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post #13441 of 16196
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Originally Posted by Dogmatrix View Post
 


I do things a little differently

I first remove the knurled portion completely this opens up access to the positive connection

Then I solder the ground to the back of the body

Cover with glue lined heat-shrink to finish

Some kind of magnifier helps allot

Good luck


How do you finish the split to the phones using the canare star quad? Where do you purchase your heat shrink? Any other suggestions?? Thanks

post #13442 of 16196
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Originally Posted by antikryst View Post

What were you using before?

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The M-stage modded with the OPA627.
post #13443 of 16196
So... I know that most people who have tried the alpha pads on the he-500's like the comfort but tend to think that they sound worse. I have to share my experience over the last couple of days using them against the lcd-2's, and compared to the jergpads i find the treble much closer to the lcd-2's with the alpha pads but with just a bit more sparkle. To my ears it makes the treble response much less peaky and tames the 9khz spike considerably. The alpha pads also bring vocals much closer to the lcd-2's. I think they are filling in the 5-6 khz dip in the mids but not sure the reasoning i feel the mids are better. Also sound is more holographic due to the angled drivers. If i push the back of the driver in so it isn't angled, the sound becomes much less holographic and more 2-d.

In conclusion, comfort is improved, mids (primarily vocals) are more prominent, and the treble spike is tamed. It takes away from the airyness a bit, but the alpha pads help bring forth a more holographic effect due to the angle of the drivers. This helps add depth to the sound and make them feel much less 2-d if that makes sense.


ALPHA PADS_
-more bass presence then velours
-more apparent or spotlit vocals
-less treble spike
-less air between instruments
-more holographic
-more comfortable.
post #13444 of 16196
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Originally Posted by kernel8888 View Post

So... I know that most people who have tried the alpha pads on the he-500's like the comfort but tend to think that they sound worse. I have to share my experience over the last couple of days using them against the lcd-2's, and compared to the jergpads i find the treble much closer to the lcd-2's with the alpha pads but with just a bit more sparkle. To my ears it makes the treble response much less peaky and tames the 9khz spike considerably. The alpha pads also bring vocals much closer to the lcd-2's. I think they are filling in the 5-6 khz dip in the mids but not sure the reasoning i feel the mids are better. Also sound is more holographic due to the angled drivers. If i push the back of the driver in so it isn't angled, the sound becomes much less holographic and more 2-d.

In conclusion, comfort is improved, mids (primarily vocals) are more prominent, and the treble spike is tamed. It takes away from the airyness a bit, but the alpha pads help bring forth a more holographic effect due to the angle of the drivers. This helps add depth to the sound and make them feel much less 2-d if that makes sense.


ALPHA PADS_
-more bass presence then velours
-more apparent or spotlit vocals
-less treble spike
-less air between instruments
-more holographic
-more comfortable.

Try experimenting with cotton, I thought the alpha pads sounded way too thick and congested unmodded.

 

More cotton- less 100-60Hz, less 200Hz (albeit slight), more 6-9K, more 12K, and more treble extension overall.
 

post #13445 of 16196
Yea I actually like the more dense, less airy sound because it gives me something VERY close to the lcd-2 that i am returning and sounds absolutely fantastic for vocals, and i can switch to velours if i want a lighter more airy presentation while retaining the core of the he-500 sound.

The thing about the he-500 treble is this: while it pulls off one of the greatest paradoxical feats in the headphone world by having sparkly, airy, almost bright treble while at the same time being rarely to never sibilant or fatiguing. BUT there is a TIZZ present in all hifiman cans ive tried (he-400, he-500, he-4,5,6), and while the he-500 has the least tizz, it still takes away from making things sound "real". When i listen to sounds in real life they are usually presented with much less high frequency presency than most headphones have. To me the lcd-2.2 treble sounds about right, even though the mids are a bit forward and colored.

The alpha pads help to add a realness to the treble by reducing the spike and reducing the tizz, and enhancing the musicality in the midrange. That's my impression of them at least.
Edited by kernel8888 - 4/24/14 at 4:13pm
post #13446 of 16196
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Originally Posted by rnadell View Post
 


How do you finish the split to the phones using the canare star quad? Where do you purchase your heat shrink? Any other suggestions?? Thanks


I used TeckFlex on the wires it is a little micro-phonic but it is tough and easy to work nylon sleeve is better or para cord cover

Each end is finished with clear heat shrink with the connector and split covered with a piece of black glue lined heat shrink to seal everything the black is under the clear on the connector and over on the split

Electronic supply shops and fishing tackle shops carry heat shrink EBay is also good, Parts Connexion is a great on-line source for all kinds of cable related stuff

