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post #12781 of 17771
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Stop. Right now! :D

 

Was to a meet today.. Lots of good stuff, especially Stax. Enjoyed an hour with sr-009 and totl stax amps to match. Danm, I wantzz... Wasn't even disappointed despite the steep price, they'd be worth it all if I could afford.. But for now, I am on the lookout for a Stax lambda normal bias. Not that it really concerns you.

Looks like your wallet is onto its final death spiral.

post #12782 of 17771
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Stop. Right now! :D

 

Was to a meet today.. Lots of good stuff, especially Stax. Enjoyed an hour with sr-009 and totl stax amps to match. Danm, I wantzz... Wasn't even disappointed despite the steep price, they'd be worth it all if I could afford.. But for now, I am on the lookout for a Stax lambda normal bias. Not that it really concerns you.

I know the feeling with the 9.  Very specific sound and perfect for the right type of music but if you get them and either the stock amp or an amp like the blue hawaii special, you're looking at >10kUSD.  That's a lot of cash to pour into 1 set of cans and their amp.  Before going there I feel it's your moral duty to try out the HE-6 but connected to a good speaker amplifier that's known to drive them well.  It's not the same as the 9 but trust me, they can get close for a lot less money.

post #12783 of 17771
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

I know the feeling with the 9.  Very specific sound and perfect for the right type of music but if you get them and either the stock amp or an amp like the blue hawaii special, you're looking at >10kUSD.  That's a lot of cash to pour into 1 set of cans and their amp.  Before going there I feel it's your moral duty to try out the HE-6 but connected to a good speaker amplifier that's known to drive them well.  It's not the same as the 9 but trust me, they can get close for a lot less money.

Does that mean he can take his wallet off life support?

post #12784 of 17771
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Does that mean he can take his wallet off life support?

Speaking in medical terms it means the breathing tube and ventilator can be disconnected and inotropic meds/sedation stopped but he'll still remain in intensive care. :tongue_smile:

 

But I understand where he's coming from, if you hear the 9 and you're sold on its sound it's hard to consider alternatives, almost all will be 'less'.  Still think he should give a properly amped HE-6 a spin though (imperative to audition, it's not something you wish to purchase blind as cans + amp will still set you back about 3k at least for a really good combo).

post #12785 of 17771
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Speaking in medical terms it means the breathing tube and ventilator can be disconnected and inotropic meds/sedation stopped but he'll still remain in intensive care. :tongue_smile:

 

But I understand where he's coming from, if you hear the 9 and you're sold on its sound it's hard to consider alternatives, almost all will be 'less'.  Still think he should give a properly amped HE-6 a spin though (imperative to audition, it's not something you wish to purchase blind as cans + amp will still set you back about 3k at least for a really good combo).

You're really enjoying torturing him and spending his money.:D

post #12786 of 17771
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

You're really enjoying torturing him and spending his money.:D

LOL...no but I enjoy looking for the best and in terms of clarity and price/value that's (leaving out the high end Stax) the HE-6 imo.  But you need to know what you get into with that due to its power requirements.  Very easy to ends up with a less than optimal setup and lots of pitfalls, take it from me.

 

Overall, the HE-500 is tremendous value, best midrange I've heard (arguably better than the 6 with small classic ensembles and vocals) and a hell of a lot easier to amp to perfection.  But it doesn't bring that ultimate clarity and separation that the HE-6 brings to the table, that's just a fact.  Lots more forgiving (the 500) for imperfect source material, and at present prices it's almost a giveaway.  If you can, wait to see what the new models will bring to the table, many people will want to 'upgrade' their 500 and that'll keep prices low in the short term.

post #12787 of 17771
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

LOL...no but I enjoy looking for the best and in terms of clarity and price/value that's (leaving out the high end Stax) the HE-6 imo.  But you need to know what you get into with that due to its power requirements.  Very easy to ends up with a less than optimal setup and lots of pitfalls, take it from me.

 

Overall, the HE-500 is tremendous value, best midrange I've heard (arguably better than the 6 with small classic ensembles and vocals) and a hell of a lot easier to amp to perfection.  But it doesn't bring that ultimate clarity and separation that the HE-6 brings to the table, that's just a fact.  Lots more forgiving (the 500) for imperfect source material, and at present prices it's almost a giveaway.  If you can, wait to see what the new models will bring to the table, many people will want to 'upgrade' their 500 and that'll keep prices low in the short term.

The new models sounding better is not a given. They might be an attempt to increase production and profit margin to sell more of them. Yes that HE-6 is in that class of headphones that resemble black holes as far as power requirements go. To get better results than the HE-500, you have to spend substancially more on the package.

