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post #14161 of 14174

well, I'm upgrading from a sony xb-900 out of an on-board realtek to using the he-500 out of a speaker amp, not that big of a difference eh :evil: 
so I'm willing to bet that upgraditis will remain in recession for a long time while I save up my dimes and quarters :D
oh,by the way, is it a good idea to hookup a pc sound card to the amp's input ?
would I get the extra features offered by that card ? and what advantages or disadvantages does that route hold instead of going with something like the odac with RCA outs :normal_smile : ?

post #14162 of 14174
Odac would be a nice upgrade over the onboard.
post #14163 of 14174
That or a Modi.
post #14164 of 14174

beware with the modi, i couldnt stand the treble when using the modi/emo/jergpads and had found that the velours were better than the jergpads in this setup due to it's less bright lower treble/upper mids. Just.... be careful with bright setups

post #14165 of 14174
I know what you mean about the Modi. What are you using now?
post #14166 of 14174

I have recently acquired the He-500.  I find when I listen to them my ears get fatigued fairly quickly and it feels like it is from the bass.  This being my first taste of orthodynamics except for a 10 minute try out of the LCD2 I am not used to this much bass.  However when I switch to a pair of AKG712 headphones (with far less bass), everything over the entire range feels a bit hollow over the whole range.  Or does bass really cause much fatigue - is it usually coming from higher frequencies?  I am using an Musicstreamer II+ and an Asgard 2.  I will probably end up just messing with the equalizer in Foobar but any suggestions would help.  It feels silly to EQ out the deep bass that the orthos do so well

 

Other than that these are by far the best sounding headphones I have ever worn.  The detail is marvelous.  And everything just feels so natural.  I was a bit disappointed with the sound stage at first, especially after hearing the HD800 recently, but I kind of realized that a lot of my music might not necessarily have a wide soundstage.

post #14167 of 14174

Haha actually if I use the low gain setting on the Asgard it helps reduce some of the low end bass while still keeping the fullness across the range.  The 712 and the 500 sound remarkably similar in that case.  Again it does seem silly to me to change the sound of the HE-500 to sound like the AKG712.  Might as well pick one or the other.  The 500s are still an edge more detailed and sound closer and more realistic, just seems funny to make one headphone sound like another.  

 

I am undecided on the 500s.  They are the best headphone I have really had a chance to listen to that is reasonably affordable and reasonably easy to drive.  But they don't seem to agree with me quite yet.  Perhaps I need a burn in period!

post #14168 of 14174

try burning them in for a couple of days and then give us your impressions :smile:
and imho I don't think that your asgard is providing enough current for your he-500, just saying :rolleyes:

post #14169 of 14174
Please don't blame it on the amp. Regardless, I tend to get fatigued by HE-500 at times, though not by 5le and 560. Seems it's from the bass though I'm not sure. I know MLE has had problems with bass fatigue from different headphones as well.
post #14170 of 14174
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Originally Posted by shayson1357 View Post
 

try burning them in for a couple of days and then give us your impressions :smile:
and imho I don't think that your asgard is providing enough current for your he-500, just saying :rolleyes:

If the Asgard 2 didn't supply enough current, the result would be less bass and as a consequence there would be gobs of distortion. Clearly not the case.

post #14171 of 14174
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post

If the Asgard 2 didn't supply enough current, the result would be less bass and as a consequence there would be gobs of distortion. Clearly not the case.
Not enough power can also be shown as raw sound...peaky treble or uncontrolled bass and so a Very fatiqueing sound...a wellchosen and powerful enough amp should give the he500 a wellbalanced and relaxing sound signature in which the midrange really shines...bass and treble would sound a bit recessed...not agressive at all.
post #14172 of 14174

Thanks for the suggestions.  The headphones were bought used and are about 6-7 months old.  I am presuming they are burned in but I don't reliably know how much they were used.  The Asgard 2 and the MSII+ are the only components I have heard the HE500 with.  Perhaps I just happen to have a combination that doesn't work for me.  I might see if I can take my headphones to a store and test them out with other combinations.  

 

Unfortunately the solution is probably the good old give it a few weeks and see how I feel.  Maybe it will provide an excuse to look at the HE560!

post #14173 of 14174

acceptable bass quantity is a relative subject, the he-500 is a really bass-light headphone when compared to the Sony xb series headphones for example but bass heavy when compared to some of Beyerdynamic's offerings, some people get fatigued really quickly with the Sony's ridiculous amount of bass while others can endure it for hours on end....so nothing is particularly wrong with he-500, just a matter of taste, you should try several headphones if you have the chance(including the 560) maybe you'll find a headphone that suits you :normal_smile : 

post #14174 of 14174
Yeah that is how I see it. I don't think anything is wrong with the he500. It just might be how my ears are. I do love the sound of it though so I am going to give it a few weeks and check out some other headphones in the meantime. It is tough to find high end headphones to try out where I am. I have been able to try out sennheiser and AKG high end headphones. Only the HD800 sounded better than the he500 to me. At about three times the cost
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