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Then its better not to mention what (hint: cable) the easter bunny dropped off at my home last friday.. yummy!!!! Negative side.. Wifey will kill me a million times if she ever finds out the price..for her its 200usd... hehehe
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Then its better not to mention what (hint: cable) the easter bunny dropped off at my home last friday.. yummy!!!! Negative side.. Wifey will kill me a million times if she ever finds out the price..for her its 200usd... hehehe

She finds out, you'll be hanging in the closet on the cable.

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Then its better not to mention what (hint: cable) the easter bunny dropped off at my home last friday.. yummy!!!! Negative side.. Wifey will kill me a million times if she ever finds out the price..for her its 200usd... hehehe


Better hide and pray she don't find you or you be seeing a cast iron skillet in your future.

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I'm strongly considering adding these to my shortlist but would love some input.  Here's my situation.  My setup for the past couple of years has been a Schiit Modi/Magni stack and a pair of Mad Dogs.  I like this combo as a lowish cost (its all relative, right) relatively neutral and accurate setup.  While I've been in the hi-fi/home theater hobby for more than a decade, I was a relative newbie to head-fi.  So after spending some time with this setup I was ready to take the next step and improve my experience.

 

So I ordered a Schiit Bifrost Uber USB and Lyr 2.  They don't arrive until tomorrow and I'll definitely spend some time with the new DAC and amp with my existing headphones.  But, I'm trying to develop a short list of headphones to potentially upgrade to from the Mad Dogs or potentially add in addition to the MDs to provide some different flavor.  I'd like to find something with better soundstage but I'm also particularly interested in finding a headphone that's a bit more on the bassy side.  I'm probably not in the basshead category but I would like more bass than the MDs provide (as a frame of reference).

 

Without reading 1077 pages, I'd love to get some feedback on 1) suitability of my new amp/dac with the HE-500 and 2) comparison of soundstage and bass compared to Mad Dogs from people who own or have owned both headphones and possibly even those headphones with the Lyr 2.

 

Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by imahawki View Post
 

I'm strongly considering adding these to my shortlist but would love some input.  Here's my situation.  My setup for the past couple of years has been a Schiit Modi/Magni stack and a pair of Mad Dogs.  I like this combo as a lowish cost (its all relative, right) relatively neutral and accurate setup.  While I've been in the hi-fi/home theater hobby for more than a decade, I was a relative newbie to head-fi.  So after spending some time with this setup I was ready to take the next step and improve my experience.

 

So I ordered a Schiit Bifrost Uber USB and Lyr 2.  They don't arrive until tomorrow and I'll definitely spend some time with the new DAC and amp with my existing headphones.  But, I'm trying to develop a short list of headphones to potentially upgrade to from the Mad Dogs or potentially add in addition to the MDs to provide some different flavor.  I'd like to find something with better soundstage but I'm also particularly interested in finding a headphone that's a bit more on the bassy side.  I'm probably not in the basshead category but I would like more bass than the MDs provide (as a frame of reference).

 

Without reading 1077 pages, I'd love to get some feedback on 1) suitability of my new amp/dac with the HE-500 and 2) comparison of soundstage and bass compared to Mad Dogs from people who own or have owned both headphones and possibly even those headphones with the Lyr 2.

 

Thanks in advance.

I hear nothing but good things from the Lyr2 and Bifrost, and I've got a Magni/Modi as well feeding the HE-500. In terms of bass response, I think closed back cans are going to be getting a lot more, but the HE-500 doesn't slack off at all and I'm never left wanting more. Probably the biggest part of the bass in the HiFiMAN, and any planar headphone I think, is the accuracy and quickness of it. Realistic is what I'd like to say, and I love it to death. 

If you do want more bass, the Audeze LCD2 is supposed to have some of the most best bass out there for an open can if you're willing to get a used one for about $700? Or so, I don't know how much they're going for at the moment. 

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Originally Posted by imahawki View Post

I'm strongly considering adding these to my shortlist but would love some input.  Here's my situation.  My setup for the past couple of years has been a Schiit Modi/Magni stack and a pair of Mad Dogs.  I like this combo as a lowish cost (its all relative, right) relatively neutral and accurate setup.  While I've been in the hi-fi/home theater hobby for more than a decade, I was a relative newbie to head-fi.  So after spending some time with this setup I was ready to take the next step and improve my experience.

So I ordered a Schiit Bifrost Uber USB and Lyr 2.  They don't arrive until tomorrow and I'll definitely spend some time with the new DAC and amp with my existing headphones.  But, I'm trying to develop a short list of headphones to potentially upgrade to from the Mad Dogs or potentially add in addition to the MDs to provide some different flavor.  I'd like to find something with better soundstage but I'm also particularly interested in finding a headphone that's a bit more on the bassy side.  I'm probably not in the basshead category but I would like more bass than the MDs provide (as a frame of reference).

Without reading 1077 pages, I'd love to get some feedback on 1) suitability of my new amp/dac with the HE-500 and 2) comparison of soundstage and bass compared to Mad Dogs from people who own or have owned both headphones and possibly even those headphones with the Lyr 2.

Thanks in advance.

You will be very pleased, I think.
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Yea, I never heard any of the Schiit amps but I hear good things about the Lyr / HE-500 combo. Apparently some replacement tubes can really elevate it as well - but again I never tried myself.

