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Originally Posted by rezolver View Post

Congrats on the purchase DG. How's the synergy so far between them and the WA6?

 

its WA6-SE btw.

seems pretty good so far, its a little bright right now though, but im sure burn in + a better cable will improve that. gotta tube roll later.

post #3422 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

its WA6-SE btw.

seems pretty good so far, its a little bright right now though, but im sure burn in + a better cable will improve that. gotta tube roll later.

Dubstep Girl. Are you actually a Girl? I can never tell around here with all the female Avatars. It would seem there are a lot of women on this site (which seems odd under the circumstances) or there are a lot of guys that want people to think they are girls? I guess that's one way to make sure you aren't ignored...  tongue.gif


Edited by bareyb - 3/1/13 at 3:44pm
post #3423 of 18030
Just to be clear, I didn't make my comment because of a statement along the lines of "I don't like the sound of this amp with this headphone." My point was that he didn't even get the setup working properly in the fist place. There was no judgement to be made. Therefore I didn't think it was fair to give out sound opinions.

I'm glad you like the Magni with the HE-500. Happy you found something that works for you.
Edited by Shazb0t - 3/1/13 at 4:09pm
post #3424 of 18030
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Originally Posted by HKUSP View Post

I currently own the HE-500, O2 amp, and the RSA SR-71B amp. Even before I went balanced with the SR-71B, I did a short test comparing the two amps running single ended. I found the O2 amp significantly reduced the bass, especially the velvety feel of that bass. It wasn't necessarily bad, and this part is purely subjective, but it seemed to take away from what makes the HE-500 what it is. I didn't test it, but my thought is that the O2 amp might be a good fit for the HE-500 if you like classical music.

 

Running balanced on the SR-71B, it completely blows away the sound running single ended, in large part because the power is doubled. In my opinion, the O2 is not the best amp to match with the HE-500. I didn't like it at all. I did find the O2 amp to pair very well with the V-Moda M-100 because it addressed the vertical sound stage issue, but I returned that to Amazon after hearing the HE-500.

 

The extra power going into the HE-500 matters and by a big margin. 

 

An important note to make: in hindsight, I don't even know the power output of the 71B as I can't find it anywhere. All I know is that the power is doubled running balanced. I believe the O2 amp is 2W? Regardless, even running single ended, the 71B sounded better. I even liked the sound with no amp over the O2. The sound was very sterile. 

I really think the differences in sound due to amping is overblown.  I have run my HE-500s out of SS and tube amps, single ended and balanced, 200mw up to 2W per channel.  The differences were subtle.  Nothing had severe bass roll off, no sterile sound.  No blowing completely away.  They definitely sounded best out of my balanced tube amp, but I really think that is more due to the topology of the amp and the sound signature than any of the other differences.  And the margin was still small.  The O2 is neither as good nor as bad as a lot of people try to make it out.  And these headphones don' HAVE to have stupid amounts of power to sound their best.  

post #3425 of 18030
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Originally Posted by bareyb View Post

Dubstep Girl. Are you actually a Girl? I can never tell around here with all the female Avatars. It would seem there are a lot of women on this site (which seems odd under the circumstances) or there are a lot of guys that want people to think they are girls? I guess that's one way to make sure you aren't ignored...  tongue.gif

 

yes, yes, maybe, and of course wink.gif

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listening to my HE-500 right now, really liking them. decided to grab a norse audio cable from someone in the FS/FT forums.

 

using the pleather pads right now cause i feel the velours, while better, do lean to the brighter side slightly, and are flatter than the pleathers, which makes my ears touch the drivers and makes it uncomfortable. the pleathers are much more comfortable. the black cloth over the pads also seems to be quite delicate, my nail already tearing a small piece on one of them. at least they're cheap to replace though.

 

i really like the bass on the he-500 with the pleathers. if anyone knows if i can buy some better pads though, pm me! 

 

anyways, as for my impressions the sound overall is very well balanced and quite musical, i can feel it slowly improving with burn-in, the first few minutes where terrible, but its opening up alot. im sure they'll get much better since i had a similar experience with i first bought my LCD-2.

 

anyways, these are keepers. they sound quite similar to the beyerdynamic T1, though a bit more bass and a more forgiving midrange. there might be less detail though. but overall its hard to say. definitely world class headphones, they're right on par with the T1, HD 800, LCD-2. 

post #3427 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

yes, yes, maybe, and of course wink.gif

That's what I thought. Thanks for clarifying. tongue.gif

post #3428 of 18030
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Originally Posted by HKUSP View Post

 

 

 

Running balanced on the SR-71B, it completely blows away the sound running single ended, in large part because the power is doubled. In my opinion, the O2 is not the best amp to match with the HE-500. I didn't like it at all. I did find the O2 amp to pair very well with the V-Moda M-100 because it addressed the vertical sound stage issue, but I returned that to Amazon after hearing the HE-500.

 

The extra power going into the HE-500 matters and by a big margin. 

