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post #12721 of 15277
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

It's kind of ironic. I've got 300$ pure silver (with gold) cable on my HE-500.. Lulz..

Hehe.  Head-fi problems, eh?

post #12722 of 15277
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

It's kind of ironic. I've got 300$ pure silver (with gold) cable on my HE-500.. Lulz..

You can always make believe they sound better. ;) 

post #12723 of 15277

lolz..u guys are funny..i by accident stumbled on some kind of green fanatics of sort..almost all owning a 1.1l car with 40hp or such (who needs 1litres of gas on trillion miles)..and guess what they said when a newbie posted: those cars are almost not drivable on the highway because of the lack of power and that it was hard to keep the 120km/h limit..with wind against they even couldnt manage 90 with three people inside..and u know what they said: why u need a car that can drive more then that? u eventually get there also..so no need to get a better car... my point... its all about priorities and money u wanna spend... and those two factors influence greatly how u THINK a cable will sound like...if u believe deeply that a cable wont do shiit to ur system..then u probbaly have a mediocre system at best... so ur (audio) values are a lot lower then  lets say someone buying that new NAD dac with an mjolnir amp to go with it...and thats not higher end also..its midfi... but still..u will see those people (most) will acknowledge that cables do work..its really curious that ALLLLLLL and i mean ALL owners of the budget models of Shiit and the emotiva (just examples) say a cable wont do shiit to ur sound experience (or that its almost to hard to hear it)..and i mean all! but when u check threads of the REAL premium cable brands u will see that most cables are bought by people who have expensive IEMS or a better rig then regular is owned here on this thread... is this some kind of plecebo effect (and in this situation: thinking no cable will make a difference to sound)..

 

its not only seen here on this thread... i am active on several forums..a few real higher end and a few european thats high and lower end...and on the lower/mid-fi threads its same thing... even the modders of those amps/phones (yep the ones who know the technical stuff) say the same things...

 

am not attacking here...but it just struck me..does the way how u think towards ur audio influence ur ideas whether extra stuff will attribute to ur soundexperience or not..food for thought huh? anyone has an answer for this?..

 

and dont start that people with money feel better when they buy expensive stuff..as that is stupid.... as i am sure u guys who bought ur emotiva or shiit or any other amp mentioned here would be just as anxious for their amp before delivery as i am now!  am just curious whether ur main rig determines what other things u buy for it...it cant be just lack of money..

 

on purpose i didnt mention prices..as thats not important..is it the level of soundquality in ur equipment? or our crazy mind? or are we all just lambs all brainwashed by a few others? lolz


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/1/14 at 5:10pm
post #12724 of 15277

I stand by my theory that cables won't affect sound on orthos. Not significant enough for the FLAT response of orthos. As for dynamics, I'd somewhat believe it, but still don't think it warrants the price most people pay. Maybe copper vs silver is OK (as they'd be similar cost) but not paying the premium for GOLD INFUSED or LITZ etc

post #12725 of 15277
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

I stand by my theory that cables won't affect sound on orthos. Not significant enough for the FLAT response of orthos. As for dynamics, I'd somewhat believe it, but still don't think it warrants the price most people pay. Maybe copper vs silver is OK (as they'd be similar cost) but not paying the premium for GOLD INFUSED or LITZ etc


i also just believe in full copper of silver cables..thats why i stick with full copper...since the beginning actuallly..only the original hifiman cable was silverplated copper... but that was not by choice i had that cable...but since then..copper all the way.

 

and theory or not..i by own experience multiple times found out the better ur amp/headphone (also planar) the better the cable improvements will be heared... as i once said..on my m-stage i heard nada, zip, rien, nothing of change in sound experience..i only started to hear differences when i went up to my modified 337 with the tubes i had in it...tubes who had very high detaily character... especially the details became clearer and the bass cleaner and less muddy (if u can call a 337 muddy..lolz).. only with my latest balanced 8wire cable with seperated cables for each channel the soundstage improved... we will see how it will improve the sound of my new amp compared to a higher end (solid retangular copper wires instead of stranded wires) cable i maybe will get..maybe.....first thing first..

 

ps..ur a emotiva owner right? as what u say is so emotiva like. ;) 

another ps... i once started out with the he300...the only dynamic of hifiman and i can tell u the difference the upgraded cable made on the he300 was even better heard on the he500... and i am talking in my own experience..not quoting what others say.


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/1/14 at 5:25pm
post #12726 of 15277
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

You can always make believe they sound better. ;) 

Lol

post #12727 of 15277

by the way..my package was processed through sort facility ICS chicago IL at 12:44pm today...what is ICS?

