aggressive counter-argument that more readily shows up any flaws in my own position. Still, it comes across as very hard-headed and heavy-handed. I wish I knew a better way to provoke a more honest and impolite counter-view but people will be gentle with your opinions if you don't invite harsh criticism. They will let you hang on to your cherished but possibly mistaken view for far too long.
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I didn't hear much improvement over my Fostex HP-A3 through my O2, and hence I sold it, then I sold the Fostex... and now I have an Audio GD NFB-10SE on the way to see if more power will make a difference; so I'll soon see if I agree with you about the O2 not having enough power.

More power =/= better. More quality power is though. From memory the balance out of the 10SE is a bit bright/lean sounding; the SE is more warm but fuzzy sounding. Don't expect too much tongue_smile.gif

 

The DAC itself is nice though.

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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

I didn't hear much improvement over my Fostex HP-A3 through my O2, and hence I sold it, then I sold the Fostex... and now I have an Audio GD NFB-10SE on the way to see if more power will make a difference; so I'll soon see if I agree with you about the O2 not having enough power.

 

Make sure you get a wall wart that's at least 16VAC and 400mA.

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Thanks, was the company ok to deal with?

 

He was fast and very courteous, also provided me a free upgrade to his top of the line cable for free when he was out of stock of cable that I originally ordered highly recommended.

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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

I have the asgard2 but the lyr is calling my name would there be a big difference on the he500 with standard tubes. These pages are killing my wallet

 

I'm in the same boat. I have the A2 but after hearing the Lyr with HE-500s I've ordered one. Should be here tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

More power =/= better. More quality power is though. From memory the balance out of the 10SE is a bit bright/lean sounding; the SE is more warm but fuzzy sounding. Don't expect too much tongue_smile.gif


The DAC itself is nice though.

I understand that, I read a few reviews of the nfb10se that were fairly positive though. I will probably mix and match a few amps with it and see.

I like the look of the lyr and violectric v90
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I finally got my HE-500's in today and quite frankly, I'm impressed.  Coming from the HE-400's, there seems to be less bass impact as documented, but it's not drastic as I've assumed it to be.  What I've found as an improvement over the HE-400's are of course, the more forward mid range, instrument separation, and the tamed treble.  I think I may be oversensitive to treble, but I found the HE-400's highs to be quite shrilling.  Overall, I'm very happy with my purchase.  Just have to find me a decent amp now.

 

I've got a pair of HD650's also and I'm wondering if other owners think it's worth keeping.  I like them a lot, and I love the dark treble.  I was considering getting the K702 65th or the K712 when it comes out.  I had the Q701's and I was fine with its treble.
 


Edited by KetchupNinja - 4/10/13 at 9:42pm
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So you took the dive too Ketchupninja? biggrin.gif

 

The weight doesn't bother you? It was a big difference coming from the HE-400 and HD650, but it doesn't bother me that much. 

 

I was also interested in the K702 as a pair for my Valhalla, but I'm looking for a tv first. And after that most likely some IEM. I'm really content with my main rig as of now smily_headphones1.gif

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I've been thinking of perhaps getting the HD650 or the 600. I already have the LCD-2 and HE-500, would be it a waste of money completely, or is there some redeeming feature in the Sennheiser's?

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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post


I understand that, I read a few reviews of the nfb10se that were fairly positive though. I will probably mix and match a few amps with it and see.

I like the look of the lyr and violectric v90

 

The 10SE is a stellar balanced unit. I'm not sure where the other person commenting on it heard it, but it seems like they didn't give it a good listen. I owned that unit. The SE is absolutely amazing. Top notch. Balanced is also fantastic. A really good sounding amplifier. The DAC in it is also tops. The sound signature on the 10SE is incredibly spacious, transparent and neutral. 

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So you took the dive too Ketchupninja? biggrin.gif

 

The weight doesn't bother you? It was a big difference coming from the HE-400 and HD650, but it doesn't bother me that much. 

 

I was also interested in the K702 as a pair for my Valhalla, but I'm looking for a tv first. And after that most likely some IEM. I'm really content with my main rig as of now smily_headphones1.gif


I sure did lol.  I really enjoyed the sound of the HE-400's but those highs made me cringe every time.  The weight doesn't really bother me all too much, I find it pretty comfortable actually.  I really liked the Q701's because of the large soundstage, though I'm selling it because I want something with a stronger low end.  With the announced K712's and the 3db low end boost, It looks like I've found what I'm looking for.  I'm waiting to see if there is confirmation that it's just a massed produced version of the 65th.

post #4230 of 14283
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

I've been thinking of perhaps getting the HD650 or the 600. I already have the LCD-2 and HE-500, would be it a waste of money completely, or is there some redeeming feature in the Sennheiser's?

 

comfort and a laid back sound signature. however, the LCD-2 is basically a more transparent and refined HD 650 (i found their sound signature to be extremely similar) and the HE-500 isn't too far off. you should look at the next level if you are seeking something else (LCD-3/HE-6)

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