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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

Do you get a sales commission?
eventhough u try to be funny..u know what u just posted is a dangerous thing right? People get banned or worse for that! Its not even funny to make a joke about that..as many honest brands/people are wrongfully accused and in worst cases get banned..and here in europe u can get jailtime for that!!!..and NAMES destroyed..well..am sure part of my name is already down the drain because of such smartass jokes like urs.

.because of jokes like that (its not first time u used this joke against me!) i got a pm from one of our beloved moderators asking me if i am paid by a certain brand as SOMEONE asked him about me being paid by brands...was that u maybe? This is nuts!!!
! And i told him straight what i thought about that......

being funny is one thing..but using these kind of jokes is almost slandering! So pls...use ur head like u say u use a lot!

And dont joke about SERIOUS things who can damage people...i already felt it by receiving that ' friendly' pm from a moderator...and its a lie..if i would be paid by anyone i would probably have the most expensive rig here on headfi....as i dont do half work! But u wouldnt even know it... As i would be super 'positive' about the stuff Guys like u wanna and can buy...and not the stuff i owe for which i work sometimes 12hrs a day and in weekends...
...if u wanna be funny..use ur head...ur not funny.....

And to all of u..saying or thinking i am overreacting: i would like to see ur face when a moderator asks u if ur being paid off... With the risk of being banned or worse...And then tell me if i am overreacting on this 'joke'.

And to be hinest..i dont even know why i bother sinking so low as u are...and i am so silly..thinking ur a great guy...damn..how could i be so wrong...who needs friends like u..trying to ...in every way they can...
Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/26/14 at 4:55pm
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That one was a little sudden, but I totally understand you! Crossing the ways of mods is never funny.. 

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post

That one was a little sudden, but I totally understand you! Crossing the ways of mods is never funny.. 
no it isnt and some people are playing very dirty my friend..probably PAID off people by certain competitive brands to discredit me because i like their competitors...and those paid off people this timed used the moderators to do their work..the moderators cant help it..its their job to check it out..even if there is the slighest doubt..and i deeply respect them..no wrong word about them! Without them headfi would be a total chaos with only one rule..the strongest and most devious wins.
Am not saying stan is paid off...am sure he isnt..he justbtried to be funny..as he always does....but those jokes only give more powder on the guns of those who are willing to scratch me (and other honest people, i am sure) from headfi..or even worse hit the brands i love so much....as for some (headphone/cable/headphone amp) brands headfi is a big part of their income..and it could seriously criple them...And i dont believe no one with the heart on the right side on headfi.wants that!

Thanks for understanding..hope my post makes people open up their eyes that jokes like this can actually do lots of hurt! And i felt it already..... And its not fun knowing people are after u..hiding behind this virtual world and using our moderators or others against u...in real life i would find out who tried to frame me..as i did many times now...that was my job once..
.i asked the moderator for the name of the guy who asked him to check me out...but never got an answer who it was..and i asked him also: ask urself why That person asked u to do that.....yep..no answer also. redface.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/26/14 at 5:25pm
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


eventhough u try to be funny..u know what u just posted is a dangerous thing right? People get banned or worse for that! Its not even funny to make a joke about that..as many honest brands/people are wrongfully accused and in worst cases get banned..and here in europe u can get jailtime for that!!!..and NAMES destroyed..well..am sure part of my name is already down the drain because of such smartass jokes like urs.

.because of jokes like that (its not first time u used this joke against me!) i got a pm from one of our beloved moderators asking me if i am paid by a certain brand as SOMEONE asked him about me being paid by brands...was that u maybe? This is nuts!!!
! And i told him straight what i thought about that......

being funny is one thing..but using these kind of jokes is almost slandering! So pls...use ur head like u say u use a lot!

And dont joke about SERIOUS things who can damage people...i already felt it by receiving that ' friendly' pm from a moderator...and its a lie..if i would be paid by anyone i would probably have the most expensive rig here on headfi....as i dont do half work! But u wouldnt even know it... As i would be super 'positive' about the stuff Guys like u wanna and can buy...and not the stuff i owe for which i work sometimes 12hrs a day and in weekends...
...if u wanna be funny..use ur head...ur not funny.....

And to all of u..saying or thinking i am overreacting: i would like to see ur face when a moderator asks u if ur being paid off... With the risk of being banned or worse...And then tell me if i am overreacting on this 'joke'.

And to be hinest..i dont even know why i bother sinking so low as u are...and i am so silly..thinking ur a great guy...damn..how could i be so wrong...who needs friends like u..trying to ...in every way they can...

Are you serious? I didn't perceive you pushing any particular brand, just pushing the high priced concept and responded with humor. Chill out dude.

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Are you serious? I didn't perceive you pushing any particular brand, just pushing the high priced concept and responded with humor. Chill out dude.

 

Yeah, I went back and actually read all the posts on page 947 and didn't perceive anything near amounting to Blue Circle BLUE CIRCLE BLUE CIRCLE!  Nor have I ever seen HiFi say, And be sure to mention my name at checkout!  There's certainly a difference between shilling and proselytizing.  Seems there's a rat out there somewhere.  Touchy subject, to be sure.  Chillaxin' is in order.