 

In terms of bass response, out of my amp (Corda Classic, a very powerful and lean class-A SS amp) the bass response of the HE-500 is simply incredible. The bass goes in so deep, and so articulated/detailed as well. It's a real pleasure, much better than the Mad Dogs to my ears (I own both).

 

I used to own another pair of headphones that was supposed to be the king of the hill in the bass department (JVC SZ-2000, with a separate bass drivers for each ear), but the HE-500 was just miles better even in the bass (not to mention any other department) so I ended up selling the JVC.

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Originally Posted by imahawki View Post

I'm strongly considering adding these to my shortlist but would love some input.  Here's my situation.  My setup for the past couple of years has been a Schiit Modi/Magni stack and a pair of Mad Dogs.  I like this combo as a lowish cost (its all relative, right) relatively neutral and accurate setup.  While I've been in the hi-fi/home theater hobby for more than a decade, I was a relative newbie to head-fi.  So after spending some time with this setup I was ready to take the next step and improve my experience.

So I ordered a Schiit Bifrost Uber USB and Lyr 2.  They don't arrive until tomorrow and I'll definitely spend some time with the new DAC and amp with my existing headphones.  But, I'm trying to develop a short list of headphones to potentially upgrade to from the Mad Dogs or potentially add in addition to the MDs to provide some different flavor.  I'd like to find something with better soundstage but I'm also particularly interested in finding a headphone that's a bit more on the bassy side.  I'm probably not in the basshead category but I would like more bass than the MDs provide (as a frame of reference).

Without reading 1077 pages, I'd love to get some feedback on 1) suitability of my new amp/dac with the HE-500 and 2) comparison of soundstage and bass compared to Mad Dogs from people who own or have owned both headphones and possibly even those headphones with the Lyr 2.

Thanks in advance.
Lyr/Bifrost is basically the ideal combo for the HE500. Even better yet, you get so much mod-ability between the HE500 and the Lyr, you can really tune it to fit your preferred sound to a T. The tube rolling thread for Lyr is quite incredible... You have an incredible depth of knowledge from the community at your disposal. And the HE500 modding options are quite simply fantastic. The fuzzor mod and the regrilling mod offer huge improvements for (basically) pennies. And pad swaps let you dial in the comfort and sound signature you need. Honestly, it's probably the best value in flagship-level headphones. I like it about as much as my HD800, and FAR more than my Beyer T1.
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Lyr/Bifrost is basically the ideal combo for the HE500. Even better yet, you get so much mod-ability between the HE500 and the Lyr, you can really tune it to fit your preferred sound to a T. The tube rolling thread for Lyr is quite incredible... You have an incredible depth of knowledge from the community at your disposal. And the HE500 modding options are quite simply fantastic. The fuzzor mod and the regrilling mod offer huge improvements for (basically) pennies. And pad swaps let you dial in the comfort and sound signature you need. Honestly, it's probably the best value in flagship-level headphones. I like it about as much as my HD800, and FAR more than my Beyer T1.

 

I have to agree with most of this, other than the T1 happens to be my favorite overall headphone.  That's not to say that sometimes I don't prefer the HE500.

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Originally Posted by Hansotek View Post

Lyr/Bifrost is basically the ideal combo for the HE500. Even better yet, you get so much mod-ability between the HE500 and the Lyr, you can really tune it to fit your preferred sound to a T. The tube rolling thread for Lyr is quite incredible... You have an incredible depth of knowledge from the community at your disposal. And the HE500 modding options are quite simply fantastic. The fuzzor mod and the regrilling mod offer huge improvements for (basically) pennies. And pad swaps let you dial in the comfort and sound signature you need. Honestly, it's probably the best value in flagship-level headphones. I like it about as much as my HD800, and FAR more than my Beyer T1.
I agree..owned a modded he500 for a few years and i can attest that the he500 is probably best deal u can get if u consider sound performance-price ratio as a very important factor..even still..with new phones around..many cant beat the he500 for its price..especially if u mod it (can be done extremely cheaply by the way). The he500 was my first hooray into higher end headphones..wish they never ever invented that damn thing..as since then my wallet is bleeding continiously..with what i have now i could have bought a nice second hand car...damn phone!!!! Hehehehe
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I like it about as much as my HD800, and FAR more than my Beyer T1.

 

I have to agree with most of this, other than the T1 happens to be my favorite overall headphone.  That's not to say that sometimes I don't prefer the HE500.

 

I have a Bottlehead Crack kit on the way, so my opinion might change on the T1... we'll see. I've struggled with it. I thought it was going to be my endgame, but I just can't get into them. They're sharp and all treble with no body or impact. I could even forgive that (maybe) if they had some nice aggression in the upper mids around 3 or 4 khz... but that's withdrawn too. I really want to try a different pair at a meet... I haven't ruled it out that I might just have a bad production variation... though the SN is 11091, which is way past the first revision.

 

However, I will say this (on the plus side for the T1): I picked up Darren Fong's Out of Your Head speaker simulator DSP, and I've been enjoying the T1 immensely with that! The angled drivers and open sound definitely help fool your brain into thinking you are listening to speakers. Some of the speaker simulators bring out the bass and body really nicely, too. So for that, the T1 has been great. OOYH might not be for everybody, but it's worth trying the demo, if you're a T1 user.

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