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Originally Posted by hasanyuceer View Post

Has anybody chosen between HE6 and HE500? If you had, can you please tell me how you chose?

 

I have both HE6 and HE500 in my hands right now. I am a one-headphone person and I only want to have one. But they are so close and HE6 is better by quality, HE500 is better by sound signature. It is really hard.

 

PS: Choosing HE6 and darken the rig is impossible because my rig is almost the darkest.


Sell both and get a Stax system :)

post #1892 of 14089
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Originally Posted by Yuceka View Post


Sell both and get a Stax system smily_headphones1.gif
Do you find your Stax better than HE-500?
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I'm sorry.  But IMHO the HE-6 is far better in every way than the HE-500.  However, you must amp it correct.  Like captoch is doing with his HE-500s.  If you put the HE-6 on a speaker amp you'll see.  It's an headphone experience you must have.  I have not heard many STAX headphones except at a few meet.  The HE-6s when amp properly rivals some Stax headphones.  Please try it out then come back with your impressions.

post #1894 of 14089
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

I'm sorry.  But IMHO the HE-6 is far better in every way than the HE-500.  However, you must amp it correct.  Like captoch is doing with his HE-500s.  If you put the HE-6 on a speaker amp you'll see.  It's an headphone experience you must have.  I have not heard many STAX headphones except at a few meet.  The HE-6s when amp properly rivals some Stax headphones.  Please try it out then come back with your impressions.

I wouldn't say "far" better. HE-6 on speaker taps is maybe 10% better, at most.

 

I think the compelling argument for the HE-500s over the HE-6s and STAX is the bang for your buck factor. The HE-500s provide world class sound for $699 and can be run perfectly on conventional amps under $200. 

post #1895 of 14089

he sold his he 500 in favor of the stax wink.gif

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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post


Do you find your Stax better than HE-500?

 

for 899  you can get the stax lambda combo as well  stax isn't just about omega you know 

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Originally Posted by Darkbeat View Post

I wouldn't say "far" better. HE-6 on speaker taps is maybe 10% better, at most.

 

I think the compelling argument for the HE-500s over the HE-6s and STAX is the bang for your buck factor. The HE-500s provide world class sound for $699 and can be run perfectly on conventional amps under $200. 


Edited by xzobinx - 9/10/12 at 3:16pm
post #1896 of 14089
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Originally Posted by Darkbeat View Post

I wouldn't say "far" better. HE-6 on speaker taps is maybe 10% better, at most.

 

I think the compelling argument for the HE-500s over the HE-6s and STAX is the bang for your buck factor. The HE-500s provide world class sound for $699 and can be run perfectly on conventional amps under $200. 

 

 

HE-500s - a better bang for your buck = True

 

HE-6s - more than 10% better than HE-500s = False.

 

There way more than 10% better.  Note:  When amped right..

post #1897 of 14089
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Originally Posted by xzobinx View Post

he sold his he 500 in favor of the stax wink.gif

 

for 899  you can get the stax lambda combo as well  stax isn't just about omega you know 

HE-500 competes rather well with Omega and the Lambda is several steps down from that. 

 

HE-500s have their own sound advantages too, bass in particular.

 

 

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HE-500s - a better bang for your buck = True

 

HE-6s - more than 10% better than HE-500s = False.

 

There way more than 10% better.  Note:  When amped right..

Then you're exaggerating. 10% is a pretty big boost in Summit-fi where the law of diminishing returns kicked in ages ago. 

 

Regardless, "better" is subjective anyway. What isn't subjective is that the HE-6s are considerably more expensive, have ridiculous power requirements and won't out-perform the HE-500s outside of a few very specific and quite possibly costly situations.


Edited by Darkbeat - 9/10/12 at 3:32pm
post #1898 of 14089

Wanna bet????

 

I'll put my Paradoxs up against the HE-500s

 

Why do you think the HE-6 is there Flagship??

 

As I said best bag for your buck yes the HE-500 will win every time.

 

Price no object the HE-6 will win every time HANDS DOWN - "When amped right"  tongue_smile.gif

post #1899 of 14089
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Wanna bet????