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

i am guessing ur replying to my post..i didnt say they dont pair wel..they do actually..but i was just comparing budget amps to more higher end amps.. For a budget amp it does very well..but u can do better..thats what i meant..nothing wrong with that amp if u get the right (buggle?) tubes in it for its money worth. wink.gif
And is a very good choice for stepping into better sounding amps for the he500, just like the 337/339 amps...both in same price range..and both bety good in driving the he500.. With the right tubes ofcourse. biggrin.gif

Yeah, I understand there must be better amps than the Lyr. Would it be right to call that a budget amp? Then what would that make a magni? It seems more like mid-tierish, but I know that amps can indeed get very pricey (not to say that price alway leads to better performance).
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Originally Posted by Liu Junyuan View Post

Yeah, I understand there must be better amps than the Lyr. Would it be right to call that a budget amp? Then what would that make a magni? It seems more like mid-tierish, but I know that amps can indeed get very pricey (not to say that price alway leads to better performance).
With budget i dont mean it negatively..i mean in the way as affordable..its indeed mid tier as the other amps i mentioned (337/339).
Magni is more low tier..still a very good amp i understand for the price. (Never heard one though)

And ur right about: more expensive doesnt nessesary mean better wink.gif but some are better sounding (and thats also a very subjective area)then others...in the end its all about how they make u feel..if they make u feel good when u listen to music...then u should stick to them..as thats whats music listening is all about..making the owners happy..no matter how bad or how good the measurements are. If ur ears say more more MORE..then u have the right rig for u... wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/26/14 at 8:19pm
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I tried HE-500 with the new hybrid pads and it almost made me sell the headphones. It sounded like the pads were literally filled with mud as the sound was very muddy, weird.
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As far as amps, I consider myself fairly bias free and empirical in how I rate things, and the ef2a sounded inferior to the Mjolnir through the same dac, the Asgard didn't impress me when I heard it, though neither did the liquid gold. I know that analog circuits can be tricky, but I think the Mjolnir and similar are pretty much as good as it gets. I really can't see myself being able to distinguish it from a cavalli, phonitor, bryston, at least not repeatedly. The BC HiFi has I'm sure is high quality, but again put it next to the MJ and any difference will be less than the resolution of my brain will allow.

What baffles me is that we don't have someone taking a scope and getting hard numbers on everything, irrefutable proof of which amps are enough and which suck.I could tell a difference between a magni and the MJ, but not between the MJ and something equally competent so I stopped, to me it's the hard cap of performance, I would be amazed if anything could sound significantly better to be immediately noticeable, I agree with Stan, anything further it is all in our heads.
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We have hard numbers, or at least good estimates.
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This is also one of those emotionally charged topics. Apparently, when it comes to audio, there are many. :D

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Originally Posted by Ultramus View Post

As far as amps, I consider myself fairly bias free and empirical in how I rate things, and the ef2a sounded inferior to the Mjolnir through the same dac, the Asgard didn't impress me when I heard it, though neither did the liquid gold. I know that analog circuits can be tricky, but I think the Mjolnir and similar are pretty much as good as it gets. I really can't see myself being able to distinguish it from a cavalli, phonitor, bryston, at least not repeatedly. The BC HiFi has I'm sure is high quality, but again put it next to the MJ and any difference will be less than the resolution of my brain will allow.

What baffles me is that we don't have someone taking a scope and getting hard numbers on everything, irrefutable proof of which amps are enough and which suck.I could tell a difference between a magni and the MJ, but not between the MJ and something equally competent so I stopped, to me it's the hard cap of performance, I would be amazed if anything could sound significantly better to be immediately noticeable, I agree with Stan, anything further it is all in our heads.
Just To give an example on ur post and a question to u: do u actually believe that a mjolnir with a he500 will be just as good (or better) as a sr007 (midrange stax) with A midrange stax amp? I choose this as an believable example as almost no one believes my amp sounds (almost) just as good with my code-x biggrin.gif

Btw..I also heard here on headfi that some respected headfi'ers were not to impressed of the cavalli liquid gold either;)..so thats not news to me. wink.gif

But my friend..if u love ur mjolnir (which was on my shortlist to buy last year!!!) then stick to it..its a very goid amp.
Edited by hifimanrookie - 7/28/14 at 7:55am
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I've only briefly heard the 007 through a kghsv(sp?) And an 009 through a cavalli Electra, I thought they sounded good if not too polite but again, that wasn't ideal listening environment. But yes, I think the stax are at the point where you are better off with speakers, which again, I think that is where I will go next, the MJ&NFB+he-500 is at that stage where I am convinced that significant improvement can only be made with multiple drivers, you need a woofer, midrange, and tweeter with a well designed crossover, there is simply a limit to what a single driver can do, and I think current totl headphones are pushing that. There is only so much excursion and diaphragm size you can cram onto your noggin.

Maybe your setup would change my mind, who knows.
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Multiple drivers and crossovers also have their own pros and cons. I think the easy gains have been made with large single headphone drivers and subsequent innovation will produce less pronounced improvements across the board as we are already seeing, but I don't think it renders single drivers obsolete. As far as I can tell both Audeze and Hifiman are experimenting a lot with different drivers and personally I think its great the Hifiman have moved on to thinner diaphragms to make single magnet assemblies worthwhile. The improvement in comfort will take them into mainstream territory and I think they will have lots of success with the HE-400i.

 

I'd also rather have a good speaker setup than going the Stax route. Currently have a very decent set of bookshelf speakers with a single 12" sealed subwoofer and I'm looking forward to adding another sub  in the future rather than spending more money on my headphone rig. It has taken nearly 3-4 times the budget to get the speaker setup to exceed the HE-500 with my modest Concero DAC and Mini-X though and in Head-Fi territory would bring you into TOTL equipment.

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Which cable is this?
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