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post #12721 of 16692
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

You can always make believe they sound better. ;) 

Lol

post #12722 of 16692

by the way..my package was processed through sort facility ICS chicago IL at 12:44pm today...what is ICS?

 

thansk for explaining!

post #12723 of 16692
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post
 

by the way..my package was processed through sort facility ICS chicago IL at 12:44pm today...what is ICS?

 

thansk for explaining!

 

Was it ICS or ISC?  Either way, pretty sure it's US Customs (maybe International Sorting Center).  When they clear it, they'll give it back to the USPS for shipping.

 

NB: "cleared through" doesn't necessarily mean it's been loaded on a plane.  The USPS language is a bit... vague and confusing, to put it nicely.

 

Just keep checking the status.  You'll see it change, hopefully sooner than later :) 


Edited by ThurstonX - 3/1/14 at 6:11pm
post #12724 of 16692
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Customs clearing center. (International Sorting Center)

 

NB: "cleared through" doesn't necessarily mean it's been loaded on a plane.  The USPS language is a bit... vague and confusing, to put it nicely.

 

Just keep checking the status.  You'll see it change, hopefully sooner than later :) 


thanks for explanation...yep it is vague..it took a whole day to get from the acceptance stage to this stage..

and ofcourse i will be checking the status frequently..its first thing i do when i wake up and at least 6 times a day..hope that doesnt sound to weird :D


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/1/14 at 6:12pm
post #12725 of 16692
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thanks for explanation...yep it is vague..it took a whole day to get from the acceptance stage to this stage..

and ofcourse i will be checking the status frequently..its first thing i do when i wake up and at least 6 times a day..hope that doesnt sound to weird :D

 

Nah, I do the same thing.  I'd expect you to double the frequency, given what's coming!

post #12726 of 16692

Hmmm, I don't want to open up the cable can of worms here but in my personal experience they don't seem to be making a difference, at least not with the gear I've been testing them with.  Goes for the interconnects as well as the headphone cable (provided basic construction of the cable is ok, blah, blah blah, you know the routine).

 

Tried the stock cables, some toxic cable that I got when I purchased my HE-6 and tried out some really expensive stuff (the gold infused litz cables amongst others) from a friend.  To give you an idea, his RCA interconnects alone ran to about 2700 EUR for a 3-foot pair.  This was with the HE-6 and the HD-800.  For the HD-800 a friend of mine who's an engineer with Senn loaned me a couple of cables they had used in their lab.  Not available on the general market but given their composition and construction the stuff would run into 5 figures, no doubt.

 

Honestly, if there was a difference at all, I couldn't reliably identify it.  Hearing is good, money not an issue, if I'd reliably hear a difference I'd purchase them.  Tested it with my gear (among which is the 337 previously owned by hifimanrookie) as well as on an extremely high end setup at a friend's.  Couldn't reliably detect a difference between cables if you'd put a gun to my head.  Sometimes I thought there was something but as I said, no way I could identify them in a blind A/B test.

 

That's just me, I have absolutely no problems with people who think differently. Music is about more than objectivity, it's about individual experience and if a cable change can do that to you then who'd I be to argue differently.  But I do believe it's one of the final elements in the audio chain, I recently participated in a thread where one of the posters was attempting to persuade another into a high dollar cable while the poor guy was driving his (high impedance and not particularly sensitive) cans from an O2 and obviously had to watch his expenditure....that's just beyond me.

post #12727 of 16692
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Hmmm, I don't want to open up the cable can of worms here but in my personal experience they don't seem to be making a difference, at least not with the gear I've been testing them with.  Goes for the interconnects as well as the headphone cable (provided basic construction of the cable is ok, blah, blah blah, you know the routine).

