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You compared them speed-wise to Stax and HD800 - two types of cans that are said to excel at soundstage.

Listening to fast classical, the soundstage is a bit of a setback for the HE-500. I am beginning to like classical violin and when listening with the HE-500, I feel like I'm sitting in the violinist's lap. Nonetheless, it handles the speed and dynamic range pretty well.

 

Coz they are the fastest =p. Other honourable mentions are K340, AD2000 and maybe the Sony SA5000. Soundstage is the weak point of orthos (even the he-6 or 5le) - again not to say that they're bad at soundstage/image; just that the imaging can't compete with the 800 and especially Stax).

 

 

 

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Hey guys I'm new here, I just got the HE-500, how high should the highs be on these? I listen to quite a bit of Jpop and the is a lot of "sss" and "tsss" pronunciation in their lyrics. Even on half volume they are still sort ear piercing. Are my headphones defective or do I just need burn in?

 

Maybe your dac/amp is clipping (run out of power). The He500 is very forgiving to sibilance. Even my badly-recorded, ear-shredding static noise black metal still isn't piercing with the 500.

post #3767 of 14101
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Coz they are the fastest =p. Other honourable mentions are K340, AD2000 and maybe the Sony SA5000. Soundstage is the weak point of orthos (even the he-6 or 5le) - again not to say that they're bad at soundstage/image; just that the imaging can't compete with the 800 and especially Stax).

 

 

 

 

Maybe your dac/amp is clipping (run out of power). The He500 is very forgiving to sibilance. Even my badly-recorded, ear-shredding static noise black metal still isn't piercing with the 500.

I don't think so. It's plugged directly into wall and I haven't flipped on any of the gain switches on my Aune T1. It's the same on my styleaudio Carat HD1V. It could simply be the music I listen to. Try listening to Sugar Sweet Nightmare by Yui Horie.

post #3768 of 14101

to someone digging the re-272 sound (bright and analytical , yet not fatiguing) , would he enjoy the HE-400 or the HE-500 more ?

post #3769 of 14101
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Originally Posted by Ravaholm View Post

Hey guys I'm new here, I just got the HE-500, how high should the highs be on these? I listen to quite a bit of Jpop and the is a lot of "sss" and "tsss" pronunciation in their lyrics. Even on half volume they are still sort ear piercing. Are my headphones defective or do I just need burn in?

EDIT: I use an Aune T1 amp/dac with an OTK NOS Voskhod 6n23p tube.

Try a different amp..am almost sure the sss will dissapear..as planars dont do to well with tube amps because of lack of power and drive...onej of the few tube amps i know of who does drive he500 well and is reasonable priced is the dv 337 or lafigaro 339..ucan also try a hybrid..like the shiit lyr.


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/16/13 at 3:53pm
post #3770 of 14101
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Try a different amp..am almost sure the sss will dissapear..as planars dont do to well with tube amps because of lack of power and drive...onej of the few tube amps i know of who does drive he500 well and is reasonable priced is the dv 337 or lafigaro 339..ucan also try a hybrid..like the shiit lyr.

 

I have. A Styleaudio Carat HD1V. I'm starting to think it's the actual music and not the headphones because everthing else sounds fine except when a jpop singer pronounces anything with an S in it. Sugar Sweet Nightmare by Yui Horie has a lot of SSSS and TSSSSS pronunciations in it.

post #3771 of 14101
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Originally Posted by Ravaholm View Post

Hey guys I'm new here, I just got the HE-500, how high should the highs be on these? I listen to quite a bit of Jpop and the is a lot of "sss" and "tsss" pronunciation in their lyrics. Even on half volume they are still sort ear piercing. Are my headphones defective or do I just need burn in?

EDIT: I use an Aune T1 amp/dac with an OTK NOS Voskhod 6n23p tube.

 

Burn in will improve them. Some people will tell you it will help, while some will say it won't. Although most people that have compared a well burned in HE-500 to a fresh out of the box HE-500, like me, usually find a noticeable difference after burn in. 

post #3772 of 14101
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Originally Posted by Ravaholm View Post

 

I have. A Styleaudio Carat HD1V. I'm starting to think it's the actual music and not the headphones because everthing else sounds fine except when a jpop singer pronounces anything with an S in it. Sugar Sweet Nightmare by Yui Horie has a lot of SSSS and TSSSSS pronunciations in it.

