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post #4186 of 16686
Many years ago when I used speakers the rule of thumb was 1/2 your money on speakers 1/2 on amp and source
Doesn't the same apply $700 headphones $700 for dac and amp
post #4187 of 16686
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

Many years ago when I used speakers the rule of thumb was 1/2 your money on speakers 1/2 on amp and source
Doesn't the same apply $700 headphones $700 for dac and amp

 

I always heard 50% for the amp and preamp (mostly the latter) and the rest for CD, speakers and cables... YMMV

post #4188 of 16686
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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

Many years ago when I used speakers the rule of thumb was 1/2 your money on speakers 1/2 on amp and source
Doesn't the same apply $700 headphones $700 for dac and amp

Back then u had other pricing...a good amp costed u at least 800usd, a good lp player at least 600usd....u didnt have budget amps..good sound costed money..and weighted tons..period! And am not even talking about mono blocks and preamps..1400usd was a fortune back in the days..a speaker set of 1400 usd was humongous money!.

Nowadays u have budget amps/dacs because digital sound doesnt need the same amount of work and is cheaper to be built..

So coming back to ur question.....in my opinion i would say:
2/3 amp with dac or combo
1/3 headphone.

This isnt black and white ofcourse....if u have a 2000 usd headphone this rule wont comply anymore....as it would be nuts to buy a rig of 6000usd for that headphone..

but there are people enough who do..or own 6 models of top tier headphones....or several headphone amps.. biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/9/13 at 1:59pm
post #4189 of 16686
Thanks have the he500 asgard2 and odac thinking of the lyr can't decde
post #4190 of 16686
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

So you took the plunge heh?

Yep. Hopefully the NFB10SE gives me a good result, if not I can sell it off and try something else until I find something that suits me.

 

I really like the HP-A8c, I just can't afford the outlay at the moment 

post #4191 of 16686
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


This isnt black and white ofcourse....if u have a 2000 usd headphone this rule wont comply anymore....as it would be nuts to buy a rig of 6000usd for that headphone..

but there are people enough who do..or own 6 models of top tier headphones....or several headphone amps.. biggrin.gif

 

it still applies, in a way. tongue_smile.gif

 

LCD-3 + top tier amp in the 2-3k range + a 3k dac + cables and whatnot 

post #4192 of 16686

so my Lyr finally arrived and all I can say is WOW

 

everything sounds soo nice and crisp. (sorry I am no audiophile so I really don't know any other way to describe what I am hearing)

 

and I still haven't burned in my headphones and tubes. I honestly can't imagine how music can even sound any better. I mean the detail is unbelievable.
 

post #4193 of 16686

Congrats!! Trust me.. it gets better. Give them time to break in.  Once you've settled, give it a month or two, try some Amperex Orange Globes.

Happy Listening!!

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Originally Posted by pukeman View Post

so my Lyr finally arrived and all I can say is WOW

 

everything sounds soo nice and crisp. (sorry I am no audiophile so I really don't know any other way to describe what I am hearing)

 

and I still haven't burned in my headphones and tubes. I honestly can't imagine how music can even sound any better. I mean the detail is unbelievable.
 

post #4194 of 16686
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Originally Posted by BleaK View Post


The one who says the O2 can't drive the HE500 state it as a matter of fact instead of saying that they don't like how it sounds. The ODAC/O2 drives HE500 really nicely and give them a great sound in my honest opinion. I don't want to start a debate, but I also want people who reads this thread that there are people (like me) out there who really enjoys the ODAC/O2 and the HE500 together :)
 

NFB-10SE is good though, you can see what you prefer, more options are always fun! Just remember to try it in balanced mode, it sounds better than the SE output :)

Count me in as one of those like you, Bleak.

post #4195 of 16686

Any recommendations of a balanced cable to go with my HE500's and NFB10SE?

 

I was looking at PlusSound cables as they're relatively inexpensive (compared to other cables I've seen)

 

I didn't like the HiFiMan silver cable and prefer using the canare cable I have so I'd prefer to have a similar cable with balanced termination.

post #4196 of 16686

Nevermind. It was funnier in my head.

 

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Edited by OldSkool - 4/9/13 at 6:38pm
post #4197 of 16686
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

Any recommendations of a balanced cable to go with my HE500's and NFB10SE?

 

I was looking at PlusSound cables as they're relatively inexpensive (compared to other cables I've seen)

 

I didn't like the HiFiMan silver cable and prefer using the canare cable I have so I'd prefer to have a similar cable with balanced termination.

 

 

Cut your single ended cable and solder the 4 leads into a XLR 4 pin plug is your cheapest bet =p. If you still want TRS for compatible, cut the cable and leave ~20cm of wire to the 1/4 plug. Should cost you 10-20 bucks top.

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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

 

 

Cut your single ended cable and solder the 4 leads into a XLR 4 pin plug is your cheapest bet =p. If you still want TRS for compatible, cut the cable and leave ~20cm of wire to the 1/4 plug. Should cost you 10-20 bucks top.

Yeah I thought about taking the knife to my cable but I think at this point I'd prefer to keep the cable intact for potential resale value and in case I go back to a Single ended amp redface.gif I can possibly convert the silver cable but I found it annoyingly microphonic

 

I wish the oem cables from HiFiMan weren't so expensive

post #4199 of 16686
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Originally Posted by Jesterphile View Post

Yeah I thought about taking the knife to my cable but I think at this point I'd prefer to keep the cable intact for potential resale value and in case I go back to a Single ended amp redface.gif I can possibly convert the silver cable but I found it annoyingly microphonic

 

I wish the oem cables from HiFiMan weren't so expensive

 

It's not that expensive =p. If you means the he-6 cable (OCC copper balance one) - kinda good value for $150 (I got the He-6 so it's free though tongue_smile.gif) considering cheapest aftermarket is Charleston ($90 - canare), and headphonelounge ($140ish - OCC copper). If you can DIY; canare star-quad is really cheap, and Neutrik 4 pin cost like 10 bucks, and around 5 bucks for paracord sleeve of your choice.

post #4200 of 16686
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

 

It's not that expensive =p. If you means the he-6 cable (OCC copper balance one) - kinda good value for $150 (I got the He-6 so it's free though tongue_smile.gif) considering cheapest aftermarket is Charleston ($90 - canare), and headphonelounge ($140ish - OCC copper). If you can DIY; canare star-quad is really cheap, and Neutrik 4 pin cost like 10 bucks, and around 5 bucks for paracord sleeve of your choice.

The Charleston cables look like they might be the go actually. I'll have to do more research into my options though

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