 

Tried the stock cables, some toxic cable that I got when I purchased my HE-6 and tried out some really expensive stuff (the gold infused litz cables amongst others) from a friend.  To give you an idea, his RCA interconnects alone ran to about 2700 EUR for a 3-foot pair.  This was with the HE-6 and the HD-800.  For the HD-800 a friend of mine who's an engineer with Senn loaned me a couple of cables they had used in their lab.  Not available on the general market but given their composition and construction the stuff would run into 5 figures, no doubt.

 

Honestly, if there was a difference at all, I couldn't reliably identify it.  Hearing is good, money not an issue, if I'd reliably hear a difference I'd purchase them.  Tested it with my gear (among which is the 337 previously owned by hifimanrookie) as well as on an extremely high end setup at a friend's.  Couldn't reliably detect a difference between cables if you'd put a gun to my head.  Sometimes I thought there was something but as I said, no way I could identify them in a blind A/B test.

 

That's just me, I have absolutely no problems with people who think differently. Music is about more than objectivity, it's about individual experience and if a cable change can do that to you then who'd I be to argue differently.  But I do believe it's one of the final elements in the audio chain, I recently participated in a thread where one of the posters was attempting to persuade another into a high dollar cable while the poor guy was driving his (high impedance and not particularly sensitive) cans from an O2 and obviously had to watch his expenditure....that's just beyond me.

That's just absolutely ridiculous. Honestly, I hope everyone ranted at him.

post #12728 of 16692
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Hmmm, I don't want to open up the cable can of worms here but in my personal experience they don't seem to be making a difference, at least not with the gear I've been testing them with.  Goes for the interconnects as well as the headphone cable (provided basic construction of the cable is ok, blah, blah blah, you know the routine).

 

Tried the stock cables, some toxic cable that I got when I purchased my HE-6 and tried out some really expensive stuff (the gold infused litz cables amongst others) from a friend.  To give you an idea, his RCA interconnects alone ran to about 2700 EUR for a 3-foot pair.  This was with the HE-6 and the HD-800.  For the HD-800 a friend of mine who's an engineer with Senn loaned me a couple of cables they had used in their lab.  Not available on the general market but given their composition and construction the stuff would run into 5 figures, no doubt.

 

Honestly, if there was a difference at all, I couldn't reliably identify it.  Hearing is good, money not an issue, if I'd reliably hear a difference I'd purchase them.  Tested it with my gear (among which is the 337 previously owned by hifimanrookie) as well as on an extremely high end setup at a friend's.  Couldn't reliably detect a difference between cables if you'd put a gun to my head.  Sometimes I thought there was something but as I said, no way I could identify them in a blind A/B test.

 

That's just me, I have absolutely no problems with people who think differently. Music is about more than objectivity, it's about individual experience and if a cable change can do that to you then who'd I be to argue differently.  But I do believe it's one of the final elements in the audio chain, I recently participated in a thread where one of the posters was attempting to persuade another into a high dollar cable while the poor guy was driving his (high impedance and not particularly sensitive) cans from an O2 and obviously had to watch his expenditure....that's just beyond me.


still alive there in india? lolz...just kidding!

 

weird that u didnt hear differences with different cables on the 337...did u try out other powercables? or connecting the 337 directly into the wallsocket?

but as u also state..its also a matter of personal experience and how u hear music...ur ears...ur piece of mind...about that last thing..i found out that how u feel actually interferes in how u expereince ur music! when i was feeling not on my best i could have sworn the music sounded worse..and sometimes i thought that the voices were sounding louder on one channel then the other..but knowing normally it was dead in the middle...do we have some kind of mechanism that disconnects parts of of brain or affect our hearing just like the higher end AMG models have as when u drive normally the engine shuts down some cylinders but when u again go bezerk trashing the car the cylinders get into line again.. must be it... or my brain is shutting down slowly and needs a huge overhaul  :D

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still alive there in india? lolz...just kidding!

