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Originally Posted by hyunsac View Post

haha guys... not really going to throw my hd650's out, we've had too much history together. But they are sitting there collecting dust. Maybe I should get a bottlehead crack to bring them back to life. Feel like I cheating on it with the HE500's cuz I'm loving it so much.

Or get a lafigaro 339...according to a review of a respected reviewer and my own ears..that amp goes very well with both phones.biggrin.gif

post #4037 of 13450
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Or get a lafigaro 339...according to a review of a respected reviewer and my own ears..that amp goes very well with both phones.biggrin.gif

 

Agreed. Also does quite well with the T1's.

 

KP

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Question, can a tube amp like woo w6 can power the HE 500 with excellent result?
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the WA6-SE can! im sure the WA6 will do ok as well! it might be a little lacking though.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 3/30/13 at 3:59am
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

thanks for your 192 impressions, i wanted to get one since it came out, im probably just gonna wait till i get a job though and then buy the Audiophileo or something tongue_smile.gif

how do u think the 192 would compare to something like that?

 

The Audiophileo should be an improvement over the V-Link 192.  Checkout this shootout thread between converters in another forum.  The original test was with the original v-link.  A retest included the v-link 192.  As I remember, on a scale of 100, the reviewer rated the Audiophileo 90-95% and the v-link 192 85%.  That's not bad for the v-link given the Audiophileo is nearly 3x to 5x as much - depending on the version.  I have never heard the Audiophileo personally, but the reviews have been consistently good. 

 

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/15-usb-spdif-converters-shootout-15327/

 

I really have a hard time spending a lot of money on a spdif converter.  If I am going to drop a grand or so, I would rather add a Woo tube amp or something to my collection.  Also, jitter - the primary problem converters solve - is a problem of convenience - wanting to use an all purpose computer for hi-end audio.  The USB, etc interface just produces too much of it.  As computer audio continues to develop, I believe this problem will be solved in the computer itself (through more dedicated audio paths), rather than requiring an outboard device or a robust solution in the dac itself.

 

Two cents.  

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Originally Posted by pukeman View Post

Damn I will be getting a Lyr next week ish...well at least it should sound better than listening to them um amped like I am now

 

I agree with the other posters, the Lyr can definitely work with the HE500, but getting really good sound required - on my system at least - a bit of tube rolling and some patience.  I am low on patience.  I like to plug-play-and-forget.  The Lyr is quite a good bargain.  The Soloist is clearly better, but 2x the price.  In fact, the short coming of the Lyr may not have been so obvious to me if I had not kept comparing it to the amp section of my Benchmark DAC1.  As some have said, it's hard to trounce the DAC1's amp section for under a grand.

 

Party On!    

post #4042 of 13450
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

I love the pleathers. I haven't tried the velours; 'don't want to break what's not broken. Great phones as they are delivered.


+1
post #4043 of 13450
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Originally Posted by Pasquale View Post

I agree with the other posters, the Lyr can definitely work with the HE500, but getting really good sound required - on my system at least - a bit of tube rolling and some patience.  I am low on patience.  I like to plug-play-and-forget.  The Lyr is quite a good bargain.  The Soloist is clearly better, but 2x the price.  In fact, the short coming of the Lyr may not have been so obvious to me if I had not kept comparing it to the amp section of my Benchmark DAC1.  As some have said, it's hard to trounce the DAC1's amp section for under a grand.

Party On!    
I think a lot of the new DACs are upping the headphone amps.
post #4044 of 13450
Just bought this and gonna pair it with the burson ha-160D. Can't wait
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After about 15 hours of listening to the HE-500 I must say the bass is somewhat muddied when compared to the HE-400. Some recordings reveal my findings much more than others. Am I under amplifying these with my Pico amp, or is this the nature of the two cans? I still however prefer the signature of the HE-500 by a wide enough margin.

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After about 15 hours of listening to the HE-500 I must say the bass is somewhat muddied when compared to the HE-400. Some recordings reveal my findings much more than others. Am I under amplifying these with my Pico amp, or is this the nature of the two cans? I still however prefer the signature of the HE-500 by a wide enough margin.

That is well-known. HE500's bass is a tad more "wooly" than other orthos like LCD2 or HE400 etc, but really it is only apparent when you compare them head-to-head.

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That is well-known. HE500's bass is a tad more "wooly" than other orthos like LCD2 or HE400 etc, but really it is only apparent when you compare them head-to-head.

 

Thanks for the clarification. I've been seriously considering upgrading to another dac and amp, but I have a hunch I'll be disappointed regarding money spent versus sonic upgrade. Perhaps I should just check out some pad modding!  

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Originally Posted by stereolab View Post

 

Thanks for the clarification. I've been seriously considering upgrading to another dac and amp, but I have a hunch I'll be disappointed regarding money spent versus sonic upgrade. Perhaps I should just check out some pad modding!  

That IMO is the best and most direct way to improve the sound. Changing dacs/amps/cables etc are like taking medications to calm symptoms of an illness, while more invasive mods like driver damping / earpad modifications are the "surgeries" needed to truly fix the sound, or at least change it in the right direction in a dramatic way.

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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

That IMO is the best and most direct way to improve the sound. Changing dacs/amps/cables etc are like taking medications to calm symptoms of an illness, while more invasive mods like driver damping / earpad modifications are the "surgeries" needed to truly fix the sound, or at least change it in the right direction in a dramatic way.
Jerg Pads made the bass less woolly but made the upper mids way too etched.
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Jerg Pads made the bass less woolly but made the upper mids way too etched.

 

It's always a balance. The Velour pads usually help tame the highs and bring out the mids, while making the bass less crisp. I have a pair of the original dog pads on mine and really like the results. They sound great. 

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