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Just by using my govibe magnum which can output 130mW into 32ohms, I can drive He-500 to very high volume levels. I have to crank up the knob a lot though. Although it can get loud, the flavor is not there.But when I drive He-500 with Asgard, it starts to spread wings. Driven by Lyr, it sings better, fuller and richer. I think the key is that one will need a amp that can satisfy the power requirements of He-500, and of a good quality. Power alone will not do much good, must be a good amp too.

post #3842 of 18021
Of course o2 is loud enough but it sounds thin and no bass oomph.

I'm using an o2 and I'm looking for a one watter.
post #3843 of 18021

the thing is learned with O2 vs the nfb-11.32 is that power does not mean higher volume. When i bought the 11.32 which was more than twice the power of my fiio e9, i was confused as the e9 sounded almost twice as loud even at low gain compared to the 11.32's high gain. But it distorted and was just not a good enough amp to power the he500. O2 was a little less powerful than the fiio e9 but also distorted a lot less but at high volumes it is still slightly distorted and grainy. I don't know much about these things but i always thought higher power is higher volume, but it did not turn out to be so. Maybe it is higher voltage compared to higher current. Anyhow, in my experience, the O2 is not good for the he500, atleast for high volumes.

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I like my HE-400's so much that I think I'm going to get a pair of the 500's sometime in the hopefully near future.  I've been all about IEM's but now I've heard a good open-back headphone I'm loving the sound of them and now my IEM's with a good sized soundstage sound small.

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This is me; not reading the thread because you guys are in a cycle of repetition that appears to repeat itself once a week.

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I have the new asgard2 more power than the asgard sounds great very full plenty bass Jason at schist said it drives the he500 as well as lyre it's just if you prefer tubes or not
post #3847 of 18021
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Originally Posted by 28980 View Post

This is me; not reading the thread because you guys are in a cycle of repetition that appears to repeat itself once a week.

+1iagree with u...maybe some heaf'ers also have same kind of montly problem as girls have and then get ugly and stubborn? Oops very_evil_smiley.gif

 

.justto make clear..ANY amp..even a 10 usd amp CAN drive the he500...but the he500 WONT sound as he should be..no matter how loud u can put the volume...pls..let this go..the battle between o2 followers and others always ends in bloodshed..those people believe that being ableto get the he500 playing loud means it can drive it well..and most of us know its not about playing loud...the o2 does wonders i believe with other cans..like the emotiva..another budget amp..but guys..in the name of peace..we all agree that u can do better..but yeah..u have to invest some..like me..i spend almost 1000 usd by now in my 337..but i have yet to come across an amp who betters it under 1000usd r even more with the he500...and its a 2x1 watt mono monster of 18kg.

so pls. Let us stop this yes no debate..s the o2 followers wont believe that o2 is not good match for he500...lets say this..as long they like how the o2 sounds like with the he5oo then its oke..but we all know what they could be missing out.i myself had the mstage and i loved it..and it drove my he500 very well to my ears..i defended the little body with my teeth..but when accidentely heard the 337..my god..as if my life openeded up..i heard music in a way i didnt find possible..so i know where o2 followers are coming from...peace!

 

and...pls dont start mentioning names just because one doesnt agree with u....TROLL anyone? We dont appreciate this kind of behavior..and i saw a few  threads being closed by the administrators because if that!!! So pls keep it civilized..we are all friends here..and not in some kind of arena showing whos best...beerchug.gif


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/19/13 at 1:43pm
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Invariably, I mention that the O2 doesn't drive the HE-500 and at some point an O2 fan attacks me.

Should I stop telling people who ask about the HE-500 and O2 that the O2 is insufficient? I'm not going out of my way to do it - there's a revived O2 thread in the Amps forum and its not like I've jumped in that thread and started crapping all over the O2 there.
post #3849 of 18021
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Originally Posted by disastermouse View Post

Invariably, I mention that the O2 doesn't drive the HE-500 and at some point an O2 fan attacks me.

Should I stop telling people who ask about the HE-500 and O2 that the O2 is insufficient? I'm not going out of my way to do it - there's a revived O2 thread in the Amps forum and its not like I've jumped in that thread and started crapping all over the O2 there.

I agree..but dont u worry..i see these kind of followers ( especially cable brand followers!!) bashing on other threads trying to force others into their corners with sometimes agressive force..in words i mean or statistics..eventhough they know deep intheir heads most peope dont agree with them..they still keep coming back..i am not here to bash them back...i am very direct in myposts also..i admit..but iwont ever bash another brand or person if i think they are..sh..t...thats disrespectful..yes i love to debate bout the good and less good things of stuff i owned or own or tried out.....everyone knows that by now..so..everyone is free to their opinion..and discussing is healthy..but..if u never ever really tried something else then for instance an o2 with ur he500 and then state its perfect for he500 isin my opinion narrowminded..

 

i would advice..try one of the amps thats considered good with the he500.. Like 337/339/emotiva/v200/lyr which i tried myself..am sure others will do fine also..but search on the net and forums..and then try them out..compare them then with ur o2..and then be honest to urself.

 

.i did same thing..i thought the mstage was a giant killer..and istill think that..but it was blown away by my 337 pairing with the he500..and i hated tubes!! Can u imagine that?

 

But i was open for improvement..and so would anyone of u..even lyr followers who say the same thing as o2 followers...i tell them..try the 337..u will be surprised..am now in the proces to have something that will blow the 337 out of water...something very special..custommade.a combo of headphone amp with dac with external powersupply...it will be expensive..poor walletbiggrin.gif and it will be ss again..

