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post #12616 of 14170
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

Yeah. I'm not suggesting they are necessarily better in all areas, but they are very enjoyable headphones. The T1s would still be my go to cans if I really want to analyse gear in the chain, etc. but the HE-500s could very easily earn more headtime overall I think...

 

I'd say those 2 get most of my home office head-time (where open headphones are OK), followed by the HD800 and HD600.   When I need isolation, I use the the SE846 (really a nice piece of work) and the W3s.

post #12617 of 14170
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Originally Posted by BobJS View Post
 

 

I'd say those 2 get most of my home office head-time (where open headphones are OK), followed by the HD800 and HD600.   When I need isolation, I use the the SE846 (really a nice piece of work) and the W3s.

 

How would you describe the SE846 sound signature compared to your full size phones? Which is it most similar to?

post #12618 of 14170
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post

Yeah. I'm not suggesting they are necessarily better in all areas, but they are very enjoyable headphones. The T1s would still be my go to cans if I really want to analyse gear in the chain, etc. but the HE-500s could very easily earn more headtime overall I think...

I feel the same way.
post #12619 of 14170
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Originally Posted by Loquah View Post
 

 

How would you describe the SE846 sound signature compared to your full size phones? Which is it most similar to?

 

That's such a difficult question for me.   I think the SE846 is the best sounding IEM I've owned (out of EX1000, W4, W3, SE530, GR07).  Sound stage is incredible, nice, deep subwoofer-like extension to the lows without being boomy or overly "bass-head", and nice shimmering highs without being sibilant. Extremely well balanced.  It handles poorer recordings well.  I guess I might actually compare it to the HE-500 in that the HE-500 is my go-to headphone where I know I'll be listening to recordings that might have harsh highs with my T1 or HD800.

 

We'll see how it goes some months from now when I can be sure I'm not suffering from new toy syndrome.

post #12620 of 14170
Hey dudes..i have a question for the usb audio specialist..and i am guessing the shiit guys are on top of that..so pls i hope one of u guys can answer this:

Tonight i had huge problems with my usb audio drivers...when i tried to play tracks trhough j river 19 it said it was used by another thingie..i almost made me install windows 7all over again....
BUT..just before i wanted to do that i tried one last google seach..and i came across some audio crazy dudes who were talking about some asio something drivers (standard provided by terratec soundcards..or something..as driver according to them) and that it was better then the OLD wasapi drivers windows provides...so i installed those asio something drivers dated nov. 2013.. And damn... The sound was so much more fuller then with wasapi.. I had put everything on zero..latency also almost on Zero..as i had hardware buffering enabled..and acording to their manual i could use minimal latency, buffers..etc.
But guys...the sound!!!

...but now i am doubting my ears for the first time..as i always believed that between two digital (usb) drivers there could be no soundquality difference...am i wrong? Or is this a HUGe placebo effect because i was so fed up with the beeeeeep wasapi usb driver issue???

Any of u can explain if what i hear is just in my head or actually a change in soundquality because these new asio (something) drivers are better then the regular old (from 2011 if i am not mistaken) usb wasapi drivers crappy windows 7 provided?

Thanks guys! its important to me as i want best drivers for my new amp ofcourse... tongue.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 2/27/14 at 7:46pm
post #12621 of 14170

If you look carefully under (Control Panel)->(Sound)[Playback tab]-->Your device/driver[properties button] another window will pop up.

One of the tabs on that window will be "Enhancements" which allows you to do different things to the audio, some offer EQ or bass boost and a bunch of other things, sometimes even things you might never imagine as "Pitch Shift". So as you can see there is some fooling around in the drivers, So between that and possibly a touch of placebo, you never know what'll happen.

I use ASIO4ALL with certain USB devices with my DAW software. I get the best latency and no glitches, which is important with DAW. Well glitches are NFG period.

