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Originally Posted by wewewho77 View Post


A very big WOW for this
HE 500 sounds very very good with my 130 watt class A speaker amp

What amp are you running ?

post #13022 of 16449
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Originally Posted by kamalz View Post
 

 

  i just wrote what is in my heart and i think it is important for some people  to appreciate music in

  difference perspective

  In my head fi journey , it is not what wow me but  what moves me is important..

  What wow me can deceive me as it can gradually recede as time goes by.;)

 

+7

post #13023 of 16449
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Originally Posted by kamalz View Post
 

 

  i just wrote what is in my heart and i think it is important for some people  to appreciate music in

  difference perspective

  In my head fi journey , it is not what wow me but  what moves me is important..

  What wow me can deceive me as it can gradually recede as time goes by.;)

 

I definitely appreciate the point being made here, but after listening to any of the headphones mentioned, I can acclimate enough to be moved by the underlying music.  So to enhance the experience more, we have wow factor.  I think wow factor and emotional involvement can be intertwined.

 

And the answer to the point of wow factor decreasing with continued use?  Just rotate between headphones every (few days/ week/ weeks/ month) and re-experience the wow.

post #13024 of 16449
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Originally Posted by richbass View Post

What amp are you running ?
A Musical Fidelity A3.2 power amplifier with 10 ohm 10 watts paralel across the speaker taps.
I hear more punch and presence down low, more dynamic than from my Vio V200 on the relative same volume level.
I use Audiolab MDAC between my Marantz CD player and amp that control the volume.
Edited by wewewho77 - 3/15/14 at 9:37am
post #13025 of 16449
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post

 

I definitely appreciate the point being made here, but after listening to any of the headphones mentioned, I can acclimate enough to be moved by the underlying music.  So to enhance the experience more, we have wow factor.  I think wow factor and emotional involvement can be intertwined.

 

And the answer to the point of wow factor decreasing with continued use?  Just rotate between headphones every (few days/ week/ weeks/ month) and re-experience the wow.

 

+1

 

I go from HE-500s (finely, and finally, tweaked to perfection) to Q701s and occasionally SR-225s and K550s.  They're all different, with the first two being the best.  Going back to the HE-500s always wows me, and I'm instantly pulled into whatever's playing (different music producing different emotions, of course).  Going to Q701s, I'm always impressed with their technical abilities, esp. given their price.  I've done two acoustic mods that have tweaked them to my preferences, without sacrificing too much of what they're known for, but ameliorating certain sonic deficiencies.  They don't wow me like the HE-500s, but as BobJS notes, oen can acclimate to them, and then you stop listening to the cans and start listening to the music.

 

There is a time when listening to the cans is important: when modding.  And when doing various comparisons in general.  I liken this state of mind to those fun visual trick illustrations, like the outline of a cube (simple one), or the "face" shot that can be seen as a profile or a frontal pic.  With practice, one can tune their brain to switch back and forth between the two.  So, even when testing a mod, one can listen to the cans, then the music, then the cans... etc.

post #13026 of 16449

Re: HD650 vs. HE-500 >> Here is a little review I did for a Head-fi member who had asked me to do comp write-up. The question was which one was the better overall headphone. My reply follows:

 

That's a tough question. For a dynamic phone, the HD650 scales up incredibly well. After several experiments I am driving mine using a vintage Onkyo receiver (fantastic synergy).

 

With decent amping the HE-500 is hard to beat. In my experiments there are very few TRS outs that are capable of doing the HE-500 justice. Regardless of the debates on the forum my recommendation for anyone owning an HE-500 is to drive it using the speaker outs of a decent amp. The amp doesn't have to output tons of power, 5 to 8 watts @ 38 ohms is more than adequate. In terms of speaker amps that translates to roughly 24 to 38 watts @ 8 ohms. Vintage amps tend to be in this range hence their popularity (among other things like the way they do analog sound).

 

Okay, so which is the better headphone overall -- the Hifiman HE-500. It just does music right. Sometimes with the HD650 you get the sense that its interpretation is not quite right, even when it's sounding fantastic. But for easing back and simply relaxing without analyzing the music the HD650 wins. This is also because of the comfort level of the HD650 where it is way ahead of the HE-500. If the HE-500 had the comfort of the HD650 it would be my all-the-time favorite headphone.

 

So here is how I would scale the phones (out of 10).

