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Originally Posted by Rockcoon View Post

Ok. Someone heard one of these cables?http://theaudioguild.com/the-collection/#/q-cables/
Price is scarry, but if it can partially kill the sibilance, and such problem will apears with the stock cable. this may be the salvation.

 

I have it. I like it. The adapters have broken on my but I have a tendancy to step on the cable which will obviously own it but that's MUCH better than breaking the cable itself wh.  I'm not a believer in cables or have never done comparisons.  Just wanted a nice cable and as far as build quality the Q French silk is one of the nicest I have encountered.  You can always PM @Steve Eddy for more info. 

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thanks. I mailed to him. And the most importain thig, they can ship their goods to my region. However, i should listen the stock cable at first, maybe it's not so bad.
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I'm not being argumentative, nor do I have to agree with you. I'm providing a balance of information.

I'll ask you, what characteristic or property of an amp can give it the "ability to bring sibilance forward?"

Sibilance is usually a significant peak in the FR, many times around 6 kHz or so or some sort of significant elevation it the treble with a narrow peak. Amps do not do that. I'd look elsewhere in the chain to find the cause.

 

joespride : white, black, high, low, you like being argumentative. I say X.

 

StanD : black, white, low, high, I'm not being arumgentative. I don't have to agree with X.  I say Y.

 

 

How about an amp with a gently positively-sloped FR curve vs one with a gently negatively-sloped.  Possible?  Different presentation of source sibilance?  I would say so.

 

Edit:  Oh, I forgot the obligatory :beerchug:


Edited by BobJS - Today at 4:12 am
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So you have never heard an amp with a tendency to the bright side ??    IE an exagerated high end !!!!

Nope. A flat FR is easy to achieve. If an amp can't do that it's a really bad POS. As I asked before what property of an amp other than FR can do this?

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Originally Posted by Rockcoon View Post

Ok. Someone heard one of these cables?http://theaudioguild.com/the-collection/#/q-cables/
Price is scarry, but if it can partially kill the sibilance, and such problem will apears with the stock cable. this may be the salvation.

 

I'm using the stock silver colored braided Hifiman cable and have no sibilance problem with either my Grace 903 amp or the Violectric v281.

I can't stand excessive sibilance and the the he-500 is blessedly free of this issue IMO.

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joespride : white, black, high, low, you like being argumentative. I say X.

 

StanD : black, white, low, high, I'm not being arumgentative. I don't have to agree with X.  I say Y.

 

 

How about an amp with a gently positively-sloped FR curve vs one with a gently negatively-sloped.  Possible?  Different presentation of source sibilance?  I would say so.

 

Edit:  Oh, I forgot the obligatory :beerchug:

Use EQ for that, I wouldn't buy an amp with an FR that was not flat. Sibilance is a peaked response not a gentle slope. For that one would need a notch filter, best achieved using a parametric EQ. If it's the headphones, then I'd toss mine out and get a good pair. I once bought a cheap pair of IEMs, $75 Kilpsch Image S4a, which had a terrible peak that caused sibilance. I was able to mostly correct that with the parametric EQ in Neutron MP on my smartphone.  I never use that IEM.

No amp comes with a notch filter perfectly tuned to the offensive frequency peak that solves the issues of all IEMS/cans. That's not realistic.

In the case of the HE-500, no such problem.

:beerchug:


Edited by StanD - Today at 5:24 am
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I frequently read, without having tried, that Violetric tends to make a warm amp that is more laidback slightly than other amps. I could cite individual people, but the consensus seems fairly obvious.

How would this fit in with its FR, and why would Vioelectric "make such an amp"? This is often contrasted to something like a Meier Classic or Asgard 2, which purportedly are less warm and less laidback, even bright when set against the Violectric V200 as a point if comparison. I read similar things about the Lake People G109, affiliated with Violectric, but to a lesser extent exhibiting a warm character. I ask this because my eyes are set on a new SS in the near future.

Thanks
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Originally Posted by Liu Junyuan View Post

I frequently read, without having tried, that Violetric tends to make a warm amp that is more laidback slightly than other amps. I could cite individual people, but the consensus seems fairly obvious.

How would this fit in with its FR, and why would Vioelectric "make such an amp"? This is often contrasted to something like a Meier Classic or Asgard 2, which purportedly are less warm and less laidback, even bright when set against the Violectric V200 as a point if comparison. I read similar things about the Lake People G109, affiliated with Violectric, but to a lesser extent exhibiting a warm character. I ask this because my eyes are set on a new SS in the near future.

Thanks

You might want to read up on Echoic Memory and discover that human beings are not good witnesses of the fine details of SQ, as our memory of the details of sound last a few seconds and are not very good for comparative purposes unless we compare using a switch and have the volume of both devices carefully matched (Fletcher-Munson, Equal Loudness Contour). This memory effect makes us susceptible to expectation, hence as you say "purportedly." I feel that most people are well intentioned but are tricked either by anecdote or our human conditions. I have an A/B switch and it is an eye (ear) opening experience.

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I have HE-500 and Schiit Vali. so now I must buy a DAC. which one do you suggest? Dragonfly, Schiit Modi, ODAC, HRT Streamer II, stoner acoustics UD120. Which one sounds better with HE-500?

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I have HE-500 and Schiit Vali. so now I must buy a DAC. which one do you suggest? Dragonfly, Schiit Modi, ODAC, HRT Streamer II, stoner acoustics UD120. Which one sounds better with HE-500?

The Schiit Modi 2 Uber works rather well, I use it for a secondary headphone site at home.

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The Schiit Modi 2 Uber works rather well, I use it for a secondary headphone site at home.

DELETED: Read it as Magni 2 Uber at first


Edited by KewlMunky - Today at 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by zoso86 View Post
 

I have HE-500 and Schiit Vali. so now I must buy a DAC. which one do you suggest? Dragonfly, Schiit Modi, ODAC, HRT Streamer II, stoner acoustics UD120. Which one sounds better with HE-500?

 

I like the Schiit Wyrd/ODAC combo for my USB DAC solution. Haven't tried it with Vali, but it sounds great paired with the Lyr or the Burson HA-160. Outstanding bass extension, impact and definition. Very good soundstage. Wyrd helps further clean up the ODAC's "blackground"- and along with that, the cleanliness of the punch, decay and (occasionally) the imaging. I'm very happy with the combo.

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