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I think what he was trying to say, is that the headphones have decent sensitivity and don't sound totally uncontrolled when they are underpowered. Supplying the proper amount of power (2w /ch) brings out the full bass and dynamic authority of the headphone.

I don't think that you need 2W/ch to get the HE-500's to perform. Look up the sensitivity of the HE-500's and do the math.

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Originally Posted by Hansotek View Post

I think what he was trying to say, is that the headphones have decent sensitivity and don't sound totally uncontrolled when they are underpowered. Supplying the proper amount of power (2w /ch) brings out the full bass and dynamic authority of the headphone.
I don't think that you need 2W/ch to get the HE-500's to perform. Look up the sensitivity of the HE-500's and do the math.
As I said, they're decently sensitive, and sound pretty good even if they aren't fully powered. I believe HiFiMan recommends 2w /ch for optimum performance.
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As I said, they're decently sensitive, and sound pretty good even if they aren't fully powered. I believe HiFiMan recommends 2w /ch for optimum performance.

At one point Hifiman recommended 1W and then removed any wattage specification, They recommmended their EF-5 Amp for the HE-500. That amp starts clipping below 1W.

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I was going to give the EF-5 a try until I took a closer look not really all that great from what I've read it takes a lot of modding to get a good sounding amp. Take a look over here -->http://www.head-fi.org/t/711004/hifiman-ef-5-headphone-amplifier-mods-and-rolls

 

I will agree it is a very cool looking little amp maybe someday HiFiMan will give it an overhaul..

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I've never heard Frank Sinatra in depth until now. I can't believe how amazing his voice is, and being introduced with the HE-500 gave such a stunning impression that I couldn't stop listening. The bass and midrange of these cans is so full and detailed I just can't stop listening!

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I was going to give the EF-5 a try until I took a closer look not really all that great from what I've read it takes a lot of modding to get a good sounding amp. Take a look over here -->http://www.head-fi.org/t/711004/hifiman-ef-5-headphone-amplifier-mods-and-rolls

 

I will agree it is a very cool looking little amp maybe someday HiFiMan will give it an overhaul..

Why bother as there are plenty of good amps out there that can deliver great sound without its owner having to go through any gymnastics. You saw that distortion curve, I don't think this dog is going to run.

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I know I mentioned it before but I really love what the Corda Classic does with the HE-500. It has plenty of power, in excess of 2W at the HE-500 impedance... the clarity is just beautiful. And with the crossfeed, on the right track, it completely changes the soundstage and imaging for the better.
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Been a pretty busy DIYer this evening. Even though I'm liquidating most of my 'extra' head-fi gear since I have a wedding on the not-so-distant horizon, I've always wanted to hear the HE500 from a speaker amp. Enter the Dayton DTA-120.

 

I traded my GO1000 for a DacMagic 100 earlier this week and got the DTA from parts-express for $100. It also came with a monstrous power supply, RCA cable, and 4 banana plugs. A Neutrik female TRS jack, 8" of speaker wire, and two soldering sessions later, voila!

 


Banana plug adapter.

 

Now the stack is assembled and I've been listening for about a half hour.

 

 


Initial impressions are decent. There's a lot of noise when the music isn't playing so I'm sure something impedance/power wise isn't matched well, but the sound is noticeably better than the DTA's headphone out. (It should be since I'm sure the HO was basically an afterthought. Although, frankly, it's no slouch...)

 

Sound from the speaker outs is much more dynamic and punchy than the HO. The DacMagic is also doing an excellent job through the optical out on my MBP. 

 

Will post more impressions later after more listening. May even do a write up comparing it to my ALO Pan Am stack!

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Been a pretty busy DIYer this evening. Even though I'm liquidating most of my 'extra' head-fi gear since I have a wedding on the not-so-distant horizon, I've always wanted to hear the HE500 from a speaker amp. Enter the Dayton DTA-120.



