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Originally Posted by HPiper View Post
 

Is the HE-500 a particularly hard phone to amp, or are you just talking about optimal amping. I was considering getting some of these while they are still available and on sale but I can't afford a new amp AND new phones.

It's not particularly hard in the sense that it's not finicky in pairing like the HD-800, but it does require a reasonably powerful amplifier (not only the raw output counts, it's also a question of being able to swing sufficient voltage in a short time) due to its no so high sensitivity despite its 38 Ohm impedance. In my opinion, if you spend more than 300 USD on a headphone it would be silly not to drive them to what they're capable of.  What amp are you using now?

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Enough juice to drive the HE-500's dynamically with classical?  Some of the reviews seem to suggest otherwise, like the one on InnerFidelity.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Austin Morrow View Post
 

Well, I think I may have found the end-game amplifier for both my LCD-2 and the HE-500 in the Fosgate Signature. It's the defenition of perfection, and it's going to be hard writing a review without sounding heavily biased.

 

Even against amplifiers like the Cavalli Audio Liquid Glass and other end-game amplifiers I've heard with the HE-500, it has the most seductive midrange ever, and it does bass like no other. 

 

With the bass switch turned on, it reminds me of a D7000, but tighter, better PRaT, more extension down low, and superb decay times. Simply unparalled.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

Amen. It is an amazing sounding amp. The very best I have heard/owned as of yet.

 

It brings out the best in my HE-500/LCD-2 and just is wonderful with the HD800, not many amps are good with all three.  The Fosgate is a masterpiece.

post #12783 of 14164

I bought it to pair with the HD800 (amazing together) and was pleasantly surprised at how well it does with the HE-500. It is a phenomenal amp with some fun features. 

post #12784 of 14164
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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

I bought it to pair with the HD800 (amazing together) and was pleasantly surprised at how well it does with the HE-500. It is a phenomenal amp with some fun features. 

Stop. Right now! :D

 

Was to a meet today.. Lots of good stuff, especially Stax. Enjoyed an hour with sr-009 and totl stax amps to match. Danm, I wantzz... Wasn't even disappointed despite the steep price, they'd be worth it all if I could afford.. But for now, I am on the lookout for a Stax lambda normal bias. Not that it really concerns you.

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I have a question for y'all. If you look at the following picture, you will see at the bottom left on top of the inside magnet strip a fine white dust/powder. It's been there as long as I remember, but could this be a possible sign of overdriving the driver? Maybe some particles coming off of it? Or is it just something to not be concerned about? jerg, any ideas?

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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Stop. Right now! :D

 

Was to a meet today.. Lots of good stuff, especially Stax. Enjoyed an hour with sr-009 and totl stax amps to match. Danm, I wantzz... Wasn't even disappointed despite the steep price, they'd be worth it all if I could afford.. But for now, I am on the lookout for a Stax lambda normal bias. Not that it really concerns you.

Looks like your wallet is onto its final death spiral.

post #12787 of 14164
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Stop. Right now! :D

 

Was to a meet today.. Lots of good stuff, especially Stax. Enjoyed an hour with sr-009 and totl stax amps to match. Danm, I wantzz... Wasn't even disappointed despite the steep price, they'd be worth it all if I could afford.. But for now, I am on the lookout for a Stax lambda normal bias. Not that it really concerns you.

I know the feeling with the 9.  Very specific sound and perfect for the right type of music but if you get them and either the stock amp or an amp like the blue hawaii special, you're looking at >10kUSD.  That's a lot of cash to pour into 1 set of cans and their amp.  Before going there I feel it's your moral duty to try out the HE-6 but connected to a good speaker amplifier that's known to drive them well.  It's not the same as the 9 but trust me, they can get close for a lot less money.

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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

I know the feeling with the 9.  Very specific sound and perfect for the right type of music but if you get them and either the stock amp or an amp like the blue hawaii special, you're looking at >10kUSD.  That's a lot of cash to pour into 1 set of cans and their amp.  Before going there I feel it's your moral duty to try out the HE-6 but connected to a good speaker amplifier that's known to drive them well.  It's not the same as the 9 but trust me, they can get close for a lot less money.

Does that mean he can take his wallet off life support?

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Does that mean he can take his wallet off life support?

Speaking in medical terms it means the breathing tube and ventilator can be disconnected and inotropic meds/sedation stopped but he'll still remain in intensive care. :tongue_smile:

 

But I understand where he's coming from, if you hear the 9 and you're sold on its sound it's hard to consider alternatives, almost all will be 'less'.  Still think he should give a properly amped HE-6 a spin though (imperative to audition, it's not something you wish to purchase blind as cans + amp will still set you back about 3k at least for a really good combo).

