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FWIW, the cups are the same diameter, and while the headband won't be sold separately, it wouldn't take a whole lot to swap them out, at least I can't imagine it would, if you're determined enough. 


Haha... possibly. Determined, that I am. But the again I would still have to convince someone to let go of his 560 headband. Anyone???  :D 

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Finally got around to getting a headphone stand. 

 

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Might have to pick up a pair of HE-500's in the next month if I can find them for around $500. With the release of the HE-560 I think I can score a great deal. :D

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What would be the cheapest  amp that would work well with the 500? Would something like the magni work?

 

Seems people are saying it requires 1-2w which the magni just makes it into. The whole speaker amp thing seems suspect. Also seems people are getting poor results with o2 and fiio amps.

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The cheaper audio Gds work well. My 15.32 sounds great with the HE500 and doubles as a DAC. I hear good things about the 11.32 also. Same amp different DACs, wolfson vs sabre. I'm currently using the mini-x and topping TP60 which are speaker amps so plenty of power
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Why would speaker amp seem suspect
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Finally got around to getting a headphone stand. 



Did the grill mod make a big difference? Looks good
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Originally Posted by WTFGoD View Post
 

What would be the cheapest  amp that would work well with the 500? Would something like the magni work?

 

Seems people are saying it requires 1-2w which the magni just makes it into. The whole speaker amp thing seems suspect. Also seems people are getting poor results with o2 and fiio amps.

 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shure-FP-22-Stereo-Headphone-Amp-/331178361079?pt=US_DJ_Monitoring_Headphones&hash=item4d1bc4c0f7

(there are more on eBay, this may not be the best looking one but it's a steal)

 

You will not regret buying one of these balanced babies. Used by professional musical engineers, mono+stereo+balanced

 

Same signature as the Musical Fidelity M1 HPA which I used to own, but Shure FP-22 has much more voltage swing I only use a fraction of its capacity because opening volume at 20% will already be enough to go deaf. Balanced in, 4 outputs and is a great match with M1DAC. Sold my Musical Fidelity M1 HPA. Enough said? 

 

Edit: this is my favorite setup for my HE-500 with Toxic Cable Silver Poison + J$ pads


Edited by Jobbing - 4/16/14 at 12:58pm
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Did the grill mod make a big difference? Looks good
Yes it sounds more open and slightly brighter.
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Yes it sounds more open and slightly brighter.

cool. Where did you get the grill?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shure-FP-22-Stereo-Headphone-Amp-/331178361079?pt=US_DJ_Monitoring_Headphones&hash=item4d1bc4c0f7

(there are more on eBay, this may not be the best looking one but it's a steal)

 

You will not regret buying one of these balanced babies. Used by professional musical engineers, mono+stereo+balanced

 

Same signature as the Musical Fidelity M1 HPA which I used to own, but Shure FP-22 has much more voltage swing I only use a fraction of its capacity because opening volume at 20% will already be enough to go deaf. Balanced in, 4 outputs and is a great match with M1DAC. Sold my Musical Fidelity M1 HPA. Enough said? 

 

Edit: this is my favorite setup for my HE-500 with Toxic Cable Silver Poison + J$ pads

 

Why would not everyone use them?

 

:SkepticalCat:


Edited by WTFGoD - 4/16/14 at 2:23pm
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Is there not issues... like noise or destroying your headphones? If there was no reason for headphone amps why does everyone not just use a speaker amp? >.>

The HE500s can handle all that power, heck I've even turned up the volume to maximum (deafening volumes) on the speaker amp with no resistors and used it like a speaker. It handles that power with ease. Also 50w into 8ohms isn't the same as 50w into 32 ohms. Theres no issue so long as you're not using something like a 200w amp. The noise is only an issue at deafening volumes and only for the mini-x, my Topping has hardly any noise floor.

 

Why doesn't everyone use speaker amps? Not knowing? fear? marketing? Sorry I don't know

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The shure you mention is very week judging from specs (30 mW into 8 ohms, 20 into 63 ohms before clipping). Has also got an output impedance at around 10 ohms.

I destroyed my he500 from using a 125 watt emotiva power amp despite the protection circuitry (which did kick in). Can't say why it happened, but I doubt it'd happen on a headphone amp.
Edited by davidsh - 4/16/14 at 2:40pm
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The HE500s can handle all that power, heck I've even turned up the volume to maximum (deafening volumes) on the speaker amp with no resistors and used it like a speaker. It handles that power with ease. Also 50w into 8ohms isn't the same as 50w into 32 ohms. Theres no issue so long as you're not using something like a 200w amp. The noise is only an issue at deafening volumes and only for the mini-x, my Topping has hardly any noise floor.

 

Why doesn't everyone use speaker amps? Not knowing? fear? marketing? Sorry I don't know

 

a) Because there's an entire headphone amp industry that wants to perpetuate itself

b) Background noise levels when used with headphones

c) Volume control issues

d) Risk of blowing up drivers or eardrums if one's not careful.

 

There are some pretty good reasons why generally the average user is better/safer off getting a headphone amp imo.  Of course if you know what you're doing and not afraid to experiment/own demanding cans then using a speaker amp *can* represent serious savings and better sound quality.

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Why would not everyone use them?

:SkepticalCat:


They should
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