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Originally Posted by disastermouse View Post

my opinion (although others are of the same opinion).

And many disagree ;) That is the world of hifi :)

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It won't, but why not try it first before you sell it?  You can always sell it afterwards if you realize it's not enough.  Just don't mis-judge the headphones before trying with a better amp.  I mean, you already have the O2 - and the fact that it doesn't drive the HE-500 is, in fact, my opinion (although others are of the same opinion).

 

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And many disagree ;) That is the world of hifi :)

Thanks guys, I have both now so it doesn't matter. Although I have found 2 possible buyers for my O2 so we'll see where that goes.

 

How do you like the musicstreamer II+/magni combo disastermouse? I was considering getting the same but Schiit gear is a little more expensive over here in Aus.

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It won't, but why not try it first before you sell it?  You can always sell it afterwards if you realize it's not enough.  Just don't mis-judge the headphones before trying with a better amp.  I mean, you already have the O2 - and the fact that it doesn't drive the HE-500 is, in fact, my opinion (although others are of the same opinion).

I agree totally with u as uknow already..we have different opinions then others..so let us keep it that way..

u know what happens if a certain debate starts again about he500 being driving by budget amps..so lets say we all have different priorities..

me?..i prefer to pay as much as my budget allows me to get that utmost sound out of my he500.(and next year the he6 or the new jade)...my next amp will be 4times as expensive as my 337..

but i can understand that if someone has a mstage (i had one myself and totally loved it!) or any other budget amp and says it plays the he500 wonderfully then we have to respect that..

but imho if i buy an expensive headphone i wanna spend money on my amp also...

its like buying cheap budget tyres from kwikfit for ur track tuned porsche 911 GT3 RS..they keepu on the track reasonable well..(i saw such a test on top gear uk once) but investing in expensive pirelli semi-slicks gets u so much more safer and faster through the corners...

BUT AS I SAID..its all personal what u do with ur rig..enjoy it!..thats what matter..no matter if u invest 1000 usd in ur rig or 10.000usd. biggrin.gif
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I agree totally with u as uknow already..we have different opinions then others..so let us keep it that way..

u know what happens if a certain debate starts again about he500 being driving by budget amps..so lets say we all have different priorities..

me?..i prefer to pay as much as my budget allows me to get that utmost sound out of my he500.(and next year the he6 or the new jade)...my next amp will be 4times as expensive as my 337..

but i can understand that if someone has a mstage (i had one myself and totally loved it!) or any other budget amp and says it plays the he500 wonderfully then we have to respect that..

but imho if i buy an expensive headphone i wanna spend money on my amp also...

its like buying cheap budget tyres from kwikfit for ur track tuned porsche 911 GT3 RS..they keepu on the track reasonable well..(i saw such a test on top gear uk once) but investing in expensive pirelli semi-slicks gets u so much more safer and faster through the corners...

BUT AS I SAID..its all personal what u do with ur rig..enjoy it!..thats what matter..no matter if u invest 1000 usd in ur rig or 10.000usd. biggrin.gif

I thought the HE500's sounded good out of my HP-A3 - then the thoughts of more power set in and I had to find out if more power will get better sound.

 

So I spent some money - For science!

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So you took the plunge heh?

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Many years ago when I used speakers the rule of thumb was 1/2 your money on speakers 1/2 on amp and source
Doesn't the same apply $700 headphones $700 for dac and amp
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Many years ago when I used speakers the rule of thumb was 1/2 your money on speakers 1/2 on amp and source
Doesn't the same apply $700 headphones $700 for dac and amp

 

I always heard 50% for the amp and preamp (mostly the latter) and the rest for CD, speakers and cables... YMMV

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Many years ago when I used speakers the rule of thumb was 1/2 your money on speakers 1/2 on amp and source
Doesn't the same apply $700 headphones $700 for dac and amp

Back then u had other pricing...a good amp costed u at least 800usd, a good lp player at least 600usd....u didnt have budget amps..good sound costed money..and weighted tons..period! And am not even talking about mono blocks and preamps..1400usd was a fortune back in the days..a speaker set of 1400 usd was humongous money!.

Nowadays u have budget amps/dacs because digital sound doesnt need the same amount of work and is cheaper to be built..

So coming back to ur question.....in my opinion i would say:
2/3 amp with dac or combo
1/3 headphone.

This isnt black and white ofcourse....if u have a 2000 usd headphone this rule wont comply anymore....as it would be nuts to buy a rig of 6000usd for that headphone..

but there are people enough who do..or own 6 models of top tier headphones....or several headphone amps.. biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/9/13 at 1:59pm
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Thanks have the he500 asgard2 and odac thinking of the lyr can't decde
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So you took the plunge heh?

Yep. Hopefully the NFB10SE gives me a good result, if not I can sell it off and try something else until I find something that suits me.

 

I really like the HP-A8c, I just can't afford the outlay at the moment 

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This isnt black and white ofcourse....if u have a 2000 usd headphone this rule wont comply anymore....as it would be nuts to buy a rig of 6000usd for that headphone..

but there are people enough who do..or own 6 models of top tier headphones....or several headphone amps.. biggrin.gif

 

it still applies, in a way. tongue_smile.gif

 

LCD-3 + top tier amp in the 2-3k range + a 3k dac + cables and whatnot 

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so my Lyr finally arrived and all I can say is WOW

 

everything sounds soo nice and crisp. (sorry I am no audiophile so I really don't know any other way to describe what I am hearing)

 

and I still haven't burned in my headphones and tubes. I honestly can't imagine how music can even sound any better. I mean the detail is unbelievable.
 

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Congrats!! Trust me.. it gets better. Give them time to break in.  Once you've settled, give it a month or two, try some Amperex Orange Globes.

Happy Listening!!

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so my Lyr finally arrived and all I can say is WOW

 

everything sounds soo nice and crisp. (sorry I am no audiophile so I really don't know any other way to describe what I am hearing)

 

and I still haven't burned in my headphones and tubes. I honestly can't imagine how music can even sound any better. I mean the detail is unbelievable.
 

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The one who says the O2 can't drive the HE500 state it as a matter of fact instead of saying that they don't like how it sounds. The ODAC/O2 drives HE500 really nicely and give them a great sound in my honest opinion. I don't want to start a debate, but I also want people who reads this thread that there are people (like me) out there who really enjoys the ODAC/O2 and the HE500 together :)
 

NFB-10SE is good though, you can see what you prefer, more options are always fun! Just remember to try it in balanced mode, it sounds better than the SE output :)

Count me in as one of those like you, Bleak.

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Any recommendations of a balanced cable to go with my HE500's and NFB10SE?

 

I was looking at PlusSound cables as they're relatively inexpensive (compared to other cables I've seen)

 

I didn't like the HiFiMan silver cable and prefer using the canare cable I have so I'd prefer to have a similar cable with balanced termination.

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