 



I traded my GO1000 for a DacMagic 100 earlier this week and got the DTA from parts-express for $100. It also came with a monstrous power supply, RCA cable, and 4 banana plugs. A Neutrik female TRS jack, 8" of speaker wire, and two soldering sessions later, voila!



 






Banana plug adapter.



 



Now the stack is assembled and I've been listening for about a half hour.



 




 






Initial impressions are decent. There's a lot of noise when the music isn't playing so I'm sure something impedance/power wise isn't matched well, but the sound is noticeably better than the DTA's headphone out. (It should be since I'm sure the HO was basically an afterthought. Although, frankly, it's no slouch...)



 



Sound from the speaker outs is much more dynamic and punchy than the HO. The DacMagic is also doing an excellent job through the optical out on my MBP. 



 



Will post more impressions later after more listening. May even do a write up comparing it to my ALO Pan Am stack!


 



Nice work. Now you can try everything in your home that has speaker terminals
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I am looking at trying some of these... I had the HE400 before and I liked the lower midrange, bass, speed etc. of them, but did not like the "tizzy" treble, sibilance and recessed upper midrange, do you think the HE500 can do a similar amount of bass to the HE400 with EQ? I am hoping for a more refined HE400, without the "tizzy" treble, sibilance, with more midrange around 1-4khz and a bigger soundstage, but I also would like to be able to get 90% of the bass that I had with the HE400, are the HE500 capable of good amounts of bass (at least 80-90% of HE400 with EQ?) Also do you think a NAD D1050 will be enough to power them decently? I cannot find the specs of the D1050 amp power. Also do the HE500 have any of that "tizzy" treble the HE400 has? Are the HE500 much better than the HE400i?


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I am looking at trying some of these... I had the HE400 before and I liked the lower midrange, bass, speed etc. of them, but did not like the "tizzy" treble, sibilance and recessed upper midrange, do you think the HE500 can do a similar amount of bass to the HE400 with EQ? I am hoping for a more refined HE400, without the "tizzy" treble, sibilance, with more midrange around 1-4khz and a bigger soundstage, but I also would like to be able to get 90% of the bass that I had with the HE400, are the HE500 capable of good amounts of bass (at least 80-90% of HE400 with EQ?) Also do you think a NAD D1050 will be enough to power them decently? I cannot find the specs of the D1050 amp power. Also do the HE500 have any of that "tizzy" treble the HE400 has? Are the HE500 much better than the HE400i?
I'm not sure about the amp question, but it sounds like the HE500 will check all the boxes for you.

Smoother, more relaxed treble - it's a huge step up from the HE400 here. No nasty spike. Sibilance is very rare, unless it it blatantly in the recording. These are astoundingly forgiving for a headphone with gobs of clarity, depth and detail. About as forgiving as you will get without going to the "dark' side.

Neutral mids - another check here. Simply the best mids in this price range. They will stand toe to toe with highend flagships like the HD800 and Beyer T1 in this category. IMO, the HE500's midrange beats the T1 easily and it can beat the HD800, depending on the recording.

Soundstage - yep. It's better and bigger than the HE400.

Bass - As a bass player, I will always be a basshead at heart. At the end of the day, it is my most critical and harsh critique point of a headphone. It will make or break the entire thing for me. And I will tell you, in no uncertain terms, of all the headphones I've tried, HE500 has the absolute best bass, hands down. I was, and still am, a big fan of the bass on the HE400, but when I switch to the HE500, I never find myself wishing for more bass. Quantity-wise, it's probably 90-95%, but HE500 goes deeper, hits hard as heck and is crystal clear. You certainly can eq in more, I have, and it responds very well. I tested it out once using the track "Get Low" by Dillon Francis, which contains a huge subbass drop right before it hits the booty shakin' part... It was enough to make you soil your pantaloon. So, yeah, I think you'll be satisfied.

As I said, I'm not sure about the NAD, but a warm, powerful amp like the Schiit Lyr will certainly help you drop the bass the hardest.
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