 

thansk for explaining!

post #12728 of 15277
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post
 

by the way..my package was processed through sort facility ICS chicago IL at 12:44pm today...what is ICS?

 

thansk for explaining!

 

Was it ICS or ISC?  Either way, pretty sure it's US Customs (maybe International Sorting Center).  When they clear it, they'll give it back to the USPS for shipping.

 

NB: "cleared through" doesn't necessarily mean it's been loaded on a plane.  The USPS language is a bit... vague and confusing, to put it nicely.

 

Just keep checking the status.  You'll see it change, hopefully sooner than later :) 


Edited by ThurstonX - 3/1/14 at 6:11pm
post #12729 of 15277
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Customs clearing center. (International Sorting Center)

 

NB: "cleared through" doesn't necessarily mean it's been loaded on a plane.  The USPS language is a bit... vague and confusing, to put it nicely.

 

Just keep checking the status.  You'll see it change, hopefully sooner than later :) 


thanks for explanation...yep it is vague..it took a whole day to get from the acceptance stage to this stage..

and ofcourse i will be checking the status frequently..its first thing i do when i wake up and at least 6 times a day..hope that doesnt sound to weird :D


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/1/14 at 6:12pm
post #12730 of 15277
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


thanks for explanation...yep it is vague..it took a whole day to get from the acceptance stage to this stage..

and ofcourse i will be checking the status frequently..its first thing i do when i wake up and at least 6 times a day..hope that doesnt sound to weird :D

 

Nah, I do the same thing.  I'd expect you to double the frequency, given what's coming!

post #12731 of 15277

Hmmm, I don't want to open up the cable can of worms here but in my personal experience they don't seem to be making a difference, at least not with the gear I've been testing them with.  Goes for the interconnects as well as the headphone cable (provided basic construction of the cable is ok, blah, blah blah, you know the routine).

 

Tried the stock cables, some toxic cable that I got when I purchased my HE-6 and tried out some really expensive stuff (the gold infused litz cables amongst others) from a friend.  To give you an idea, his RCA interconnects alone ran to about 2700 EUR for a 3-foot pair.  This was with the HE-6 and the HD-800.  For the HD-800 a friend of mine who's an engineer with Senn loaned me a couple of cables they had used in their lab.  Not available on the general market but given their composition and construction the stuff would run into 5 figures, no doubt.

 

Honestly, if there was a difference at all, I couldn't reliably identify it.  Hearing is good, money not an issue, if I'd reliably hear a difference I'd purchase them.  Tested it with my gear (among which is the 337 previously owned by hifimanrookie) as well as on an extremely high end setup at a friend's.  Couldn't reliably detect a difference between cables if you'd put a gun to my head.  Sometimes I thought there was something but as I said, no way I could identify them in a blind A/B test.

 

That's just me, I have absolutely no problems with people who think differently. Music is about more than objectivity, it's about individual experience and if a cable change can do that to you then who'd I be to argue differently.  But I do believe it's one of the final elements in the audio chain, I recently participated in a thread where one of the posters was attempting to persuade another into a high dollar cable while the poor guy was driving his (high impedance and not particularly sensitive) cans from an O2 and obviously had to watch his expenditure....that's just beyond me.

post #12732 of 15277
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
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Hmmm, I don't want to open up the cable can of worms here but in my personal experience they don't seem to be making a difference, at least not with the gear I've been testing them with.  Goes for the interconnects as well as the headphone cable (provided basic construction of the cable is ok, blah, blah blah, you know the routine).

 

Tried the stock cables, some toxic cable that I got when I purchased my HE-6 and tried out some really expensive stuff (the gold infused litz cables amongst others) from a friend.  To give you an idea, his RCA interconnects alone ran to about 2700 EUR for a 3-foot pair.  This was with the HE-6 and the HD-800.  For the HD-800 a friend of mine who's an engineer with Senn loaned me a couple of cables they had used in their lab.  Not available on the general market but given their composition and construction the stuff would run into 5 figures, no doubt.

 

Honestly, if there was a difference at all, I couldn't reliably identify it.  Hearing is good, money not an issue, if I'd reliably hear a difference I'd purchase them.  Tested it with my gear (among which is the 337 previously owned by hifimanrookie) as well as on an extremely high end setup at a friend's.  Couldn't reliably detect a difference between cables if you'd put a gun to my head.  Sometimes I thought there was something but as I said, no way I could identify them in a blind A/B test.