 

Sound / Overall tone / Presentation:

HE-500 - 10 points (simply outstanding)

HD650 - 8.5 sometimes reaching 9

 

Comfort (forget it's on your head factor):

HE-500 - 7.5 maybe 8

HD650 - 9 to 9.5 (excellent design)

 

Chilling / Easing back / Go to sleep time:

HE-500 - 7

HD650 - 9.5 to 10

 

Value retention over time:

HE-500 - 8.5 to 9.5

HD650 - 6.5 to 8

 

I highlighted those qualities because they are what's important for me. As you can tell these headphones complement each other nicely.

 

So the kicker - if I had to keep only one, which would I keep? For serious minded traversing of musical soundscapes - only one answer - I would keep the HE-500.

post #13027 of 16449
I think a more valid comparision is between two rigs: He500+Emotiva vs HD650+Crack With Speedball. Both cost around $700. If anyone here have both setups or have heard before, give me some thoughts. Both are probably one of the very best setups under $800 that do not cost an arm and a leg, performce exceed many more expensive setups.
post #13028 of 16449
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Originally Posted by benjaminhuypham View Post

I think a more valid comparision is between two rigs: He500+Emotiva vs HD650+Crack With Speedball. Both cost around $700. If anyone here have both setups or have heard before, give me some thoughts. Both are probably one of the very best setups under $800 that do not cost an arm and a leg, performce exceed many more expensive setups.
I own both setups and have commented a few times in this thread already on some of the differences. Ultimately it comes down to what kind of music youre listening to. One setup excels at some and the other at some others. Thats why I have both (and another setup for other types of music that I feel neither of these two do as well).
post #13029 of 16449
Just a quickie...

For the ones interested..i hope to have the initial listening impressions about my amp up and running tomorrow evening...as it has now about 100hrs playing time...by long not the advised full burn-in time of 1 month non-stop play time... But its a start right? biggrin.gif

And an update on my rig..i just placed an order for another upgrade again..check my sigature and u will, once again, read an 'awaiting'. biggrin.gif

Damn my wallet is really cursing at me now!!! biggrin.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/15/14 at 8:19pm
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Just a quickie...

For the ones interested..i hope to have the initial listening impressions about my amp up and running tomorrow evening...as it has now about 100hrs playing time...by long not the advised full burn-in time of 1 month non-stop play time... But its a start right? biggrin.gif

And an update on my rig..i just placed an order for another upgrade again..check my sigature and u will, once again, read an 'awaiting'. biggrin.gif

Damn my wallet is really cursing at me now!!! biggrin.gif

 

You so crazy!  Where's your thread for your new amp (or amp + exclusive cans)?  Enquiring Minds Need To Know!  ;)

 

Hope you're enjoying the combo.  Seriously, I'd be shocked if you didn't spend an outrageous amount on a cable.

post #13031 of 16449
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

Just a quickie...

For the ones interested..i hope to have the initial listening impressions about my amp up and running tomorrow evening...as it has now about 100hrs playing time...by long not the advised full burn-in time of 1 month non-stop play time... But its a start right? biggrin.gif

And an update on my rig..i just placed an order for another upgrade again..check my sigature and u will, once again, read an 'awaiting'. biggrin.gif

Damn my wallet is really cursing at me now!!! biggrin.gif

It's only money.  As long as you are happy,  it's totally worth it.  Spend some more bud.  You need to go for the ultimate...

post #13032 of 16449
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

You so crazy!  Where's your thread for your new amp (or amp + exclusive cans)?  Enquiring Minds Need To Know!  wink.gif

Hope you're enjoying the combo.  Seriously, I'd be shocked if you didn't spend an outrageous amount on a cable.
Nope not outrageous..just a eenie weenie bit more then 100usd biggrin.gif
About my thread: dude.. Read my post...and u will see the light, i mean ur answer wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/15/14 at 9:06pm
post #13033 of 16449
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Originally Posted by koiloco View Post

It's only money.  As long as you are happy,  it's totally worth it.  Spend some more bud.  You need to go for the ultimate...
Yep am happy... wink.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/15/14 at 9:24pm
post #13034 of 16449

HE-500 $395 in the sale forums... :eek:  

post #13035 of 16449
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Originally Posted by wewewho77 View Post


A Musical Fidelity A3.2 power amplifier with 10 ohm 10 watts paralel across the speaker taps.
I hear more punch and presence down low, more dynamic than from my Vio V200 on the relative same volume level.
I use Audiolab MDAC between my Marantz CD player and amp that control the volume.

:eek:..  I heard that people drive HE6 with speaker amps but not HE500

Kudos to you

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