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post #2881 of 15266
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Originally Posted by snip3r77 View Post

I used the higher gain 2.5x. Most current pop songs require vol about 12 o clock while audiophiles about 12 to 3.

What gain is it set up for?

I'm using the odac o2. Builder said 6.5x will have distortions.

 

Everything you said makes perfect sense. Current pop songs that come on radio have to fight for air time and one thing you can do is compress them and make them louder at the expense of clipping and loss of range. We call this the loudness war. A good read for anyone that's interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

 

The people who make the typical "audiophile" recordings know the population sector they are targeting and so don't have to adhere to the strategies commonly used now. This is why you usually can go louder with audiophile recordings because they allow the track to breathe. (Kinda went off track, thought it might be interesting though for others perhaps)

 

I use the 2.5X as well - makes sense and we got similar results. Yes, with 6.5X, I can confirm the sound coming from the HE-500 has a lot of distortion

post #2882 of 15266
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

No no no it doesn't require it. It'd be nice if it could get it, but HE500s are exceptionally forgiving in terms of amping, moreso than most other high end headphones in fact.

Thats completely correct..but..get the right amp..poor matching is a no go with the he500

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Thats completely correct..but..get the right amp..poor matching is a no go with the he500


What is the right AMP for them then?

 

Thanks

post #2884 of 15266
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Originally Posted by TheKillerPiglet View Post

 

Have them both, T1 is nice change of pace and do sound very good in their own right, but got to cans are the 500's. Grater detail, fuller sound, more involving. I may feel different once I get an OTL on the T1's.

 

KP

 

You find the HE-500 does detail retrieval better than the T1?   I would say the HE-500s are more forgiving when compared to the T1 because the T1s does such a great job at detail retrieval - that's one of the headphones strong point.  This also makes it less forgiving when compared to the HE-500s. 

 

This is IMO of course.biggrin.gif

post #2885 of 15266
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Originally Posted by sebna View Post
Making listening to my Indie Rock flac painfull to my ears :( (have to turn down the volume) However on the other side some high resolution files are just purely amazing like Pink Floyd or classical / jaz ones. They are very sensitive to quality of material which I am listening to and I can easliy tell the higher resolution files from lower ones. Unexpected draw back of high quality equipment.

 

Indie rock and metal are two genres that have some of the worst mastering out there. HE-500 will do okay here, nothing painful.

 

Pink Floyd on HE-500 is the absolute best I've ever heard on any headphones so far. It rivals the sound of Funktion One speakers. It absolutely murdered the LCD-2 Rev2 here. The treble response with Pink Floyd and other recordings that used live instruments is something you have to listen to for yourself. Instead of throwing typical audiophile synonyms at you, I'll simply recommend you to buy it.

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Originally Posted by sebna View Post


What is the right AMP for them then?

 

Thanks

I can only talk from experience as thats most honest..guys cut in with alternatives pls

 

The darkvoice 337 and lafigaro 339 pair suberbly

shiit lyr a bit more muddy but excellent amp!

violectric v200 if u wanna go balanced

I had a matrix mstage with opa627 class a mod and it did surprisingly well with the he500 as i mentioned before..fow low budget simple amping thats not a bad choice imho ofcourse

 

i understand the woo audio waa 7 pairs well also

and there is a huge thread about emotiva

but last two i only know from hearsay..am sure others can give u more info and other alternatives they have experience with.

 

but u have to use ur ears to find out whats best for u..thats only way.wink.gif

post #2887 of 15266
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

I can only talk from experience as thats most honest..guys cut in with alternatives pls

 

The darkvoice 337 and lafigaro 339 pair suberbly

shiit lyr a bit more muddy but excellent amp!

violectric v200 if u wanna go balanced

I had a matrix mstage with opa627 class a mod and it did surprisingly well with the he500 as i mentioned before..fow low budget simple amping thats not a bad choice imho ofcourse

 

i understand the woo audio waa 7 pairs well also

and there is a huge thread about emotiva

but last two i only know from hearsay..am sure others can give u more info and other alternatives they have experience with.

 

but u have to use ur ears to find out whats best for u..thats only way.wink.gif

 

 

The V200 is not a balanced ampblink.gif

post #2888 of 15266
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

The V200 is not a balanced ampblink.gifbiggrin.gif

I think it is wink.gif But only input

 

http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/products/hpav200.php

 

but i have to say it wasnt a v200 but a v181.. Those beep violectric amps look then same to me 

 

http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/products/hpav181.php


Edited by hifimanrookie - 2/2/13 at 7:43pm
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Originally Posted by ForsakenArcher View Post

@Dougo

 

Which tubes you are using for Lyr? I also have Bifrost-Lyr-HE-500 and I've been using 6N1Ps to drive HE-500 and I found sub bass to be a bit low in volume. My HE-500 has less than 30 hours of use though.

I have the same kit as you. I'm using a couple Matsu****a E88CC 6922 Japan tubes right now and am stupidly happy with them. Have fun!

 

 

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Edited by preproman - 2/2/13 at 7:40pm
post #2891 of 15266
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

I think it is wink.gif

 

http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/products/hpav200.php

Naw - It has XLR inputs.  It's still a single ended amp.

post #2892 of 15266

V200 - Balanced XLR inputs, with single ended output.

post #2893 of 15266
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Originally Posted by Zoom25 View Post

V200 - Balanced XLR inputs, with single ended output.

 

 

Right - but the amp it self is single ended - not balanced.

post #2894 of 15266

Got to love contradicting opinions ;)

 

Unfortunatley I cannot listen to any of those headphones. I have to chose based on what I read.

 

But yes I would think that T1 are the masters of detail and dynamics due to technology used at cost of other characteristics at times.

 

Hard choices :D

 

Maybe I should stay with D7100 - they are getting better with burning in. :D

 

Thanks for all the input so far.

 

The 1.5W Amp should do great job of driving HE-500?
 


Edited by sebna - 2/2/13 at 7:46pm
post #2895 of 15266

Correct this is their current balanced amp.

 

http://www.violectric.de/Pages/en/products/hpav181.php

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