 

Strange, I have just tried the song with my HE500 and I don't hear sibilance on my setup. The HE500 seem to be forgiving when it comes to sibilance even on recordings that are known to be sibilant for e.g, Massive Attack - Teardrop, it's not that noticeable. If you think the HE500 are sibilant, you should try the DT990 biggrin.gif

post #3773 of 14101
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Burn in will improve them. Some people will tell you it will help, while some will say it won't. Although most people that have compared a well burned in HE-500 to a fresh out of the box HE-500, like me, usually find a noticeable difference after burn in. 

 

Yeah I only have like 10 hours of burn in. Should burn in be high or low or listening volume to ease off highs?

post #3774 of 14101
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Try a different amp..am almost sure the sss will dissapear..as planars dont do to well with tube amps because of lack of power and drive...onej of the few tube amps i know of who does drive he500 well and is reasonable priced is the dv 337 or lafigaro 339..ucan also try a hybrid..like the shiit lyr.

The "tss" is still apparent in the Lyr.

 

It doesn't bother me as much but it is still there.

 

This is why i inquired if a copper cable would tame that "tss"

 

I am also using a Bifrost as a DAC.

post #3775 of 14101

Does the "tss" appear on your other headphones paired with the LYR as well?

post #3776 of 14101

highest performance/cost ratio headphones on the market. Relatively easy to drive as well. Best vocal in sub 1500 headphones. I prefer these over the largely appreciated LCD2, also the beyerdynamic T1


Edited by czqdtc - 3/16/13 at 5:33pm
post #3777 of 14101
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Strange, I have just tried the song with my HE500 and I don't hear sibilance on my setup. The HE500 seem to be forgiving when it comes to sibilance even on recordings that are known to be sibilant for e.g, Massive Attack - Teardrop, it's not that noticeable. If you think the HE500 are sibilant, you should try the DT990 biggrin.gif

 


Funny. I don't find the sibilance on Tear drop as harsh as Sugar Sweet Nightmare. I'll try a 200 hour burn in. see if that helps. I don't mind Sibilance as long as it's not super ear piercing as I find with japanese female vocals on my fresh HE-500s

post #3778 of 14101
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Originally Posted by spark3 View Post

 

Strange, I have just tried the song with my HE500 and I don't hear sibilance on my setup. The HE500 seem to be forgiving when it comes to sibilance even on recordings that are known to be sibilant for e.g, Massive Attack - Teardrop, it's not that noticeable. If you think the HE500 are sibilant, you should try the DT990 biggrin.gif

 

I think it's just a few songs in my library that are harsh on the Sibilance. I just listened to Perfect Slumbers also by Yui Horie, not even nearly as harsh as sugar sweet nightmare.

post #3779 of 14101
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Originally Posted by Ravaholm View Post

 

Yeah I only have like 10 hours of burn in. Should burn in be high or low or listening volume to ease off highs?

 

My pair was fully burned in after 100 hours.

 

Are you asking if you should burn in high volume or low volume to make the highs better OR whether burn in makes the highs better and so you can listen at lower/higher volume?

 

Well just to cover them both, burn in at a volume slightly higher than what you are used to. Just have music playing through them and leave it on. I usually checked in every 6 hours for the first 35 hours because they were annoying to listen to. After that I just listened and burned it in at the same time. The odd peaks and dips in the treble should get quite better after a while.

 

Overall, with my burned in HE-500, you can listen to music at high or low volume and the treble doesn't really get that aggressive. The vocals come out a bit more with volume and the bass blooms a bit more.   

post #3780 of 14101
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My pair was fully burned in after 100 hours.

 

Are you asking if you should burn in high volume or low volume to make the highs better OR whether burn in makes the highs better and so you can listen at lower/higher volume?

 

Well just to cover them both, burn in at a volume slightly higher than what you are used to. Just have music playing through them and leave it on. I usually checked in every 6 hours for the first 35 hours because they were annoying to listen to. After that I just listened and burned it in at the same time. The odd peaks and dips in the treble should get quite better after a while.

 

Overall, with my burned in HE-500, you can listen to music at high or low volume and the treble doesn't really get that aggressive. The vocals come out a bit more with volume and the bass blooms a bit more.   

 

Cheers. Wait do I leave it on for 100 hours straight? not sure if that woul make my tube explode.

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