 

weird that u didnt hear differences with different cables on the 337...did u try out other powercables? or connecting the 337 directly into the wallsocket?

but as u also state..its also a matter of personal experience and how u hear music...ur ears...ur piece of mind...about that last thing..i found out that how u feel actually interferes in how u expereince ur music! when i was feeling not on my best i could have sworn the music sounded worse..and sometimes i thought that the voices were sounding louder on one channel then the other..but knowing normally it was dead in the middle...do we have some kind of mechanism that disconnects parts of of brain or affect our hearing just like the higher end AMG models have as when u drive normally the engine shuts down some cylinders but when u again go bezerk trashing the car the cylinders get into line again.. must be it... or my brain is shutting down slowly and needs a huge overhaul  :D


Of course mood and overall PEACE affects music and how good it sounds. Why do you think MJ makes music sound AMAZING?! :)

Euphoria = Good Music

post #12730 of 16692
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Was it ICS or ISC?  Either way, pretty sure it's US Customs (maybe International Sorting Center).  When they clear it, they'll give it back to the USPS for shipping.

 

NB: "cleared through" doesn't necessarily mean it's been loaded on a plane.  The USPS language is a bit... vague and confusing, to put it nicely.

 

Just keep checking the status.  You'll see it change, hopefully sooner than later :) 


its ISC...lolz..

hey look, it says now: the item currently on transit to destination  :D 

 

yeah!!


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/1/14 at 7:14pm
post #12731 of 16692
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post
 


i also just believe in full copper of silver cables..thats why i stick with full copper...since the beginning actuallly..only the original hifiman cable was silverplated copper... but that was not by choice i had that cable...but since then..copper all the way.

 

and theory or not..i by own experience multiple times found out the better ur amp/headphone (also planar) the better the cable improvements will be heared... as i once said..on my m-stage i heard nada, zip, rien, nothing of change in sound experience..i only started to hear differences when i went up to my modified 337 with the tubes i had in it...tubes who had very high detaily character... especially the details became clearer and the bass cleaner and less muddy (if u can call a 337 muddy..lolz).. only with my latest balanced 8wire cable with seperated cables for each channel the soundstage improved... we will see how it will improve the sound of my new amp compared to a higher end (solid retangular copper wires instead of stranded wires) cable i maybe will get..maybe.....first thing first..

 

ps..ur a emotiva owner right? as what u say is so emotiva like. ;) 

another ps... i once started out with the he300...the only dynamic of hifiman and i can tell u the difference the upgraded cable made on the he300 was even better heard on the he500... and i am talking in my own experience..not quoting what others say.

You're funny, :D The engineering is very simple and basic, We're not talking rocket science, The acceleration of gravity on the surface of the earth is pretty much a constant 9.81 m/s2. Are you willing to go to a Physicist and tell them they are wrong? "Sure I can beat that, I can put rocks in my pocket and go faster." The story of cables improving sound is pretty much the same, rocks in your pocket. I think that's a good and perhaps humerous analogy.

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And the battle begins!
post #12733 of 16692
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Was it ICS or ISC?  Either way, pretty sure it's US Customs (maybe International Sorting Center).  When they clear it, they'll give it back to the USPS for shipping.

 

NB: "cleared through" doesn't necessarily mean it's been loaded on a plane.  The USPS language is a bit... vague and confusing, to put it nicely.

 

Just keep checking the status.  You'll see it change, hopefully sooner than later :) 

 

 

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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post
 


its ISC...lolz..

hey look, it says now: the item currently on transit to destination  :D 

 

yeah!!

Nah, it is ICS, International Capacitance Service.

post #12734 of 16692
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

And the battle begins!


nope it doesnt... everyone believes its own...just like people disagreeing thats its rubbish or not to buy a multi 1000 headphone amp...as loong what they believe makes them happy..its okay... and who knows..maybe i will one day buy a few very rare and expensive moon rocks to put under my rig to make it sound more universally :D 


Edited by hifimanrookie - 3/1/14 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post

And the battle begins!

Nah, Hifi is feeling good, his baby is coming home, finally.

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