I can easily say of the headphones that I own that I really enjoy listening to music are the HE-500's and HD600's.

post #12788 of 17771

Just finished my cable.  After about 40 minutes or so, I'm lovin' it.  I'll compare it with my plusSounds later, but did a quick one using Steely Dan's "The Caves of Altamira"; couldn't tell any difference.  Mine is not as nice as the plusSounds.  I didn't use the crimp sheath or whatever it's called, so the heatshrink at the SMC ends is a little ragged by comparison.  Wasn't sure what I was supposed to do with it, and had read it's optional if just using wires.  And mine still has the sheath around the wires below the Y split, so it's not as supple.  Still, it's light, sounds great, and is in no way microphonic.  No mishaps, no desoldering, only mild cursing ;)

 

Parts Used

  • Mogami W2799
  • HFM SMC connectors
  • Neutrik NP3X Stero Phone Plug
  • Paracord Planet Nylon 550lb Type III 7 Strand Paracord
  • One blue Papermate Eagle ballpoint pen, sacrificed for part of the tube. R.I.P.
  • Some heatshrink from a variety box

 

Here are some pix:

 

 

 

post #12789 of 17771

Nice work, you get an A+. You didn't burn yourself while soldering? I did on my first project. I was 12 and my Mom opened the refridgerator door and it bumped my elbow at a bad time. I still have a scar where I burned myself near my knuckle.

Now go and listen to your cans, you deserve it.

post #12790 of 17771
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

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Just finished my cable.  After about 40 minutes or so, I'm lovin' it.  I'll compare it with my plusSounds later, but did a quick one using Steely Dan's "The Caves of Altamira"; couldn't tell any difference.  Mine is not as nice as the plusSounds.  I didn't use the crimp sheath or whatever it's called, so the heatshrink at the SMC ends is a little ragged by comparison.  Wasn't sure what I was supposed to do with it, and had read it's optional if just using wires.  And mine still has the sheath around the wires below the Y split, so it's not as supple.  Still, it's light, sounds great, and is in no way microphonic.  No mishaps, no desoldering, only mild cursing ;)

 

Parts Used

  • Mogami W2799
  • HFM SMC connectors
  • Neutrik NP3X Stero Phone Plug
  • Paracord Planet Nylon 550lb Type III 7 Strand Paracord
  • One blue Papermate Eagle ballpoint pen, sacrificed for part of the tube. R.I.P.
  • Some heatshrink from a variety box

 

Here are some pix:

 

 

 

 

Looks great, nice work!

post #12791 of 17771
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Nice work, you get an A+. You didn't burn yourself while soldering? I did on my first project. I was 12 and my Mom opened the refridgerator door and it bumped my elbow at a bad time. I still have a scar where I burned myself near my knuckle.

Now go and listen to your cans, you deserve it.

 

Thanks, boss :darthsmile:

 

Nah, but I'm sure I did during my first soldering job fixing a bum DC jack on an old HP laptop.  So, while very much a novice, not a total noob ;)

 

I'm jumping around my tube burn-in mega mix.

 

So, you gonna make one??? :D

post #12792 of 17771
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

Looks great, nice work!

 

Thanks!  It's satisfying to make something that actually works and looks good.

post #12793 of 17771
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Thanks, boss :darthsmile:

 

Nah, but I'm sure I did during my first soldering job fixing a bum DC jack on an old HP laptop.  So, while very much a novice, not a total noob ;)

 

I'm jumping around my tube burn-in mega mix.

 

So, you gonna make one??? :D

Yep, flexible and no microphonics, how can I not. What did you use for sleeving? You listed it.


Edited by StanD - 3/2/14 at 6:56pm
post #12794 of 17771
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Yep, flexible and no microphonics, how can I not. What did you use for sleeving? You listed it.

 

I just used Amazon for the paracord.  There was no difference in price (free shipping), and it was easy to check out the various patterns.  There are hundreds of them, but I found it easy to dismiss most of them.  It was down to a handful, and mine is wife-approved ;)  .... which will make you get neon pink and green, just to piss yours off :D

post #12795 of 17771
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

LOL...no but I enjoy looking for the best and in terms of clarity and price/value that's (leaving out the high end Stax) the HE-6 imo.  But you need to know what you get into with that due to its power requirements.  Very easy to ends up with a less than optimal setup and lots of pitfalls, take it from me.

 

Overall, the HE-500 is tremendous value, best midrange I've heard (arguably better than the 6 with small classic ensembles and vocals) and a hell of a lot easier to amp to perfection.  But it doesn't bring that ultimate clarity and separation that the HE-6 brings to the table, that's just a fact.  Lots more forgiving (the 500) for imperfect source material, and at present prices it's almost a giveaway.  If you can, wait to see what the new models will bring to the table, many people will want to 'upgrade' their 500 and that'll keep prices low in the short term.


what u just laid out about the he6 and whats its 'missing'.....well i think i found the phone who has the better qualities of a he6 and non of its shortcomings (if u can call them that)..

 

.maybe u could buy a good second hand RARE woody he5 (if u can find one!!!! and not a he5LE) and sent it to LFF and let him transform it into a code-x..i have a feeling u maybe will have a hard time choosing between ur he6 or the code-x... its not cheap..hell..i expect u will have to spend at least same amount as what a new he6 costs or even maybe more in total..but i can tell ya..its worth every penny!


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/2/14 at 7:29pm
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