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The feedback I've heard from Woo Audio with the HE-500 has been mixed on this thread. Looking beyond Woo Audio there is too much choice at the price bracket! Just to think of couple that could be classified as near end game...

 

Audio-GD Master 9

Burson Soloist

Darkvoice 337/La Figaro 339 with upgraded tubes

Hifiman EF-6

Pathos Aurium

Violectric V200

 

If I was in your position I'd probably look at the Violectric V200. It sounds from going by other users feedback like the best near end game quality amp one could find. As a bonus it plays nice with a wide variety of headphones. Only thing its due for replacement in the near future.


Edited by daerron - 4/13/14 at 11:17pm
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Originally Posted by TooPoor View Post
 

HeadphoneAddict, how is the WA6 w/ the HE-500 in your opinion? I'm still looking for a 'near' end game amp for the HE-500 without breaking $1500... I'd be using my Bushmaster MKII for a DAC.

 

Also, if you've (or anyone) heard the WA6-SE, is it twice as good (considering it's 2x the price)?

 

My maxed WA6 has great detail, ambience, and air with the HE-500, but it seems to lack a little in the bass foundation and impact.  Bass is there, but it just feels a little soft since the power is not very high for use with inefficient low impedance phones.  

 

Gobs of power is there with something like a D5000, D7000, Edition 9 or any Grados, and also plenty with a high impedance HD600 or HD800.  But most orthodynamics don't have the same punch on the WA6 as the other phones.  I'm told the WA6 SE has 3x the power, and so that could be a great match, but I haven't tried it.  I have tried the WA7 with the HE-500 at RMAF, and the combo was excellent, and yet it sounded great with HD800 too.

 

The DACmini has noticeably more power and impact, yet sounds a lot like my WA6 that's using Sylvania VT-231 tubes with adapters and a Sophia Princess 274b.  But DACmini also has a wider soundstage.  On the other hand, my HD800 can sound a little bright and fatiguing with the DACmini sometime, while with the WA6 I can tone things down a bit with warmer or darker tubes.  

 

So, for the HE-500 I'd pick the DACmini over the WA6, unless it was the SE. A better near end game amp for HE-500 would be the EF6 amp, which is under $1500.

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 The LaFigaro is on my short list the more I hear/read. Also, the LD MKVI+ (balanced/powerful). I've had the V200 and it was awesome with my HD800. But I'd want to wait to hear some feedback on the the new V282 (I think?).

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GREAT info, guys. Honestly, so much appreciated. I'll be comparing my modded HE-500 to the new HE-560 soon. The 500 is really killing me in the comfort department, though I love the 'phone. I'm hoping to grab a 560 + sub-summit fi tube amp and call it a day for awhile.

 

 The DV/LaFigaro seems like the $$ I want to spend, but it's not balanced. Whereas, the LD MKVI+ is with just as much power... I just havent heard much of anything about the LD.

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Originally Posted by TooPoor View Post
 

GREAT info, guys. Honestly, so much appreciated. I'll be comparing my modded HE-500 to the new HE-560 soon. The 500 is really killing me in the comfort department, though I love the 'phone. I'm hoping to grab a 560 + sub-summit fi tube amp and call it a day for awhile.

 

 The DV/LaFigaro seems like the $$ I want to spend, but it's not balanced. Whereas, the LD MKVI+ is with just as much power... I just havent heard much of anything about the LD.

Opinions differ on this but I've found the balanced/SE advantage to be very relative, putting things mildly.  If you look at my sig you'll see I own the V200 as well as the DV337, predecessor to the 339.  Can only confirm that both play very nice with the HD-500 and also the HD-800 (the last one's made for tubes imho, they take off the edge a bit.  V200's just a little on the warm side for an ss amp, dv 337 sounds quite ss (for a tube amp and depending on the tubes).  If you get the 337 or better yet, the 339, budget something extra because you'll want to replace the stock tubes and the really good stuff comes at a hefty price (5998, Graphite 6080's....).  The dark voice/la figaro amps are built exceedingly well, point to point wiring, very neat, top quality soldering.  Can't say anything about the LD amps.