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Speaking in medical terms it means the breathing tube and ventilator can be disconnected and inotropic meds/sedation stopped but he'll still remain in intensive care. :tongue_smile:

 

But I understand where he's coming from, if you hear the 9 and you're sold on its sound it's hard to consider alternatives, almost all will be 'less'.  Still think he should give a properly amped HE-6 a spin though (imperative to audition, it's not something you wish to purchase blind as cans + amp will still set you back about 3k at least for a really good combo).

You're really enjoying torturing him and spending his money.:D

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You're really enjoying torturing him and spending his money.:D

LOL...no but I enjoy looking for the best and in terms of clarity and price/value that's (leaving out the high end Stax) the HE-6 imo.  But you need to know what you get into with that due to its power requirements.  Very easy to ends up with a less than optimal setup and lots of pitfalls, take it from me.

 

Overall, the HE-500 is tremendous value, best midrange I've heard (arguably better than the 6 with small classic ensembles and vocals) and a hell of a lot easier to amp to perfection.  But it doesn't bring that ultimate clarity and separation that the HE-6 brings to the table, that's just a fact.  Lots more forgiving (the 500) for imperfect source material, and at present prices it's almost a giveaway.  If you can, wait to see what the new models will bring to the table, many people will want to 'upgrade' their 500 and that'll keep prices low in the short term.

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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

LOL...no but I enjoy looking for the best and in terms of clarity and price/value that's (leaving out the high end Stax) the HE-6 imo.  But you need to know what you get into with that due to its power requirements.  Very easy to ends up with a less than optimal setup and lots of pitfalls, take it from me.

 

Overall, the HE-500 is tremendous value, best midrange I've heard (arguably better than the 6 with small classic ensembles and vocals) and a hell of a lot easier to amp to perfection.  But it doesn't bring that ultimate clarity and separation that the HE-6 brings to the table, that's just a fact.  Lots more forgiving (the 500) for imperfect source material, and at present prices it's almost a giveaway.  If you can, wait to see what the new models will bring to the table, many people will want to 'upgrade' their 500 and that'll keep prices low in the short term.

The new models sounding better is not a given. They might be an attempt to increase production and profit margin to sell more of them. Yes that HE-6 is in that class of headphones that resemble black holes as far as power requirements go. To get better results than the HE-500, you have to spend substancially more on the package.

I can easily say of the headphones that I own that I really enjoy listening to music are the HE-500's and HD600's.

post #12793 of 14164

Just finished my cable.  After about 40 minutes or so, I'm lovin' it.  I'll compare it with my plusSounds later, but did a quick one using Steely Dan's "The Caves of Altamira"; couldn't tell any difference.  Mine is not as nice as the plusSounds.  I didn't use the crimp sheath or whatever it's called, so the heatshrink at the SMC ends is a little ragged by comparison.  Wasn't sure what I was supposed to do with it, and had read it's optional if just using wires.  And mine still has the sheath around the wires below the Y split, so it's not as supple.  Still, it's light, sounds great, and is in no way microphonic.  No mishaps, no desoldering, only mild cursing ;)

 

Parts Used

  • Mogami W2799
  • HFM SMC connectors
  • Neutrik NP3X Stero Phone Plug
  • Paracord Planet Nylon 550lb Type III 7 Strand Paracord
  • One blue Papermate Eagle ballpoint pen, sacrificed for part of the tube. R.I.P.
  • Some heatshrink from a variety box

 

Here are some pix:

 

 

 

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Nice work, you get an A+. You didn't burn yourself while soldering? I did on my first project. I was 12 and my Mom opened the refridgerator door and it bumped my elbow at a bad time. I still have a scar where I burned myself near my knuckle.

Now go and listen to your cans, you deserve it.

post #12795 of 14164
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Just finished my cable.  After about 40 minutes or so, I'm lovin' it.  I'll compare it with my plusSounds later, but did a quick one using Steely Dan's "The Caves of Altamira"; couldn't tell any difference.  Mine is not as nice as the plusSounds.  I didn't use the crimp sheath or whatever it's called, so the heatshrink at the SMC ends is a little ragged by comparison.  Wasn't sure what I was supposed to do with it, and had read it's optional if just using wires.  And mine still has the sheath around the wires below the Y split, so it's not as supple.  Still, it's light, sounds great, and is in no way microphonic.  No mishaps, no desoldering, only mild cursing ;)

 

Parts Used

  • Mogami W2799
  • HFM SMC connectors
  • Neutrik NP3X Stero Phone Plug
  • Paracord Planet Nylon 550lb Type III 7 Strand Paracord
  • One blue Papermate Eagle ballpoint pen, sacrificed for part of the tube. R.I.P.
  • Some heatshrink from a variety box

 

Here are some pix:

 

 

 

 

Looks great, nice work!

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