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post #3616 of 14283

Likewise, relative to denons, HE500 is not bright to my ears. But they don't sound warm to my ears as well. Which is why I chose them. If they were as warm as HD650, which I've tried before, I wouldn't keep them. YMMV.
 

post #3617 of 14283
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Bright relative to what ?

Coming from Sennheiser HD-650, they were bright to my ears. I find them a little brighter from Akg-K701also The T1 can be bright. They are not as warm as the 650 but overall a much better headphone iMO than the hd650 but its not for everyone perhaps you might like the lcd2.2 better. 

I found the akg too bright and never thought the he500 was considered bright and from ti,me to time the T1 las can be bright. I found the HE500 to be warmer than the AKG and HD650 but everyone has different taste. The he500 IMO is a better headphone than the hd650 and you may prefer the lcs2.2 which never sou nd sbright and is more on a maggie planar type of sound,

post #3618 of 14283
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I found the akg too bright and never thought the he500 was considered bright and from ti,me to time the T1 las can be bright. I found the HE500 to be warmer than the AKG and HD650 but everyone has different taste. The he500 IMO is a better headphone than the hd650 and you may prefer the lcs2.2 which never sou nd sbright and is more on a maggie planar type of sound,

I also found the HE500 better than the HD650 overall. As to which of the 2 is warmer, we can agree to disagree wink.gif

post #3619 of 14283
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I found the akg too bright and never thought the he500 was considered bright and from ti,me to time the T1 las can be bright. I found the HE500 to be warmer than the AKG and HD650 but everyone has different taste. The he500 IMO is a better headphone than the hd650 and you may prefer the lcs2.2 which never sou nd sbright and is more on a maggie planar type of sound,

 

Frank.  If you ever get a chance.  Try the AKG 702 65th Anniversary Edition. 

post #3620 of 14283
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I also found the HE500 better than the HD650 overall. As to which of the 2 is warmer, we can agree to disagree wink.gif

the hd650 is more toward the lcd2.2. tone IMO

post #3621 of 14283
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Frank.  If you ever get a chance.  Try the AKG 702 65th Anniversary Edition. 

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post #3622 of 14283

HE-500 sounds a little bright after listening to the Mad Dogs.  They don't sound bright at all after listening to the Beyer T1s.  I think they have the perfect brightness to let you hear all the detail without accosting your ears from a less than stellar recording.

post #3623 of 14283

HE500s are definitely a tad bright(er than perfectly natural to me) with velour pads, yet a tad too dark / "dim" with stock pleather pads.

post #3624 of 14283
After the Akg 702 they are not bright also much brighter than 650 which is good
post #3625 of 14283

The HD-650, when driven properly, can sound wonderful.  Detailed, musical and balanced.  Not dark at all.  

 

Ironically, I discovered this when driving them with the Darkvoice 337!  : )

post #3626 of 14283
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HE-500 sounds a little bright after listening to the Mad Dogs.  They don't sound bright at all after listening to the Beyer T1s.  I think they have the perfect brightness to let you hear all the detail without accosting your ears from a less than stellar recording.
This. Less foggy than the HD650, better decays, narrower but more precise imaging. IMHO.
post #3627 of 14283

Luckily for me I really don't like a lot of bass! I have passed over the bass-loving phase and now I just want something that emphasizes the mids and treble, so brighter headphones are what I'm after (NOT Grado bright. I can't listen to those damn things for 15 minutes without fatiguing. I had the RS2i). I do admit that my ears get tired of them after around 3 hours because of the extra brightness, so I use my DT 770 PRO 250 ohm mostly and switch to the T70 when I want a "treble treat" if you may :) The HE-500 are my go-to headphones when I want a complete, in-home, low-distortion sort of listening experience. I use a tube-amp with them and would prefer a solid-state to bring out the details a bit more, but I'm not made of money!

 

I don't find the HE-500 that bright OR that dark. They kinda sit right in the middle for me and therefore are not dark enough to be boring and not bright enough to be fatiguing. Truly a nice experience. The only problem is I am out of the house 90% of the time, so I can't very well bring them around town, so I stick with the T70 and DT770 mostly. I'm moving up to the T5p in the next few months because I'm a BIG Beyerdynamic fan, so that will be a treat. The T5ps are still brighter than some are used to (Especially those HD650 and LCD-2 lovers) but their "Beyer peak" is nowhere near as formidable than the T70s, so I should be able to use them for hours without discomfort.

 

Just goes to show how incredible subjective Hi-Fi is! Cheers! beerchug.gif

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Luckily for me I really don't like a lot of bass! I have passed over the bass-loving phase and now I just want something that emphasizes the mids and treble, so brighter headphones are what I'm after (NOT Grado bright. I can't listen to those damn things for 15 minutes without fatiguing. I had the RS2i). I do admit that my ears get tired of them after around 3 hours because of the extra brightness, so I use my DT 770 PRO 250 ohm mostly and switch to the T70 when I want a "treble treat" if you may :) The HE-500 are my go-to headphones when I want a complete, in-home, low-distortion sort of listening experience. I use a tube-amp with them and would prefer a solid-state to bring out the details a bit more, but I'm not made of money!

 

I don't find the HE-500 that bright OR that dark. They kinda sit right in the middle for me and therefore are not dark enough to be boring and not bright enough to be fatiguing. Truly a nice experience. The only problem is I am out of the house 90% of the time, so I can't very well bring them around town, so I stick with the T70 and DT770 mostly. I'm moving up to the T5p in the next few months because I'm a BIG Beyerdynamic fan, so that will be a treat. The T5ps are still brighter than some are used to (Especially those HD650 and LCD-2 lovers) but their "Beyer peak" is nowhere near as formidable than the T70s, so I should be able to use them for hours without discomfort.

 

Just goes to show how incredible subjective Hi-Fi is! Cheers! beerchug.gif

T5ps don't measure too good though, hope your subjective impression will be better.

 

 

 

 

 

(HE500's measurement, by comparison)

post #3629 of 14283
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Originally Posted by i019791 View Post

I I have this cable and it pairs nicely with HE500. It is much better build than the default silver coated HE500 cable.

Do not expect it to tame the HE500 brightness. Instead go for equalizing or for warmer upstream gear.

 

Is there any noticeable difference between the stock and the toxic cable?

 

I don't really mind the brightness so much but i think it would sound better if it was mellowed out just a little bit. 

post #3630 of 14283
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T5ps don't measure too good though, hope your subjective impression will be better.

 

 

 

 

 

(HE500's measurement, by comparison)

I auditioned the T5p once and my subjective listening quite matched the waterfall plots there. Lots of resonance and ringing across the whole spectrum although I didn't expected to be that bad on the graphs. It sounded like you were listening music in a reverberating hall. Not my cup of tea and for $1300, absolutely no way will I consider a T5p.

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