On my most recent cable for my hd800 I ran a single piece of star quad to each connector and all the way to the plug then double wired everything so no split or sleeve required . I think this would work on the HE500 but soldering two wires to that tiny little pin would be tricky.

post #13447 of 16196
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Originally Posted by Dogmatrix View Post
 


I used TeckFlex on the wires it is a little micro-phonic but it is tough and easy to work nylon sleeve is better or para cord cover

Each end is finished with clear heat shrink with the connector and split covered with a piece of black glue lined heat shrink to seal everything the black is under the clear on the connector and over on the split

Electronic supply shops and fishing tackle shops carry heat shrink EBay is also good, Parts Connexion is a great on-line source for all kinds of cable related stuff

On my most recent cable for my hd800 I ran a single piece of star quad to each connector and all the way to the plug then double wired everything so no split or sleeve required . I think this would work on the HE500 but soldering two wires to that tiny little pin would be tricky.

 

How do you get the glue-lined heat-shrink to stay in place until it's shrunk and stuck?

post #13448 of 16196
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

 

How do you get the glue-lined heat-shrink to stay in place until it's shrunk and stuck?


I use the heat from a candle flame to shrink it gives quite a narrow beam of heat so it is possible to hold the tube in place at one end and slowly pass the other end above the flame . The tube will react quickly when it hits the heat stream , once one end has shrunk you can let go and gradually work to the other end rotating as you go.

It takes a little practice to get the distance from the flame right too far and it won't shrink too close and it will burn

post #13449 of 16196
When I make cables I sleeve the splits and finish with heat shrink on the ends where the Y is, then I sleeve the rest and use a bigger heat shrink tube to go over the previous 2 and the sleeving for the bottom part. The cross section looks like this--> (8) imagine the parenthesis are connected.

Edit: I hold the cable horizontally with the heat shrinkin place and use a heat gun to shrink it.
Edited by Ultramus - 4/26/14 at 9:22am
post #13450 of 16196
I'm planing to get HE500, but somewhat unsure what amp/dac combo to get. Is magni modi better over vali modi? Would magni odac be a possibility? Lastly, I'm also considering audio gd 11.32. Which is the best option? Budget is 300€ but might boost up to 400.
Edited by MunDa - 4/26/14 at 2:09pm
post #13451 of 16196
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Originally Posted by MunDa View Post

I'm planing to get HE500, but somewhat unsure what amp/dac combo to get. Is magni modi better over vali modi? Would magni odac be a possibility? Lastly, I'm also considering audio gd 11.32. Which is the best option? Budget is 300€ but might boost up to 400.

If you go the Audio Gd route, you can use it as a standalone DAC later and with an upgraded amp or a speaker amp such as a mini-x. You can then use the Audio Gd to control the volume of the DAC going into your amp, meaning the volume pot on the amp is more controllable from a 50W (into 8ohms) speaker amp. The Audio Gd's on its own have plenty of power and sound quite good with the HE500s. The 11.32 is more neutral sounding, the 15.32 is slightly warmer. I haven't heard any of the schiit gear

post #13452 of 16196

Hey all... I have researched but cannot find exactly what I'm looking for. For my HE500, I'm looking to upgrade my RCA interconnect between my Lyr and Uber Bitfrost. I like a warm signature with good bass response and sparkly highs so I have found Amperex 7308's in the Lyr to my liking. I have tried Schiit's own PYST - (ok), Anticable Level 2 - (better), JPS Superconductor+ (about the same as Anticable). I'm willing to spend what it takes to improve the sound I have now. I think I would be better off with copper IC's instead of silver for my preference of a warm signature. Anybody have any recommendations for a good/great IC?

post #13453 of 16196
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

If you go the Audio Gd route, you can use it as a standalone DAC later and with an upgraded amp or a speaker amp such as a mini-x. You can then use the Audio Gd to control the volume of the DAC going into your amp, meaning the volume pot on the amp is more controllable from a 50W (into 8ohms) speaker amp. The Audio Gd's on its own have plenty of power and sound quite good with the HE500s. The 11.32 is more neutral sounding, the 15.32 is slightly warmer. I haven't heard any of the schiit gear
thank you for ur advice. From what I've read, the HE500 is on the warm side. So, the gd 11.32 would be a better match right?
post #13454 of 16196
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Originally Posted by MunDa View Post


thank you for ur advice. From what I've read, the HE500 is on the warm side. So, the gd 11.32 would be a better match right?

I don't think the HE500s are warm, but that all depends on whos listening ;0

post #13455 of 16196
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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post

I don't think the HE500s are warm, but that all depends on whos listening ;0
lol. Very true. I'm also thinking pairing it with dx90 as I would like to have some portability within the house. But not sure if dx90 standalone will be able to drive em.
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