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post #2941 of 18025
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post

Researched and these are the candidates. No way that I can audition most of them.

Audio GD SA-31 / NFB-6 / Compass 2
Burson HA-160 / Soloist SL
La Figaro 339 with TS5998 & RCA5693
Emotiva mini-X a-100
EF-5 US499
Sh1t Lyr
Violectric V200
Botttlehead S.E.X

 

This is some random list.  For orthos the only real amps on this list are...

 

Schiit Lyr

Violectric V200

 

Your list ranges from 100mW to 10W, OTL to speaker amp, $200 to $1000.  You need to focus your search some /facepalm

post #2942 of 18025

The HE500 and the V200 was a wonderful pairing when I had them. It drives everything short of the HE6 and K1000. 

post #2943 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

This is some random list.  For orthos the only real amps on this list are...

 

Schiit Lyr

Violectric V200

 

Your list ranges from 100mW to 10W, OTL to speaker amp, $200 to $1000.  You need to focus your search some /facepalm

Curious as to how much of an improvement the Lyr is over the EF-5.

 

And then the V200 over the Lyr.

post #2944 of 18025
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post

O2 LOL

Researched and these are the candidates. No way that I can audition most of them.

Audio GD SA-31 / NFB-6 / Compass 2
Burson HA-160 / Soloist SL
La Figaro 339 with TS5998 & RCA5693
Emotiva mini-X a-100
EF-5 US499
Sh1t Lyr
Violectric V200
Botttlehead S.E.X

 

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

This is some random list.  For orthos the only real amps on this list are...

 

Schiit Lyr

Violectric V200

 

Your list ranges from 100mW to 10W, OTL to speaker amp, $200 to $1000.  You need to focus your search some /facepalm

 

I think all the above except for the Bursons and the La Figaro does more than 1W which is kind of spec specified by the Hifiman founder. Quote me if I'm wrong and the list is not random as I spent quite a bit of a time researching over the weekend. I'm actually posting here as there are no other place that really discuss about amps that work well/properly without being underpowered.

 

Peace!

post #2945 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

 

This is some random list.  For orthos the only real amps on this list are...

 

Schiit Lyr

Violectric V200

 

Your list ranges from 100mW to 10W, OTL to speaker amp, $200 to $1000.  You need to focus your search some /facepalm

 

I don't think it's that random. His list mentions amps that many people here have had great pairing with. What is exactly your criteria in picking out the amps suitable for planar magnetic headphones?

post #2946 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

 

I don't think it's that random. His list mentions amps that many people here have had great pairing with. What is exactly your criteria in picking out the amps suitable for planar magnetic headphones?

 

Yes, I agree. For instance, the SA-31 on that list I currently own it seems is tailor made for orthos.  Aside from the high power output (8w @ 50ohms), it uses 4 rather large high current output transistors normally only seen in speaker amplifiers.  

 

On the other hand, when I owned the Schiit Lyr, I felt it was a less than optimal match for the R1 LCD-2.  Haven't heard it with any Hifimans though.  Perhaps the stock tubes really bottleneck it.  I may end up getting the HE-500 soon so I'll report my findings if I do.

post #2947 of 18025

It's random in that it has no direction.  None of those amps sound alike.  Drill down if you want tubes or solid state.  Drill down a budget.  Drill down a feature set.  Drill down the character you want from the amp.  Then make a list.

 

The two I picked out are the 'safe' choices.

post #2948 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

It's random in that it has no direction.  None of those amps sound alike.  Drill down if you want tubes or solid state.  Drill down a budget.  Drill down a feature set.  Drill down the character you want from the amp.  Then make a list.

 

The two I picked out are the 'safe' choices.

 

 

The Soloist / Mjolnir are safe choices as well.

post #2949 of 18025
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post

 

 

I think all the above except for the Bursons and the La Figaro does more than 1W which is kind of spec specified by the Hifiman founder. Quote me if I'm wrong and the list is not random as I spent quite a bit of a time researching over the weekend. I'm actually posting here as there are no other place that really discuss about amps that work well/properly without being underpowered.

 

Peace!

The NB6 was not optimal for the HE500 unless you use balanced and I did not care for that amp and posted a review a bit back and got rid of the amp. The Brson Solist I owned has the power and the V200 I owned and have reacquired for the hE500 becausei  it was  outstanding with that headphone. The Decware Taboo also works well with the hE500. I had sold that amp also but that was because I had no more orthos at that time. Either of the three will work and work well. The Taboo  is a speaker amp that can work with speakers or orthos as it has the built in check if ordered that way. Three month wait

post #2950 of 18025
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

The Soloist / Mjolnir are safe choices as well.