 

That's just me, I have absolutely no problems with people who think differently. Music is about more than objectivity, it's about individual experience and if a cable change can do that to you then who'd I be to argue differently.  But I do believe it's one of the final elements in the audio chain, I recently participated in a thread where one of the posters was attempting to persuade another into a high dollar cable while the poor guy was driving his (high impedance and not particularly sensitive) cans from an O2 and obviously had to watch his expenditure....that's just beyond me.

That's just absolutely ridiculous. Honestly, I hope everyone ranted at him.

post #12733 of 15277
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Hmmm, I don't want to open up the cable can of worms here but in my personal experience they don't seem to be making a difference, at least not with the gear I've been testing them with.  Goes for the interconnects as well as the headphone cable (provided basic construction of the cable is ok, blah, blah blah, you know the routine).

 

Tried the stock cables, some toxic cable that I got when I purchased my HE-6 and tried out some really expensive stuff (the gold infused litz cables amongst others) from a friend.  To give you an idea, his RCA interconnects alone ran to about 2700 EUR for a 3-foot pair.  This was with the HE-6 and the HD-800.  For the HD-800 a friend of mine who's an engineer with Senn loaned me a couple of cables they had used in their lab.  Not available on the general market but given their composition and construction the stuff would run into 5 figures, no doubt.

 

Honestly, if there was a difference at all, I couldn't reliably identify it.  Hearing is good, money not an issue, if I'd reliably hear a difference I'd purchase them.  Tested it with my gear (among which is the 337 previously owned by hifimanrookie) as well as on an extremely high end setup at a friend's.  Couldn't reliably detect a difference between cables if you'd put a gun to my head.  Sometimes I thought there was something but as I said, no way I could identify them in a blind A/B test.

 

That's just me, I have absolutely no problems with people who think differently. Music is about more than objectivity, it's about individual experience and if a cable change can do that to you then who'd I be to argue differently.  But I do believe it's one of the final elements in the audio chain, I recently participated in a thread where one of the posters was attempting to persuade another into a high dollar cable while the poor guy was driving his (high impedance and not particularly sensitive) cans from an O2 and obviously had to watch his expenditure....that's just beyond me.


still alive there in india? lolz...just kidding!

 

weird that u didnt hear differences with different cables on the 337...did u try out other powercables? or connecting the 337 directly into the wallsocket?

but as u also state..its also a matter of personal experience and how u hear music...ur ears...ur piece of mind...about that last thing..i found out that how u feel actually interferes in how u expereince ur music! when i was feeling not on my best i could have sworn the music sounded worse..and sometimes i thought that the voices were sounding louder on one channel then the other..but knowing normally it was dead in the middle...do we have some kind of mechanism that disconnects parts of of brain or affect our hearing just like the higher end AMG models have as when u drive normally the engine shuts down some cylinders but when u again go bezerk trashing the car the cylinders get into line again.. must be it... or my brain is shutting down slowly and needs a huge overhaul  :D

post #12734 of 15277
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post
 


still alive there in india? lolz...just kidding!

 

weird that u didnt hear differences with different cables on the 337...did u try out other powercables? or connecting the 337 directly into the wallsocket?

but as u also state..its also a matter of personal experience and how u hear music...ur ears...ur piece of mind...about that last thing..i found out that how u feel actually interferes in how u expereince ur music! when i was feeling not on my best i could have sworn the music sounded worse..and sometimes i thought that the voices were sounding louder on one channel then the other..but knowing normally it was dead in the middle...do we have some kind of mechanism that disconnects parts of of brain or affect our hearing just like the higher end AMG models have as when u drive normally the engine shuts down some cylinders but when u again go bezerk trashing the car the cylinders get into line again.. must be it... or my brain is shutting down slowly and needs a huge overhaul  :D


Of course mood and overall PEACE affects music and how good it sounds. Why do you think MJ makes music sound AMAZING?! :)

Euphoria = Good Music

post #12735 of 15277
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Was it ICS or ISC?  Either way, pretty sure it's US Customs (maybe International Sorting Center).  When they clear it, they'll give it back to the USPS for shipping.

 

NB: "cleared through" doesn't necessarily mean it's been loaded on a plane.  The USPS language is a bit... vague and confusing, to put it nicely.

 

Just keep checking the status.  You'll see it change, hopefully sooner than later :) 


its ISC...lolz..

hey look, it says now: the item currently on transit to destination  :D 

 

yeah!!


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/1/14 at 7:14pm
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