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post #1651 of 18011
Just for the heck of it, I am tempted to get a HE-6 cable and a pigtail, and hook the HE-500s up to my speaker amps: either the beauty you see as my avatar (18W 300B PSE), or my old MF A1000 (50W genuine class A solid-state). I'm just a bit concerned about damaging said amplifiers.....
post #1652 of 18011
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

 

I agree 2WPC is great with HE-500, but I'm listening right now with 1/4 that in my Woo WA6 and I'm still enjoying them.  They do sound/feel more authoritative with my EF5 amp, but the WA6 is a little more detailed and spacious and when listening quietly at night it's powerful enough.  I'm still not sure how I feel about using them with any portable amp except my balanced SR-71b which is more powerful than the WA6 and rock with them.  I bought a special Moon Audio Silver Dragon cable just to use them balanced with the SR-71b.

Hmm that's interesting. Again at the recent meet in Dallas I used them with Woo WA6 and though I did like the sound I don't think it was able to drive them at all. Unlike evanft I am dying to find a good tube amp for the HE-500 (other than the Taboo) that can do justice to the HE-500. I wonder what my problem was with WA6 because when I cranked the volume all the way up then I was able to listen to them with any loudness at all. 

post #1653 of 18011
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Hmm that's interesting. Again at the recent meet in Dallas I used them with Woo WA6 and though I did like the sound I don't think it was able to drive them at all. Unlike evanft I am dying to find a good tube amp for the HE-500 (other than the Taboo) that can do justice to the HE-500. I wonder what my problem was with WA6 because when I cranked the volume all the way up then I was able to listen to them with any loudness at all. 

There was talk earlier about the Project Sunrise V2 being a good match. Only $199 DIY or $245 assembled. Even though I don't need another amp (do we ever, really? tongue.gif), I'm thinking of checking it out myself since it's not very expensive.
post #1654 of 18011

Why not just go with the v200?  It seems to be one of the more popular amps for the he-500.  Frank I had some really nice things to say about it. He said it was the best amp he tried besides his taboo.  I guess 1000 bucks is a lot compared to the sunrise, but I find it hard to believe that they are in the same class provided you have a good source.

post #1655 of 18011
I have inter alia the V200, G100 and the Sunrise. The HE-500 plays well with all. It is a matter of personal preferences and budget. It is, as Lloyd says, not a disadvantage to feed any of these amplifiers with a good source and lossless files.

The ss amps may be interpret technically better in sound if you analyze it to death, but if you let your ears go with the music flow - the Sunrise might give you a surprise...

All mentioned amps are keepers. Hence, I have ordered misc NOS-tubes to see if they can perform just as good (or better; that would be fantastic) as the Reflektor 6n23n tube that is delivered with the Sunrise.

PostScript: For my Audezes; I stick to the ss amps.
Edited by Loevhagen - 7/6/12 at 9:15am
post #1656 of 18011
Anyone with HE-500 & Meier Concerto or MAD Ear+ combo? Please share your impression. biggrin.gif
Edited by Twinster - 7/6/12 at 10:07am
post #1657 of 18011
And if anyone has (heard) the HE-500 and the WA22 combo; please share your impressions.
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post #1658 of 18011

LCD-2 Rev2 but I thought the WA22 belonged at the level of a B22.  With the tubes I had rolled in they were very similar.  At used price definitely a great ortho amp.

post #1659 of 18011
WA22 is one of the amps I am curious of - either with the HiFiMANs or the Audezes. The downside is that importing one to Scandinavia is fairly expensive, and importing one without having a real clue of what it is capable of is a bit risky for $2k+, import tax and VAT (25%).
post #1660 of 18011

Woo and out of North America is painful just in shipping costs ;)

post #1661 of 18011
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Originally Posted by Twinster View Post

Anyone with HE-500 & Meier Concerto or MAD Ear+ combo? Please share your impression. biggrin.gif

 

There were some impressions somewhere on the concerto and he-500.  They were positive.  That's about all I can remember but you might be able to find it!  Good Luck :)

post #1662 of 18011

Why is it that speaker taps and more power is being suggested for the HE-500s?  These "CANS" are made to be easy-er to drive and do not require more power.  As Yuceka said - 2WPC is plenty power for these.

post #1663 of 18011

It all depends on who you talk to.  In the vintage receiver thread I asked if there would be any benefit of speaker taps vs headphone output of my Pioneer SX-737.  The answer was save money and do not reterminate my HE-500 headphone cables.  My V200 has plenty of power as well.  I am curious to try the speaker taps but possibly each person will have to determine whether or not there is a benefit to driving the HE-500 with more power.  I can already reach unlistenable decibels so there would have to an acoustic benefit to using speaker taps. 

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Why is it that speaker taps and more power is being suggested for the HE-500s?  These "CANS" are made to be easy-er to drive and do not require more power.  As Yuceka said - 2WPC is plenty power for these.

post #1664 of 18011

HE500 with Lafigaro 339!

post #1665 of 18011
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Why is it that speaker taps and more power is being suggested for the HE-500s?  These "CANS" are made to be easy-er to drive and do not require more power.  As Yuceka said - 2WPC is plenty power for these.


2 watts per channel for the HE-500s (38 ohms) translates to 9.5 watts per channel from 8 ohm speaker taps. A 35WPC receiver like the Pioneer SX-737 would provide 7.4 watts for the HE-500s. Once the numbers are translated it's not such an outrageous concept. I wouldn't want to throw huge power numbers at the HE-500 via speaker taps though (40 watts max @ 8 ohms / 8.4 @ 38 ohms).

 

I haven't come across a headphone out that has been able to duplicate the sonic quality of the HE-500 via speaker taps. The best I have heard it is via the speaker taps of a 25WPC solid state amp (5.3 watts @ 38 ohms). We are into flower-bed territory so any descriptions of the sound would fail. The only thing to do is to at least try it out to see what the sonic differences may be and whether it's worth the effort.

 

Just an afterthought: The Schiit Lyr's 6 watts for 32 ohms translates to 5.1 watts for 38 ohms; that's equivalent to 24 watts per channel from 8 ohm speaker taps.

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