 

Not only safe, the top two under $1000 in my experience.  B22 is another safe choice if you can snag one used.  But they weren't on the list ;)

post #2951 of 18025

Hi everyone,

 

My first post but been a long time lurker.  Yes, my wallet is already feeling thin. 

 

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on HE500/HE400.  I listen to jazz, rock, metal, house and a bit of hip hop.  I am after some phones with a really nice soundstage and good detail.  Something that will transport me to another place while my eyes are closed.  I don't want an analytical sound. I do enjoy crisp bass.  I don't listen to my music loud.   Now, I have talked to a couple of people who have recommended me the HE500 over the 400.  It is stretching the budget a bit but what are your recommendations for the kind of sound I am after? I will source it from a macbook pro.

 

Amp/DAC, I managed to get my hands on a O2 for $110, it's still on its way.  I was thinking of Topping D20 DAC. I was also recommended Furutech Gt40.  I couldn't really find many reviews on it especially when paired with HE500.  Maybe, later on upgrade to Lyr/asgard and bifrost.  

 

Currently, I own HD280 pro with an e17.  A very modest set-up I know, but I am hoping to call it a day with the HE500.  This is one expensive hobby! Your replies are really appreciated.

 

Regards

 

Contrails

post #2952 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Contrails View Post

Hi everyone,

 

My first post but been a long time lurker.  Yes, my wallet is already feeling thin. 

 

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on HE500/HE400.  I listen to jazz, rock, metal, house and a bit of hip hop.  I am after some phones with a really nice soundstage and good detail.  Something that will transport me to another place while my eyes are closed.  I don't want an analytical sound. I do enjoy crisp bass.  I don't listen to my music loud.   Now, I have talked to a couple of people who have recommended me the HE500 over the 400.  It is stretching the budget a bit but what are your recommendations for the kind of sound I am after? I will source it from a macbook pro.

 

Amp/DAC, I managed to get my hands on a O2 for $110, it's still on its way.  I was thinking of Topping D20 DAC. I was also recommended Furutech Gt40.  I couldn't really find many reviews on it especially when paired with HE500.  Maybe, later on upgrade to Lyr/asgard and bifrost.  

 

Currently, I own HD280 pro with an e17.  A very modest set-up I know, but I am hoping to call it a day with the HE500.  This is one expensive hobby! Your replies are really appreciated.

 

Regards

 

Contrails

 

 

If you want to keep the cost down to around what the HE-400s are.  Another headphone to consider would be the AKG 70265th anv.  I have not heard it myself, but it's getting some very good reviews for a headphone in that price range.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/626971/akg-k702-65th-anniversary-edition

post #2953 of 18025
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post

The NB6 was not optimal for the HE500 unless you use balanced and I did not care for that amp and posted a review a bit back and got rid of the amp. The Brson Solist I owned has the power and the V200 I owned and have reacquired for the hE500 becausei  it was  outstanding with that headphone. The Decware Taboo also works well with the hE500. I had sold that amp also but that was because I had no more orthos at that time. Either of the three will work and work well. The Taboo  is a speaker amp that can work with speakers or orthos as it has the built in check if ordered that way. Three month wait

 

I can't speak about the NFB-6 as I haven't heard it but based on what I've read of your reviews, you may actually like the SA-31.  It's sound signature is likely closer to the V200 than the NFB-6. It uses a completely different topology and traditional through hole components vs SMD parts.  The topology is supposedly modeled after a mid 90's Accuphase amplifier.  Similar to how the V200 is based on an old Nakamichi circuit.  

 

It's interesting how some manufacturers are looking back to older Japanese stereo equipment as inspiration for newer products.  Also, The SA-31 is single ended only and so is optimized as such.  I'm really curious to hear the Soloist. I can't say for sure since I haven't heard the Soloist, but I would imagine the SA-31 is closer in performance to the Soloist than the NFB-6.  I feel it's a very special amp in the otherwise somewhat generic Audio-GD lineup.

 

To stay on topic, It's also had good impressions from Hifiman owners as well, HE-400, HE-500, and HE-6.  At about $550 shipped, it's an excellent alternative to something like the Lyr, and I personally greatly prefer it over the Lyr I owned.  

post #2954 of 18025

My vote goes to the SA-31. Couldn't recommend it highly enough ;)

post #2955 of 18025
Jason and team have worked their butts off to gain the confidence of this community. The initial roll out had such fanfare that no one could live up to it. The Lyr was supposed to be the end of the search for the 6s. His current offerings are giving many a favorable comparison to established gear and I tip my cap to their efforts. I look forward to hearing what our neighbors are.
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