 

So its good to know i can sell my wonderful 337 with the tubes i have and my excellent hm602 pretty easy when the time comes..

 

and ofcourse girls and guys..all IMHO...ofcourse!!!!


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/19/13 at 2:08pm
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Just "IMO" at the end of your statement.  

 

That's what I dobiggrin.gif

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Just "IMO" at the end of your statement.  

 

That's what I dobiggrin.gif

Allthough people who know me by now know its always imho if i say things..but thanks for the tip..i edited it..just in case.biggrin.gif

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But i was open for improvement..and so would anyone of u..even lyr followers who say the same thing as o2 followers...i tell them..try the 337..u will be surprised..

 

I have, and I still prefer the Lyr(E188cc La Radiotecnique tubes) over the 337 with my He-500s.

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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post

I have, and I still prefer the Lyr(E188cc La Radiotecnique tubes) over the 337 with my He-500s.

Yep i know..the 337 story with standard tubes compared to a lyr completely perfectly tuberolled right? I think i once said on a reply on this: try the 337 with tungsols 5998 as powertubes and the tungsols sj7gt mesh plates as drivers..and ur opinion COULD change in favor of the 337.. Imho the 337 only starts to shine AFTER tuberolling..its an investment i know..but when u have the right pairs..well..its up to u then to decide what amp can better that even close of what u spend on 337 + right tubes..imho ofcourse..but we both had this debate on a different thread also if i am not wrong..lyr is a good amp with the right expensive tubes..the 337 is league higher is ur wiling to spend around 350usd on the right driver-powertubes..imho ofcourse..and then u have to check the 339 thread..i read there that u can modify the 337 or especially the 339 to an amp-headphone combination that could give the sennheiser orpheus a run for his money..and that costs more then 10.000 usd! With the 337/339 its all about what ur priorities are

and another thing i found out..the first versions of the 337 were not well designed to drive low impedance phones..only last models were modified to handle that better..check google..u will see pics of the 4 models..i happen to have lastmodel with the upgraded capacitators..that makes a huge difference also...

but as i said..if u love ur lyr..not even a million buck will change u back to the 337..as u mind says its not worth it..and i respect that.

 

but pls..check the 339 threadbefore u again say u prefer the lyr above ur bog standard 337..as thats comparing a bmw m3 GT to a audi s3.. Both are fast cars..only first one is modified to go as fast as u dare to go...in corners and straights...the other is just a 'regular' fast car..its perfect quality..but nothing special for the money it costs compared to other german fast cars.

imho ofcourse..and dont forget..i respect ur opinion..as long its based on a fair comparision...otherwise its not really interesting to know to be honest..its only giving false info..come back if u tried the 337 with good tubes..and then i take ur word that u love the lyr more then the 337 with the he500...oops..hope i am not sounding to agressive now..my apologies..i just dont like people saying things about products u cant compare.or ur compare both amps virgin..or u compare two amps on their best..

thats nothing more then fair right?biggrin.gif


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/19/13 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Yep i know..the 337 story with standard tubes compared to a lyr completely perfectly tuberolled right? I think i once said on a reply on this: try the 337 with tungsols 5998 as powertubes and the tungsols sj7gt mesh plates as drivers..and ur opinion COULD change in favor of the 337.. Imho the 337 only starts to shine AFTER tuberolling..its an investment i know..but when u have the right pairs..well..its up to u then to decide what amp can better that even close of what u spend on 337 + right tubes..imho ofcourse..but we both had this debate on a different thread also if i am not wrong..lyr is a good amp with the right expensive tubes..the 337 is league higher is ur wiling to spend around 350usd on the right driver-powertubes..imho ofcourse..and then u have to check the 339 thread..i read there that u can modify the 337 or especially the 339 to an amp-headphone combination that could give the sennheiser orpheus a run for his money..and that costs more then 10.000 usd! With the 337/339 its all about what ur priorities are
and another thing i found out..the first versions of the 337 were not well designed to drive low impedance phones..only last models were modified to handle that better..check google..u will see pics of the 4 models..i happen to have lastmodel with the upgraded capacitators..that makes a huge difference also...
but as i said..if u love ur lyr..not even a million buck will change u back to the 337..as u mind says its not worth it..and i respect that.

but pls..check the 339 threadbefore u again say u prefer the lyr above ur bog standard 337..as thats comparing a bmw m3 GT to a audi s3.. Both are fast cars..only first one is modified to go as fast as u dare to go...in corners and straights...the other is just a 'regular' fast car..its perfect quality..but nothing special for the money it costs compared to other german fast cars.
imho ofcourse..and dont forget..i respect ur opinion..as long its based on a fair comparision...otherwise its not really interesting to know to be honest..its only giving false info..come back if u tried the 337 with good tubes..and then i take ur word that u love the lyr more then the 337 with the he500...oops..hope i am not sounding to agressive now..my apologies..i just dont like people saying things about products u cant compare.or ur compare both amps virgin..or u compare two amps on their best..
thats nothing more then fair right?biggrin.gif
337 wasn't even on my radar! My wallet curses you!

Although, I have Stax ambitions..
post #3855 of 18021
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Although, I have Stax ambitions..

 

I am running the Omega system through the O2, and according to the math, the headphones are getting loud enough, fantastic combo!  Hehehe, just kidding.

 

Anyway, I am reaching close to 100 hrs on the He500.  I have heard that they should start to open up.  Well so far I have noticed, the sound has become more centralised or in other words, more defined in the centre.  The LF339 is settling down as well, so I am not sure if it's the He500 finishing their burn-in period, or the amp setting down or both.  But, I like what I hear.  

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