 

 

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong but running balanced does not increase the power, it increases the gain.  It's usually 6db louder than single ended but it is not more powerful.  Running balanced is a pro tool to reduce hum in long runs of cable.  Does it sound better, possibly.  Does it sound louder, usually, and usually louder seems better.


Edited by bbophead - 3/1/13 at 4:31pm
post #3429 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

listening to my HE-500 right now, really liking them. decided to grab a norse audio cable from someone in the FS/FT forums.

 

using the pleather pads right now cause i feel the velours, while better, do lean to the brighter side slightly, and are flatter than the pleathers, which makes my ears touch the drivers and makes it uncomfortable. the pleathers are much more comfortable. the black cloth over the pads also seems to be quite delicate, my nail already tearing a small piece on one of them. at least they're cheap to replace though.

 

i really like the bass on the he-500 with the pleathers. if anyone knows if i can buy some better pads though, pm me! 

 

anyways, as for my impressions the sound overall is very well balanced and quite musical, i can feel it slowly improving with burn-in, the first few minutes where terrible, but its opening up alot. im sure they'll get much better since i had a similar experience with i first bought my LCD-2.

 

anyways, these are keepers. they sound quite similar to the beyerdynamic T1, though a bit more bass and a more forgiving midrange. there might be less detail though. but overall its hard to say. definitely world class headphones, they're right on par with the T1, HD 800, LCD-2. 

I would say..if u have the balls..try the jerg v2 mod..but as ur a lady i would say: get ur high heels going and do the mod..very_evil_smiley.gifoops.. Kidding!! Seriously..i heared good things bout that mod...its the best of two worlds iunderstand.

post #3430 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

listening to my HE-500 right now, really liking them. decided to grab a norse audio cable from someone in the FS/FT forums.

 

using the pleather pads right now cause i feel the velours, while better, do lean to the brighter side slightly, and are flatter than the pleathers, which makes my ears touch the drivers and makes it uncomfortable. the pleathers are much more comfortable. the black cloth over the pads also seems to be quite delicate, my nail already tearing a small piece on one of them. at least they're cheap to replace though.

 

i really like the bass on the he-500 with the pleathers. if anyone knows if i can buy some better pads though, pm me! 

 

anyways, as for my impressions the sound overall is very well balanced and quite musical, i can feel it slowly improving with burn-in, the first few minutes where terrible, but its opening up alot. im sure they'll get much better since i had a similar experience with i first bought my LCD-2.

 

anyways, these are keepers. they sound quite similar to the beyerdynamic T1, though a bit more bass and a more forgiving midrange. there might be less detail though. but overall its hard to say. definitely world class headphones, they're right on par with the T1, HD 800, LCD-2. 

They will transform when you get the new cable at least they did for me when Ih ad them here last week, I also think that SP copper cable really is holding back rather than helping them IMO

post #3431 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

They will transform when you get the new cable at least they did for me when Ih ad them here last week, I also think that SP copper cable really is holding back rather than helping them IMO

Try a good stranded litz 2 coppercable with 22awg..i have one and it complements the sounds through the velours pads on my he500

post #3432 of 18030
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Try a good stranded litz 2 coppercable with 22awg..i have one and it complements the sounds through the velours pads on my he500

I trie three of them on the he500 but went with the lcd2 . I had the 650.00 Reveire for the he500 from cable pro a litz design so it was not becaus eof the cable I sent ttem back it wa sbecause the lcd 2.2. worked better for me as I also have the hd800. I had said if I did not own the hd800 I would kept both planar but  very happy with my gear.


Edited by Frank I - 3/1/13 at 4:52pm
post #3433 of 18030
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

I would say..if u have the balls..try the jerg v2 mod..but as ur a lady i would say: get ur high heels going and do the mod..very_evil_smiley.gifoops.. Kidding!! Seriously..i heared good things bout that mod...its the best of two worlds iunderstand.

 

i would but i have no DIY skills

 

thats why i was looking to see if anyone knew of a place/someone that sold better pads for he-500.

 

my velours are way too flat to be comfortable (they came on  top of the headphones in the case, i think they got kinda crushed, they look fine now but they're still much thinner than the pleathers, so im using the pleathers atm.

post #3434 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

 

i would but i have no DIY skills

 

thats why i was looking to see if anyone knew of a place/someone that sold better pads for he-500.

 

my velours are way too flat to be comfortable (they came on  top of the headphones in the case, i think they got kinda crushed, they look fine now but they're still much thinner than the pleathers, so im using the pleathers atm.


DG, glad you finally ordered the HE500! Did you have to sell your Denons?

 

Great choice on the Norse Skuld cable. IMO, copper does help tame that upper edge.

post #3435 of 18030
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Originally Posted by OldSkool View Post


DG, glad you finally ordered the HE500! Did you have to sell your Denons?

 

Great choice on the Norse Skuld cable. IMO, copper does help tame that upper edge.

 

thanks, and yes i did frown.gif. i will just save up for a TH-900 in the future. 

 

 

im sure the norse cable will be much better than stock. the stocks not as bad as i thought but its still thin and microphonic at the ends, it bends awkwardly and it feels like its very fragile.


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 3/1/13 at 6:18pm
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