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post #13876 of 14629
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

I'm not sure if the shareholders will agree with you. I think they would have preferred receiving a $3B dividend.

I think Tim Cooke is going to regret this deal.

 

Apple has so much cash on hand, they could easily pay out a $3B dividend now, IF they wanted to. Clearly that's not their agenda. 

 

As much as I dislike Beats, I don't think this is a bad deal for Apple. It benefits them in many ways, and takes away one of the few perceived "cool" brands that could have given some much needed cachet to their competitors.

post #13877 of 14629
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Apple has so much cash on hand, they could easily pay out a $3B dividend now, IF they wanted to. Clearly that's not their agenda. 

 

As much as I dislike Beats, I don't think this is a bad deal for Apple. It benefits them in many ways, and takes away one of the few perceived "cool" brands that could have given some much needed cachet to their competitors.

It's not all about how much cash they have one hand, if ths deal ends up sucking wind, then the shareholders that vote for the board or directors, etc. will be mighty mad, it's their money, not Tim Cooke's.

post #13878 of 14629
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It's not all about how much cash they have one hand, if ths deal ends up sucking wind, then the shareholders that vote for the board or directors, etc. will be mighty mad, it's their money, not Tim Cooke's.

 

This is really off topic, but you think he doesn't own a ton of company stock? And as a CEO, isn't a lot of his income derived from stock options? I haven't bothered to look it up for him specifically, but for most CEO's that is the case. I'm sure he's well aware that he could be ousted if it doesn't go well, and sure it's POSSIBLE it could "suck wind" as you say, but I seriously doubt it. I can see a number of ways that this deal supports their current business, plus we have no idea what directions they are looking to move into that this could also benefit. Beats is quite profitable now so provided it stays that way for a couple years it will pay for itself. 

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This is really off topic, but you think he doesn't own a ton of company stock? And as a CEO, isn't a lot of his income derived from stock options? I haven't bothered to look it up for him specifically, but for most CEO's that is the case. I'm sure he's well aware that he could be ousted if it doesn't go well, and sure it's POSSIBLE it could "suck wind" as you say, but I seriously doubt it. I can see a number of ways that this deal supports their current business, plus we have no idea what directions they are looking to move into that this could also benefit. Beats is quite profitable now so provided it stays that way for a couple years it will pay for itself. 

Perhaps, but after listening to the HE-500's one cannot understand why they would burn that much cash on Beats. That was my feeble attempt to steer us back onto topic. :D So how about getting back to headphones that actually sound great.

post #13880 of 14629
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Perhaps, but after listening to the HE-500's one cannot understand why they would burn that much cash on Beats. That was my feeble attempt to steer us back onto topic. :D So how about getting back to headphones that actually sound great.

 

Yea, why couldn't apple create a higher sounding quality headphone that crushes beats with all that money? The market needs more options which sound good and look good, not more beats by apple.


Edited by TWerk - 6/10/14 at 6:23pm
post #13881 of 14629
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Yea, why couldn't apple create a higher sounding quality headphone that crushes beats with all that money? The market needs more options which sound good and look good, not more beats by apple.

They should have bought out Dr. Fang. Still trying to get back on topic :D 

post #13882 of 14629
They didn't buy hifiman because it's more of a niche market, AND they didn't have a streaming service to go along with it! Nor did they have Jimmy or Dre, but whatever...

Ironically, imagine if they had bought hifiman, but instead of keeping them the high-end audiophile company that they are, they turn them into a beats wannabe. Would you really have preferred that? I certainly wouldn't. At least this way they can only improve Beats, rather than mess up a company we like and support. And how would that deal have gone gone over with their shareholders?

That aside, I do think apple should license the RE-400 to include as the stock earbuds on the iPhone!
post #13883 of 14629
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Originally Posted by thievesarmy View Post

They didn't buy hifiman because it's more of a niche market, AND they didn't have a streaming service to go along with it! Nor did they have Jimmy or Dre, but whatever...

