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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Yeah i agree... And u have brands who use same internals but put priorities on better outer esthetics and increase price accordingly...i go for the brands who try to improve their stuff in soundquality...

My experience: even during the built of my amp (..my amp took a year to finish..normally it takes 3-6 months after ordering)..it took so long partly because i three times got this mail: am trying something new on ur amp to make it sound better..give me some weeks to test it out...yess..even during the built this crazy dude tries to improve what he builts (my powersupply went through 4 Different enclosures before he was happy!)..and i never ever paid any dime more then agreed initially...i only waited longer and longer..lolz... For me thats very important...and that i only paid half upfront and half when it was ready to ship(with pics) and he periodically sent me pics of the process...

But am sure some other brands would do the same with custombuilding..upgrading stuff while building but not quoting u for that..just as a matter of proces and customer satisfaction.

Gilbert probably missed a few car payments because of you. :wink_face:

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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post

I think we all just agreed on something. beerchug.gif
Hoooray. beerchug.gif

.u see..we can do it....being nice to each other..stand even said he liked the looks of my amp..now at that moment my mouth fell on the floor..hehehehe

But seriously..if we dont forget that we are here for same reason..our passion to listen to music the best way WE THINK is possible... We will be fine...And i know on certain areas we are millions miles apart from each other..but deep inside we think the same....as we love the same...music!!!!!!
Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/8/14 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Hoooray. beerchug.gif

.u see..we can do it....being nice to each other..stand even said he liked the looks of my amp..now at that moment my mouth fell on the floor..hehehehe

But seriously..if we dont forget that we are here for same reason..our passion to listen to music the best way WE THINK is possible... And i know on certain areas we are millions miles apart from each other..but deep inside we think the same....as we love the same...music!!!!!!

I can agree with that. :beerchug:

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

Gilbert probably missed a few car payments because of you. wink_face.gif
or he just cared more about me being satisfied (as he knows i was a very very very very very demanding dude and maybe even sometimes a pita!) and happy with my amp more then of earning those extra dollars, and i am not only Bc customer who has this experience..and this way of treating his customers makes him having a waiting time of at least 6months (the new owner of that new to built bc amp told me that) for ordering and why he is doing so well (and has an excellent reputation) for so many years... His loyal and satisfied customers are his best advertisment..

.just look at me..i cant shut up about it.. biggrin.gif
trust me ..if i am not extremely happy i wouldnt even mention it anywhere (and would have sold it).. Just like the he400 i once had and didnt like it....no word about that phone from me.. wink.gif

Wish more brands were like that brand..most brand are after sales priority..i understand sales is important to survive..but...oh well..am glad i found a few brands who try to be different then the mainstream thinking of selling stuff cool.gif

And now i shut up....as i talk to much especially about stuff i like..can u imagine how i am when i start talking about tuning cars..lolz very_evil_smiley.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 8/8/14 at 3:35pm
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If anyone in here is interested, I'm (very woefully) selling my HE-500's due to my moving into an apartment independently from my parents, and I need the funds for the new apartment furniture, appliances, etc. $499 for just the headphones or $600 with the Codia Headphone Stand and Claire Hybrid cable by Forza Audio Works. smily_headphones1.gif
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Not that I'm defending the Darkstar, again I've never heard it nor care to, but I'm fairly certain considering it's a SRPP, it is using fets not opamps, so I'm confused as to how the gainclone is the same design? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Ultramus View Post

Not that I'm defending the Darkstar, again I've never heard it nor care to, but I'm fairly certain considering it's a SRPP, it is using fets not opamps, so I'm confused as to how the gainclone is the same design? confused.gif
whats a gainclone?
post #14408 of 14897
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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post
 

I agree it shouldn't.  There are lots of simple designs out there that are free to rip and put in a box for little money, and there should be some stuff on the market like that.  The darkstar is a good example of someone overcharging for nice case work for an already existing design (for those who don't know, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gainclone).

 

As hifimanrookie pointed out not all designs are equal and you get into R&D costs, boutique parts, original design, etc.  A lot of amplifier designers are on a quest to get the absolute best sound and are constantly asking how they can make something sound even better than their best work. This of course varies company to company.

I was assuming he linked to what he is saying the Darkstar is, or is he just saying that is an affordable DIY design.

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Originally Posted by Ultramus View Post

I was assuming he linked to what he is saying the Darkstar is, or is he just saying that is an affordable DIY design.
Oh now i understand...well i will shut up..dont know anything about that,..
post #14410 of 14897

I picked up a very nice amp through one of the diy forums here in Oz

It has Hammond trans and choke feeding a Sophia 274b with Pio follower cap in a separate chassis , separated power feeds into the amp one line for heaters one for plates

Main amp is WE 421a into 7308 Amperex with an Alps blue velvet pot and dual outputs

Price was slightly less than the parts cost , many of the enthusiast diy builders enjoy building more than using it seems and so often sell off the latest build to finance the next

I admit I was very lucky but I have seen a similar amp made by a German builder and quite a few b22 if you like SS , it's just a matter of keeping an eye on the forums

post #14411 of 14897
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Originally Posted by Ultramus View Post
 

Not that I'm defending the Darkstar, again I've never heard it nor care to, but I'm fairly certain considering it's a SRPP, it is using fets not opamps, so I'm confused as to how the gainclone is the same design? :confused:

 

You could be right that it's not the same. I could be misinformed so please excuse me if so.  I've seen a lot of people independently make such remarks though.

 

Here's some info http://www.head-fi.org/t/545796/rsa-dark-star-se-and-balanced-dual-chassis-amp-designed-to-drive-most-any-hp/120

 

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People with no electronics experience regularly comment on how gear is built, without question... Why should someone WITH experience with very similar circuits be excluded from offering an opinion?

 

Exactly.  Any claims of this being "awesome" are made by people who just look at the fancy casework and have no idea just how much crap that circuit and PSU really are.  I've been looking at this for a while now and I do think this is the worst thing Ray has ever made and considering just how bad the A-10 is that says quite a bit.  One just has to look at the datasheet for the OPA541 to see how horrible a choice it is for audio use and something like the LM3886 would be a far better choice.  Still that would just make it a cheap gainclone amp that would be murdered by something properly designed like the Krell Ari suggested or something like a Firstwatt F5.  I feel very sorry for anybody who would buy this and I'm very interested to see this measured in full.  I'm sure some of the claims Ray is making will not stand up to scrutiny..


Edited by Llloyd - 8/8/14 at 6:32pm
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I just took a peek at the schematics for the FirstWatt F5, it looks interesting.

post #14413 of 14897
Uhhhh reading through that thread it is just 1 poster(spritzer) slinging conjecture around without knowing at all what is inside the amp, and getting warned by Jude in the process. I'd hardly call that evidence.

Yes Stan, I want the...f3? Or f4, whichever is a pure current buffer.
post #14414 of 14897
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Originally Posted by Ultramus View Post

Uhhhh reading through that thread it is just 1 poster(spritzer) slinging conjecture around without knowing at all what is inside the amp, and getting warned by Jude in the process. I'd hardly call that evidence.

Yes Stan, I want the...f3? Or f4, whichever is a pure current buffer.

I think that'll be the F4. Keep in mind that it has no voltage gain so you will need probably need a preamp.

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

I think that'll be the F4. Keep in mind that it has no voltage gain so you will need probably need a preamp.
Yeah, I can use the Mjolnir as the preamp, and the volume control. It just sounds so cool to have current gain, I'm curious how that would sound on a variety of headphones. I'll openly admit that is more my intrigue with the concept than trying to gain any SQ
Edited by Ultramus - 8/8/14 at 10:14pm
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