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post #2296 of 18011

No probs Rezolver. Just listened to the same recording with the LCD2's on the same set up and the treble is defo harder.. The air isn't there but I'm not sure if its because of the hifimans added color, but the LCD2's don't actually sound any less bright.. just they are more restricted, can't breath as much. It's just not as pleasing.

 

Anyways, pumping out Paronoid Android now and i'm afraid that the LCD2's win here with the much fuller wall of sound...The 500's sound great too but in comparison they are a bit "light on the loafers" haha It's a tough call with Rock music. Electric guitar sounds superb on the HE500's but the "whole band" sounds better on the LCD2's.

 

Just some thoughts..

post #2297 of 18011

I noticed something similar while borrowing the LCD2's was that although the treble was not as 'bright' and forward when compared to the HE-500's, it sounded much 'harder' to my ears due to the upfront presentation and lack of air around the instruments.  While listening to Anne Akiko Meyers shredding her voilin, the LCD2's gave me the impression my ear was right beside the instrument, while on the AKG 501's I was in the front row watching the presentation and a few rows back on the HE-500's.

 

It was an interesting phenomenon to say the least.

 

To be fair to the LCD2's, I have yet to hear a better headphone for live recordings and vocals.  They have a natural way of putting you right at the venue.  During the loan period, I listened to more hours of live recordings than I have done up to that point.

The vocals were also liquid smooth.  Although the HE-500's have a great way with vocals, they cannot touch the LCD2's and its presentation.

 

edit: thoughts updated


Edited by rezolver - 12/21/12 at 4:55pm
post #2298 of 18011

Is there a particular Anne Akiko Meyers recording you favour?

 

Bought the Haydn violin concerto album performed by by Carmingola, which I have not. Haydn is one of my favourites and there is so much beyond Four Seasons, sorry being OT...
 


Edited by Acapella11 - 12/21/12 at 5:05pm
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Is there a particular Anne Akiko Meyers recording you favour?

 

Bought the Haydn violin concerto album performed by by Carmingola, which I have not. Haydn is one of my favourites and there is so much beyond Four Seasons, sorry being OT...
 

 

 

 

The second track -- Violin Concerto No. 1 in A-Minor is one I favour the most.

post #2300 of 18011

Thanks Rezolver.

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On the pleather vs. velour issue, I come down on the side of pleather simply because they're more comfortable for long listening sessions and any difference in SQ to me is not really noticable.  Perhaps with my using the HP's almost  exclusively for  listening to classical chamber music the suposedly wetter sound of the pleathers is just a good fit.

 

P.S.

 

It's not only the sound of the violin that's amazing with the HE-500's, the bass clarinet also sounds stunningly vivid and true.


Edited by Andolink - 12/21/12 at 8:20pm
post #2302 of 18011

Some people here are reporting that the HE500s have too strong, shrill highs, and others are complaining that they are dull and boring.

I guess that means they are just right (which is my humble impression of them).

post #2303 of 18011
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On the pleather vs. velour issue, I come down on the side of pleather simply because they're more comfortable for long listening sessions and any difference in SQ to me is not really noticable.  Perhaps with my using the HP's almost  exclusively for  listening to classical chamber music the suposedly wetter sound of the pleathers is just a good fit.

 

 

I did a comparison of velour v. pleather on some heavy orchestral music and much preferred the pleather. While the velour emphasised a certain part of the treble band (probably enhancing vocals) it was less smooth and homogeneous on orchestral, and thus harsher. I also find the pleather more comfortable.    

post #2304 of 18011
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Some people here are reporting that the HE500s have too strong, shrill highs, and others are complaining that they are dull and boring.

I guess that means they are just right (which is my humble impression of them).

 

 

Or...that there's an inconsistency in the manufacturing process.

post #2305 of 18011
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Or...that there's an inconsistency in the manufacturing process.

IMO it's due to different people listening to different types of music as reference.

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IMO it's due to different people listening to different types of music as reference.

 

Very true - and my impression of HE-500 for each genre also changes with velour vs pleather. For jazz and vocals, the pleather is natural and perfect, where the pleather can sometimes kill that. Although for electronic music, the velour can sometimes be bright. The pleather on the other hand tames that and provides a blacker background.

post #2307 of 18011
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 For jazz and vocals, the pleather is natural and perfect, where the pleather can sometimes kill that.

 

Sorry?

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Sorry?

 

FTFY: For jazz and vocals, the velour is natural and perfect, where the pleather can sometimes kill that.

post #2309 of 18011

What does the pleather actually kill?

post #2310 of 18011
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post

Some people here are reporting that the HE500s have too strong, shrill highs, and others are complaining that they are dull and boring.

I guess that means they are just right (which is my humble impression of them).

 

A part of it could also be addressed to a lower quality source or poor system matching. Especially the DAC has an often not discussed but significant impact on SQ.

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