Ironically, imagine if they had bought hifiman, but instead of keeping them the high-end audiophile company that they are, they turn them into a beats wannabe. Would you really have preferred that? I certainly wouldn't. At least this way they can only improve Beats, rather than mess up a company we like and support. And how would that deal have gone gone over with their shareholders?

That aside, I do think apple should license the RE-400 to include as the stock earbuds on the iPhone!

+1

post #13884 of 14629
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Originally Posted by thievesarmy View Post

They didn't buy hifiman because it's more of a niche market, AND they didn't have a streaming service to go along with it! Nor did they have Jimmy or Dre, but whatever...

Ironically, imagine if they had bought hifiman, but instead of keeping them the high-end audiophile company that they are, they turn them into a beats wannabe. Would you really have preferred that? I certainly wouldn't. At least this way they can only improve Beats, rather than mess up a company we like and support. And how would that deal have gone gone over with their shareholders?

That aside, I do think apple should license the RE-400 to include as the stock earbuds on the iPhone!

And they could increase the price of the total package, NOT. They would sell everything at higher prices. Are you ready for a Red HE-560?

post #13885 of 14629
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

And they could increase the price of the total package, NOT. They would sell everything at higher prices. Are you ready for a Red HE-560?

 

And what, exactly, is wrong with that?

 

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/619447/hifiman-regrilling-mod/210#post_10250165

 

 

:darthsmile:

post #13886 of 14629
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

And what, exactly, is wrong with that?

 

 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/619447/hifiman-regrilling-mod/210#post_10250165

 

 

:darthsmile:

Where's the red wires and ear cups? I said RED not a touch of red. Dre doesn't do anything small, except for SQ.

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How do people feel about using these for gaming? Whether it be on console with Dolby Headphone or particularly with a Creative X-fi card (that's the one I'll be getting... The titanium HD). Anyone know how its bass fares to a AKG Annie/K712 Pro?

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I don't like the HE-500 for playing games and if I do I prefer to keep the lights on... Sounds effects sound too real and often I end up looking over my shoulder to figure out whether the noise was from the outside or from the game! Whilst the sound staging is good for games, there are headphones out there that are better, but the HE-500 generally has great width (which is why you keep looking over your shoulder). If you have the right amp, then the bass is quite excellent. I always find it amazing how much effort designers put into the audio of games and then people end up playing games with cheap headsets and PC speakers... The HE-500 really adds some meat and impact to game sound effects!


Edited by daerron - 6/17/14 at 7:09am
post #13889 of 14629
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I don't like the HE-500 for playing games and if I do I prefer to keep the lights on... Sounds effects sound too real and often I end up looking over my shoulder to figure out whether the noise was from the outside or from the game! Whilst the sound staging is good for games, there are headphones out there that are better, but the HE-500 generally has great width (which is why you keep looking over your shoulder). If you have the right amp, then the bass is quite excellent. I always find it amazing how much effort designers put into the audio of games and then people end up playing games with cheap headsets and PC speakers...

You should try the sigmas then :rolleyes:

 

I don't really bother gaming with HE-500 anyway. Too heavy, also no exceptional experience IMO..

 

Regardless, I have puzzled with something like doing some gaming with my friends, dolby surround, lights off, soft glow of tubes and my sigmas delivering the sound. Then, find a really scary game of some sorts. Any suggestion for really scary game with good sound to boot?

 

Sorry for going OT by the way..

post #13890 of 14629
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

You should try the sigmas then :rolleyes:

 

I don't really bother gaming with HE-500 anyway. Too heavy, also no exceptional experience IMO..

 

Regardless, I have puzzled with something like doing some gaming with my friends, dolby surround, lights off, soft glow of tubes and my sigmas delivering the sound. Then, find a really scary game of some sorts. Any suggestion for really scary game with good sound to boot?

 

Sorry for going OT by the way..

 

Try Amnesia: The Dark Descent

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