ASIO = Audio Stream Input Output (recording industry standard)

ASIO outputs a low-latency audio stream from a computer. It bypasses the Windoze KMixer.

post #12622 of 14170

Further to ^^ it may also depend on how your Wasapi output was setup in JRiver. If you're not using exclusive mode (or if something else is trying to take control of the soundcard / DAC) you may not be getting bit-perfect sound. I have definitely found better consistency with the performance of my X-Sabre using ASIO drivers, but I don't think it sounds different, it's just more stable.

 

I think any differences you are hearing will be an indication of the Wasapi not being setup correctly or possibly something to do with the enhancements mentioned above. I drove myself nuts recently trying to listen for audible differences and (if setup the same - both exclusive, bit perfect, etc.) there was no audible difference between Wasapi and ASIO.

post #12623 of 14170

Am perfectly content with windows direct sound..

post #12624 of 14170
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Am perfectly content with windows direct sound..

 

Agree. It's so close to the bit perfect ones and it always works. I use ASIO because it works well on my setup, but I'd be happy with direct if it were my only option.

post #12625 of 14170
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Velour pads for a more open, clean, bright sound; pleathers for a more intimate, wet and dark sound.

I like the cleaner sound of the velour pads but dislike the bright sound so I assume the only solution is to find some jergpads or wait for the new ones from hifiman to come out ?

 

p.S: Is it going to be any difference in sound going from the stock cable , silver to cooper ?

post #12626 of 14170
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Originally Posted by vl4dimir View Post
 

I like the cleaner sound of the velour pads but dislike the bright sound so I assume the only solution is to find some jergpads or wait for the new ones from hifiman to come out ?

 

p.S: Is it going to be any difference in sound going from the stock cable , silver to cooper ?

Minor enough to be negligible / prone to placebo effect.

post #12627 of 14170
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post
 

Minor enough to be negligible / prone to placebo effect.

I was waiting for you to reply. I wasn't upto the potential cable storm, now it's on you brother. :D

post #12628 of 14170
^ I think the majority would agree with Jerg on this
post #12629 of 14170
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

^ I think the majority would agree with Jerg on this

^, yep but some cable fans get really upset when you contradict their beliefs.

post #12630 of 14170
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Originally Posted by ethan7000 View Post

^ I think the majority would agree with Jerg on this
Maybe on this as u call it mid-fi thread... biggrin.gif

I had have had 6 cables until now..and on my rig u certainly hear differences in how they sounded..or better said..how they let sound through..

it was no placebo effect! Same thing could be said for the jergpads! Are those differences placebo effect? Some say it is..no matter how its meassured..

but as always..if u have a mediocre amp/dac (mid-fi..of only a few hundred usd) u wont hear any improvement on cables etc..as those cables only improve (or make worse!) the soundexperience in a small way and only if u go up in quality (am not talking about price..BUT QUALITY) u will hear differences...

as i once said..on the humble mstage i once had i almost didnt hear differences between a double helix cable and the standard silver plated copper cable..except for better quality and less microphonics and better looking..but when i went to the modified 337 with TS tubes i could hear differences very easily when changing cables..

only one cable didnt improve sound as far my experience...USB cabling...

but powercables (good ones) and headphonecables change the soundsignature for the better or for the worse... But it all depends on ur rig to let it through..

.its like a car..standard 1.1l budget cars can use premium octane 95 and 98 or even 100.. But u wont feel any change how it drives..BUT..if u change ur gas from octane 95 to 100 on a turbo charged modified engine u will see changes in how it picks up and goes through the gears and in my case i found out it drives more economical also when driving on octane 100.. (That was a huge surprise!) And thats no placebo effect as it directly affects my wallet when i drive a (at least) 280hp car. biggrin.gif

Its same thing with amps and the rest of ur rig...if its just mediocre..no matter how good it is for the price...its just a waste of time and money to tune it more with cables etc..u wont hear it..and if u do its indeed placebo..or partly placebo... Imho ofcourse

but u know me..am like the lone ranger here on this thread the last few months tongue.gif
Edited by hifimanrookie - 2/28/14 at 8:52am
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