 

Only drawback to the V200 (very relative) is that it's not the ultimate in detail retrieval and resolution but as an upside, with its 2750 mW into 50 Ohm it drives even the HE-6 well, not to the limit of what it's capable off but trust me it sounds good and you can get all the volume you'd want.

 

I can unhesitatingly recommend both but as was remarked, an upgrade for the V200 will soon become available, no definite info on specs yet except that it's supposed to deliver a bit more power.  But the privilege comes at the expense of an extra slice of cash.  If I were you I'd wait for the upgrade or for a used V200 to become available at lower prices once people start to trade up, which -this hobby being what it is- some will inevitably do.

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Hi,

We are very excited to let you know that HE-560 is ready for pre-order.

 

Order it now, and get a travel case for free.

 

http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=196

 

Some early impressions:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/711824/hifiman-he-560-impressions-discussion-thread-pre-orders-up

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/712536/review-hifiman-he-560-planar-magnetic-headphones-stock-headphone-impressions-here-no-mods-other-than-cables-review-in-progress


Edited by TeamHiFiMAN - 4/14/14 at 4:42pm
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Added a Furman PL8C power conditioner to my stack today, doubt I'll get any improvement SQ wise other than taking out some occasional issues with a lot of electronics running on the same circuit. Have to say i'm pretty pleased with it thus far, but i'm not expert on power conditioners. HE-500s still sound as good as ever.

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Added a Furman PL8C power conditioner to my stack today, doubt I'll get any improvement SQ wise other than taking out some occasional issues with a lot of electronics running on the same circuit. Have to say i'm pretty pleased with it thus far, but i'm not expert on power conditioners. HE-500s still sound as good as ever.

Let us know if you hear anything.
I am very interested smily_headphones1.gif
Thanks!
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Let us know if you hear anything.
I am very interested smily_headphones1.gif
Thanks!

It has definitely reduced some hiss, I can turn the volume knob on the MJ all the way past 3 o'clock now without starting to hear noise, not that I would ever need to turn it that high(unless I was running speakers off of it :o) and I may be imagining it but the soundstage seems a little more spacious, but these things are probably psychosomatic, mainly I was having issues with the Mjolnir where the noise would go WAY up with all my electronics working, now it is on it's own bank on the pl8c, I can't foresee running into that issue anymore. Also the new pl8c uses series protection instead of MOV of the first gen which was apparently bad for SQ? Again, this is all foreign to me, I can tell differences between amps and dacs and feel my ears are fairly acute, but I can't say I hear anything yet, but that's exactly the point I suppose. Amazon has it for $125 with free shipping right now, I price matched and picked it up at a local guitar center, but I grabbed the last one there so I don't think they stock many. I initially wanted the smaller PT series but others had mentioned in an old power thread on here to spring for the PL series, also they didn't have the PT series so it made my decision for me. Considering I have well over $125 in gear, I think it's a decent investment if it protects them from surges, of which we get a lot here in hurricane season.

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^ aight. Thanks! wink.gif
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Just buy the PLC THingee FX2 and ur done... biggrin.gif

And for surges protection the TSPD plug in

Both i use in my rig, see my pics in my PaG review (shortcut is in my signature) wink.gif

http://youtu.be/HHYxswkJLYc
Edited by hifimanrookie - 4/15/14 at 1:24am
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Will the new 560 headband be backwards compatible with the HE-500 and be sold separately and when? Thanks!
post #13363 of 14582
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Will the new 560 headband be backwards compatible with the HE-500 and be sold separately and when? Thanks!

No it won't be compatible unfortunately.
Hifiman confirmed it some time ago
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No it won't be compatible unfortunately.
Hifiman confirmed it some time ago

Thanks for the reply. Too bad............
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Thanks for the reply. Too bad............

FWIW, the cups are the same diameter, and while the headband won't be sold separately, it wouldn't take a whole lot to swap them out, at least I can't imagine it would, if you're determined enough. 

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