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post #3886 of 14586

In my experience the LCD3 extends down further and has more impact than the HE 500. Soundstage and imaging are better as well. But that is to be expected given the price difference. I wish the LCD3's were as comforable as the 500 though!

post #3887 of 14586
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Originally Posted by Pianist View Post

For those who have experience with LCD2/3 and HE-500 - does HE-500 sounds audibly less extended in the bass when listening to actual music and not test tones? I know measurements show that HE-500 seems to be flat down to about 30 Hz, before rolling off, while Audeze cans are flat to well below 20Hz. With some music that has a lot of sub bass content, I sometime wonder if HE-500 could use a bit more extension.

HE500s extend easily to 20 Hz with some simple mods (see Part VI of jergpad mod) that are based upon Audeze. IMO the main reason why Audeze bass extends so low is because of its peculiar pad mounting method, with the earpads adhering to the cup, it's really nothing special.

post #3888 of 14586
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

Overall, I would say they are the same. LCD-2 has more a punch in the mid bass area. Although HE-500's bass comes off with more bloom since it doesn't have the midbass punch to the extent that LCD-2 has. So in a way, at times the HE-500 actually feels as it has more sub-bass. You can listen and follow the low bass notes better on the HE-500. While the LCD-2 is good, the mid-bass punch somewhat masks it. Although since it sounds so good, it really doesn't better. Both do bass quite well for all music genres.

 

 

+1

 

zoom actually explained this to me in great detail before i purchased the HE-500 when i pmed him about it. tongue_smile.gif

 

i still feel like the sub-bass starts to decrease in volume/feel further back than the LCD-2 at times, but the LCD-2 are like that at times as well. either way, they still both go down very low and have amazing punch and slam that planar headphones are known for. 


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 3/22/13 at 12:38pm
post #3889 of 14586

the bass on the he-500 has great extension.  I can't really imagine it going much lower? I've certainly never felt like I was missing any information.  I don't have a ton of experience with the LCD2 but I never felt like it was any more or less revealing in the lower range.  It's a matter of preference.  I feel I could enjoy both headphones just as well.

post #3890 of 14586

I pretty happy with the way my HE500 sounds with Lyr and BB in them but I want just that little bit of sub bass for some songs.

 

So here my question how much better is the sub bass on the LCD2 compare to the HE500? 

post #3891 of 14586

they're very similar. HE 500 has more bloom and seems to have more presence than LCD-2, but LCD-2 goes deeper by a bit, its really hard to say. if u wanted sub-bass, theres the D7000, completely unmatched by any other headphone in this price range when it comes to sub-bass. only bettered by the TH-900

post #3892 of 14586

There is just something about Denon phones that I'm not a fan of. I auditioned the LCD-2 fairly quickly and first thing I noticed was that very textured lower end bass and intimate sound stage compared to the HE500 which has amazing mid bass/slams and open, airy sound stage.

 

I guess the real question is that when I buy the LCD2, will I have to make the choice of keeping one or the other since their so similar to each other or will they compliment each other nicely?

post #3893 of 14586
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Originally Posted by simple flow View Post

There is just something about Denon phones that I'm not a fan of. I auditioned the LCD-2 fairly quickly and first thing I noticed was that very textured lower end bass and intimate sound stage compared to the HE500 which has amazing mid bass/slams and open, airy sound stage.

 

I guess the real question is that when I buy the LCD2, will I have to make the choice of keeping one or the other since their so similar to each other or will they compliment each other nicely?

I got to audition both the LCD and the HE-500's for a few days and found that the LCD may have had a little more bass but had noticeably less top end to my ears. Not that they were lacking, but certainly had less treble. 

post #3894 of 14586
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Originally Posted by roadcykler View Post

I got to audition both the LCD and the HE-500's for a few days and found that the LCD may have had a little more bass but had noticeably less top end to my ears. Not that they were lacking, but certainly had less treble. 


I agree with the treble part but when I was A/B it felt like the LCD had quite a bit more bass. I think I need to A/B them again at the shop.

post #3895 of 14586

Were they matched in volume, same amp, same song/music, etc?

post #3896 of 14586

Yes. The store had a CD player hooked up to Bifrost/Lyr. It is all from memory so I need to go A/B them again.

post #3897 of 14586
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

they're very similar. HE 500 has more bloom and seems to have more presence than LCD-2, but LCD-2 goes deeper by a bit, its really hard to say. if u wanted sub-bass, theres the D7000, completely unmatched by any other headphone in this price range when it comes to sub-bass. only bettered by the TH-900

 

what she said.

 

 

Also people having problems with treble on LCD-2. Try a speaker amp with silver cables - still not HE-500 but much closer to it.

post #3898 of 14586

The characteristics of the HE-500 or the LCD2 seem dependent on the associated equipment.  Some have reported either liking one or the other better based on the associated amp.  Both great cans it seems.  Economically, the HE-500 wins...IMHO.  When wearing the HE-500's I could forget I am wearing a phone (and listening to my full-system), if it were not for the fact that any move of my head from vertical invokes the force of gravity on the puppies.  I have little to no experience with the LCD2.  But, my HE-500's are a completely different animal on my Soloist amp versus my previous amp (Shiit Lyr).  The Lyr did not have the control or texture of the Soloist.  My Lyr had good bass, but I could not dial it in.  Depending on the tubes, it was either too lean or too woolly.  Maybe the LCD2 handles that variance better.    

post #3899 of 14586

The bass on the HE500s responds very well to amping.  It can sound boomy, bloomy and loose or tight, precise, and punchy.  Look elsewhere if you need sub-bass.

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Originally Posted by rezolver View Post

The bass on the HE500s responds very well to amping.  It can sound boomy, bloomy and loose or tight, precise, and punchy.  Look elsewhere if you need sub-bass.

 

+1

 

better amps will control the HE-500 bass better. same for the LCD-2, though not as much

 

HE-500 is not a headphone for sub-bass, rather clean tight natural sounding bass, good midbass, and most of the sound is focused on the mids and the super smooth treble.

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