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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

There have been he-400 and he-500 shortages since mid-february

Its no surprise for me..they sell like sweet cookies..as their good name is skyrocketing...excellent phones for reasonable pricesbiggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by justin w. View Post

There have been he-400 and he-500 shortages since mid-february
It took them two months for 6 replacements. I suspect they had to make a driver run and was waiting for enough orders to justify. Of course, speculation and nothing to verify other than the unusually long time for service responses that was out of character for the usually very responsive Head Direct CS team.
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

That's the second time I've heard of Head Direct doing that lately... I think I'll avoid them. Thanks for the heads up. 

 

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Toxic cables is hifiman dealer and they have lots in stock i understand..maybe u can try there?

Thanks Rookie, I ordered from Audio Advisor and have received tracking info already(overnight shipping)!

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Originally Posted by Anda View Post

If I lived in the US, I would go for the V-link 192:

http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=MFVL192

 

 

EDIT: the Matrix X-SPDIF:
http://www.matrix-digi.com/en/products/22/index.html

 

Why get the Matrix for about $300 when all it does is output a digital signal, when you can get an amazing usb hi speed 2.0 compliant 24/192 DAC like the Micromega MYDAC for under $400?  I'm absolutely loving mine.  It takes up to 24/192 from my Squeezebox Touch and outputs a beautiful analog signal to my Burson Soloist SL or Lyr.

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So I have had my HE-500's for about a week now. I ordered them from Head-Direct and it all went very promptly.

 

I must admit I am struggling with them and trying to get a sound that I like. I am running them from a Bifrost/Asgard2 setup and I realize I am probably at the bottom end for what is required to power these.

 

The biggest issue I have is a lack of air and resolution. They have tons of dynamics, for instance listening to the new Depeche Mode album will blow you out of your chair and sounds great.

 

But I find male voices and midrange to be euphonic or unresolved and there is a big lack of air and resonance. For example classical piano sounds thick and thumping as if tonality has been traded for dynamics.

 

So if you have recommendations please post. I imagine many will mention the amp, and the only reason I didn't get the Lyr is that I thought it would be less resolving than the Asgard 2. I haven't compared them so I don't really know. One thing I did recently that was surprising is that I plugged the HE-500's straight into my Xonar Essence STX and I thought it sounded better than through the Asgard even though less dynamic. That was an unexpected surprise.

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Originally Posted by Sanlitun View Post

So I have had my HE-500's for about a week now. I ordered them from Head-Direct and it all went very promptly.

 

I must admit I am struggling with them and trying to get a sound that I like. I am running them from a Bifrost/Asgard2 setup and I realize I am probably at the bottom end for what is required to power these.

 

The biggest issue I have is a lack of air and resolution. They have tons of dynamics, for instance listening to the new Depeche Mode album will blow you out of your chair and sounds great.

 

But I find male voices and midrange to be euphonic or unresolved and there is a big lack of air and resonance. For example classical piano sounds thick and thumping as if tonality has been traded for dynamics.

 

So if you have recommendations please post. I imagine many will mention the amp, and the only reason I didn't get the Lyr is that I thought it would be less resolving than the Asgard 2. I haven't compared them so I don't really know. One thing I did recently that was surprising is that I plugged the HE-500's straight into my Xonar Essence STX and I thought it sounded better than through the Asgard even though less dynamic. That was an unexpected surprise.

 

The HE-500 can sound thick sometimes, I think due to its slightly rolled-off treble and the extremely smooth sound of the planar-magnetic drivers. What I did is I used an EQ to boost the 8k-16k range by 1db. I know some are opposed to using EQ but you would be surprised how much of a difference this minor change will make. I find that it sounds like there's a bit more air and detail. YMMV

 

Also I am using the Magni, and while I haven't heard the HE-500 on any other amps it seems to perform well. Sounds great to my ears.

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The Lyr with the stock GE tubes open up the soundstage considerably and add quite a bit more detail to the HE-500 than the original Asgard did. One thing I noticed with the Asgard was that the center soundstage seemed off center one way or another. The Lyr seems to have taken care of that also.  These are early impressions after a few nights with the Lyr (no burn in on the tubes or the amp). I had the Asgard 2 but returned it before my HE-500 arrived.


Edited by Radioking59 - 3/27/13 at 2:43pm
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I went through a couple of different desktop Amps before I found one I liked with my HE500s too. Different strokes for different folks and all. They do seem to need a bit more power than a lot of people led me to believe... I think that perception is finally changing around here now though...

post #3999 of 15266

There's a lot of good amps out there that will extend the treble out on the HE-500s some will make it to sparkly.  I've found the GS-X mk2 and the B22 are great for these..

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I wondered how they'd do on the GSX..........
post #4001 of 15266
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Originally Posted by Sanlitun View Post

So I have had my HE-500's for about a week now. I ordered them from Head-Direct and it all went very promptly.

 

I must admit I am struggling with them and trying to get a sound that I like. I am running them from a Bifrost/Asgard2 setup and I realize I am probably at the bottom end for what is required to power these.

 

The biggest issue I have is a lack of air and resolution. They have tons of dynamics, for instance listening to the new Depeche Mode album will blow you out of your chair and sounds great.

 

But I find male voices and midrange to be euphonic or unresolved and there is a big lack of air and resonance. For example classical piano sounds thick and thumping as if tonality has been traded for dynamics.

 

So if you have recommendations please post. I imagine many will mention the amp, and the only reason I didn't get the Lyr is that I thought it would be less resolving than the Asgard 2. I haven't compared them so I don't really know. One thing I did recently that was surprising is that I plugged the HE-500's straight into my Xonar Essence STX and I thought it sounded better than through the Asgard even though less dynamic. That was an unexpected surprise.

Velour pads, right?

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Originally Posted by rdaneel View Post

Why get the Matrix for about $300 when all it does is output a digital signal, when you can get an amazing usb hi speed 2.0 compliant 24/192 DAC like the Micromega MYDAC for under $400?  I'm absolutely loving mine.  It takes up to 24/192 from my Squeezebox Touch and outputs a beautiful analog signal to my Burson Soloist SL or Lyr.

 

If you had a Benchmark DAC1, why would you replace it with a budget DAC? A USB-to-SPDIF converter makes more sense (IMHO).

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I have the asgard2 have no problems sounds great airy smooth Jason at schist said that the asgard2 was as good at powering them as the lyr the difference would be if you prefer tubes
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

Velour pads, right?


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Originally Posted by tuna47 View Post

I have the asgard2 have no problems sounds great airy smooth Jason at schist said that the asgard2 was as good at powering them as the lyr the difference would be if you prefer tubes

 

Do you have a bifrost as well? I'm thinking upgrading from my Pico to Asgard or Lyr + bifrost for HE-500.

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