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Originally Posted by floorpug View Post

Got my HE500s today and I'm not sure if I like them..
Out of the box, they controlled sub-bass superbly.. and the mids were creamy... but the >~2kHz, the frequencies seemed a bit nasal and recessed to me.

After I applied an eq in Foobar, the sound is a fair bit better; less nasal and more highs... but I'm not convinced these are 5x better than the Shure SRH840s which are now only $149AU.

I will check the Impedance of the drivers with my friend's multimeter, will burn the HE500s in for at least 50 hours, then will take them to addicted to audio to compare them with the LCD3, SRH840s and grado RS1s with accompanying EQs..
I only committed myself to spending $700 knowing that I have 30 days to try them.
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If you really like your SRH840's then you would absolutely love the SRH1840's.   I'm just saying...

post #1517 of 18029
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post

so the 2 Watt  WA6-SE is a no?

If an iPhone drives it then so should the WA. I tried it from a mini3 and a Starving student and with SS I never go beyond 7 o'clock. Don't be worried about inability of driving these, you can plug them into grandma's transistor radio that she has on her night stand and you will be able to drive them nicely.

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If an iPhone drives it then so should the WA. I tried it from a mini3 and a Starving student and with SS I never go beyond 7 o'clock. Don't be worried about inability of driving these, you can plug them into grandma's transistor radio that she has on her night stand and you will be able to drive them nicely.

You can drive them off virtually anything, yes, but to really get the best out of them a nice wattage amp is desirable.


Edited by sregor - 6/22/12 at 12:15pm
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You can drive them off virtually anything, yes, but to really get the best out of them a nice wattage amp is desirable.

I don't understand. I have a 0.5w headphone amp and I cannot get past 9 o'clock with it. Do I need to go deaf before I can hear its (supposed) full potential? :D

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I don't understand. I have a 0.5w headphone amp and I cannot get past 9 o'clock with it. Do I need to go deaf before I can hear its (supposed) full potential? :D

 

 

.Sup,

 

That is my exact same question when it comes to the HE-6 confused_face_2.gif

post #1521 of 18029

Having tried my HE-6 on the following stereoamps (via HE-adapter):

 

- Abrahamsen V2.0 (70W 8ohm / 140W 4 ohm)

- Primare I32

- Rega Brio-R

- et al

 

and misc. headphone amps, I would say that the power hunt for the HE-6 is real - but often hyped to the unknown. 

 

The sound signature of the amp is equally important that Watts...

 

Having said that; the HE-500 also benefit from more Watts - oeh - sound signature, I mean. :)


Edited by Loevhagen - 6/22/12 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by .Sup View Post

I don't understand. I have a 0.5w headphone amp and I cannot get past 9 o'clock with it. Do I need to go deaf before I can hear its (supposed) full potential? biggrin.gif
Drivability has nothing to do with volume.
Rather it has everythIng to do with the tightness of the bass, tonality, and transient response.
Edited by voyager123 - 6/22/12 at 1:42pm
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I have bought a speaker amp specifically for HE-4 (which supposed to need more power than HE-500) and found nothing different from the headphone jack of the same amp when driven straight from speaker terminals without any resistors.

 

Edit: my Auditor even though it has several hundred times less power than CA Azur speaker amp it does everything better- from detail, tightness, it doesn't blur like speaker amp does. Maybe I need a speaker amp that costs twice as the Auditor to bring HE-500 to full potential and increase SQ by 2%...

I really wonder why HE-500 was advertised it can run from portable devices. Surely Hifiman would not advertise it that way if portable devices weren't up to the task and bring HE-500 to its full potential. Nobody buys headphones that are advertised that way but need a speaker amp instead.


Edited by .Sup - 6/22/12 at 1:51pm
post #1524 of 18029
Probably your amp itself has got a fairly powerful headphone amp built in.
Or you just have sloth ears.biggrin.gif I'm just joking, take it easy.
post #1525 of 18029
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Originally Posted by voyager123 View Post

Probably your amp itself has got a fairly powerful headphone amp built in.
Or you just have sloth ears.biggrin.gif I'm just joking, take it easy.

hehe it is very powerful, very bassy like. At first I thought this would be the perfect amp- it has tone controls (for HD-800's bass or lack of it), multiple inputs, nice looks but the SQ just wasn't comparable to the Auditor. It has a nice sound just technically its way below Auditor.

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I have spent the last days with HE-500 and a Project Sunrise II. The latter is USD 279 built and with a travel case - the synergy is crazy good. I am stunned...

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Yep that's the mystery I'm wondering about.  So much in the audio world is total BS so it's hard to say for sure without trying myself or referring to tests.  It seems that the HE series phones have the potential to scale with more power, but really power isn't everything with it.  More watts doesn't seem to directly equal better sound.  That being said I've seen some prefer the WA22 which is 1500mw? to the other woo amps so really who's to say.  It's a real mystery.  My little dot mkii works like a champ and it's only like 250mw so idk.

post #1528 of 18029

I don't know what the output of my 2Stepdance is at 38 ohms but I gotta say that the HE-500 sound pretty frakking good.  

 

Synergy is a real thing though.  With my Sansui AU-717 I did not like any headphones hooked up to it and its headphone output was out of this world with power.  Power, not a problem.  Control and focus were a problem though.

post #1529 of 18029

A well designed amp should possess excellent grip and control over the headphone. Then synergy, which is about getting the correct tonality to suit the listener. I am getting crazily good results with the HE500 on the 2Step, L3 and a few other portable amps.

 

However, best for me so far with the HE500, is the V200 and its >800 damping factorwink_face.gif

post #1530 of 18029

I miss my HE-500! They really are incredible headphone. 

 

A little bit off-topic, does anyone know where I can see measurements of different headphones with and without using an amp to see exactly what changes?

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