 

I'll put my Paradoxs up against the HE-500s

 

Why do you think the HE-6 is there Flagship??

 

As I said best bag for your buck yes the HE-500 will win every time.

 

Price no object the HE-6 will win every time HANDS DOWN - "When amped right"  tongue_smile.gif

I don't disagree with anything you've posted here. The HE-6 will win, every time, hands down, when amped right. That is, they'll win by no more than an arbitrary figure of 10%ish.

 

By the way, price no object the SR-009s beat the HE-6s every time. So price is clearly an object, nu?

post #1900 of 14089
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Originally Posted by Darkbeat View Post

I don't disagree with anything you've posted here. The HE-6 will win, every time, hands down, when amped right. That is, they'll win by no more than an arbitrary figure of 10%ish.

 

By the way, price no object the SR-009s beat the HE-6s every time. So price is clearly an object, nu?

 

 

For some people - Price is no object.  That's a fact.  

 

The 009s falls in the price no object category for some people - no?

post #1901 of 14089
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

For some people - Price is no object.  That's a fact.  

 

The 009s falls in the price no object category for some people - no?

I have no doubt.

 

But if price is no object, why settle with just the HE-6s when you could have the SR-009s? We've already established the HE-500s are better value and have a niche here in Summit-fi, but for all the money and effort taken to get the HE-6s sounding as good as you do, you may as well get an SR-009 (or maybe even an Omega). 

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Have you listened to any stax ? 

And I have read that article of Tyll but can't find any sentences actually state a direct comparison between omega and he 500.

 

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Originally Posted by Darkbeat View Post

HE-500 competes rather well with Omega and the Lambda is several steps down from that. 

 

post #1903 of 14089
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Originally Posted by Darkbeat View Post

I have no doubt.

 

But if price is no object, why settle with just the HE-6s when you could have the SR-009s? We've already established the HE-500s are better value and have a niche here in Summit-fi, but for all the money and effort taken to get the HE-6s sounding as good as you do, you may as well get an SR-009 (or maybe even an Omega). 

 

 

Huh?  Man I paid $250 each for my Dual mono blocks and I got my HE-6 used for $850.  So yes - price is an object for me.  I have no Idea where you got that from?   I never said price is no object for me.  I said for some people..  That does not include me.  If that was the case - I would be STAX all the way baby..  


Edited by preproman - 9/10/12 at 4:10pm
post #1904 of 14089

The guy who sold me his HE-500, also had HE-6 and Stax 507. Persanally he liked stax more, so he sold HE-6 too and then upgraded to 009 smile.gif

post #1905 of 14089
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Originally Posted by xzobinx View Post

he sold his he 500 in favor of the stax wink.gif

 

for 899  you can get the stax lambda combo as well  stax isn't just about omega you know 

Yep :)

 

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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post


Do you find your Stax better than HE-500?


Absolutely!

 

And I must disagree with Darkbeat. HE-500 are world class headphones but I don't think they're on the same league with the Stax. I have not heard the current production of Lambda series but mine are the limited edition of SR-404 and they beat the HE-500 in every way possible, including the bass. Sure you don't get a jaw shaking bass out of them but you get a quality bass and once you hear the clarity and the instrument separation you can't go back to HE-500. I held onto both headphones for several weeks. I listened to my SR-404LE for several days and then went back to HE-500 and they sounded like crap.. I couldn't believe my ears. And I was thinking that HE-500 were the last stop for me as I've never wanted to deal with Stax systems as the myth says that they are too expensive. Not really...

 

This is all too subjective but I am pretty sure SR-007 or SR-009 are leagues above HE-500 but I cannot say that for sure as I have never heard them. Hopefully next month.

 

HE-6 vs. HE-500. I owned both and drove both out of the Lyr and I preferred the HE-500 and I can testify to the fact that HE-6 are basically speakers and should be driven out of designed for speakers or EF-6. Again I am guessing that a HE-6 driven from a speaker amp should excel the HE-500 driven from a headphone amp. But that doesn't mean one is better than the other, it all comes to down to personal preference.

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