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post #12211 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Mdraluck23 View Post
 

Got to audition them for quite a while today, at the NorCal meet. I really like the entire HiFiMan Planar lineup. I think just all planars. 


Auditioned the new lineup? Any impressions?

post #12212 of 18030
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

The FiiO E07 is probably a few mW shy of HE-500 territory. I think Schiit has done some good work on the Asgard 2 and DC coupled the Class A amp. IMO once you get to a certain point the differences between SS amps are more imaginative and overly influenced by hype and the audio flash mob's chatter. I don't let myself get influenced by this as one will hear opposite opinions where little or no difference can actually be heard. Amps are not a complex engineering feat, IMO headphones are much harder to get right and once you get a decent amp headphones make a bigger difference. Even there the law of diminishing returns applies. I'd rather be able to enjoy listening to music than have my left eye fall out while straining to hear something that I don't think is worth the effort.

This is the HE-500 thread so quality and in some cases(like with the e7) quantity is an issue. I see no problems with the Asgard, but like I said I found it to be a bit thin with the bifrost pairing + HE-500 in the time I had it.

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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

I've always wondered if the Emo is actually any good with the HE-6. And whether the HE-6 is worth having over the HE-500.

 

Powerwise I find it easier to get amps for HE-6 because of the lower sensitivity, but in my experience HE-6 seems more picky about synergy. Some of the amps that I liked with HE-500 was just okay with HE-6. It seems that you want some good power to get keep HE -6 from lacking in the lower regions, but I think the Emo with its big toroid should be okay. I have no experience with the Emo, so can't really say anything about the match.

The polite presentation of the HE-500 makes it a good allrounder, but can get a bit boring with certain genres. HE-6 is more lively and forward, but still has 'the planar sound'.

I don't care much about soundstage, but I find that the HE-6 is playing a lot wider than HE-500 - Somewhat disturbing in the beginning, when you're used to the focused/centered HE-500.
For most people I think the HE-6 would be an upgrade, but I still see why some would prefer the HE-500 over the HE-6.

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Originally Posted by Anda View Post
 

 

Powerwise I find it easier to get amps for HE-6 because of the lower sensitivity, but in my experience HE-6 seems more picky about synergy. Some of the amps that I liked with HE-500 was just okay with HE-6. It seems that you want some good power to get keep HE -6 from lacking in the lower regions, but I think the Emo with its big toroid should be okay. I have no experience with the Emo, so can't really say anything about the match.

The polite presentation of the HE-500 makes it a good allrounder, but can get a bit boring with certain genres. HE-6 is more lively and forward, but still has 'the planar sound'.

I don't care much about soundstage, but I find that the HE-6 is playing a lot wider than HE-500 - Somewhat disturbing in the beginning, when you're used to the focused/centered HE-500.
For most people I think the HE-6 would be an upgrade, but I still see why some would prefer the HE-500 over the HE-6.

If you look at the graphs, the difference between the He-6 and He-500's are that the He-6 has a much more accentuated mid-treble, and high end extension (around 14,000-16,000Hz); so generally they would sound a lot more engaging and airy than the He-500's, most head-fier's prefer that kind of sound, some people can't stand it. But I have to admit, that mid-treble hump from 6000-9000 is an extremely impressive engineering feat by Bian Fang, generally you would expect major simbalence when listening, but it just doesn't exist in the He-6 (this also applies to all of his headphones). Overall, the He-500 are easier to drive than the He-6, and no one should expect them to sound the same. I personally could see myself enjoying the He-6 a lot more then the He-500's tonality-wise (though I bought the latter); but I can't see myself modding the He-6's (they're way too expensive).


I'm pretty sure I already wrote something like this in a previous post.
Edited by headphonatic - 2/17/14 at 6:55am
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To me the HE-500 has a bit extra sparkle anymore would be too much for me. The HE-500 has a small bump between 9 to 10 kHz which Jerg once posted and a Sonic Annoyance.I told him I like that term and will be using it :D This is not a large sharp resonant peak so it isn't something that will make one's left eye fall out.

So my doorbell rang early this morning, I thought, here's my Bifrost, my HE-500's have been ready since dawn. Nope, it was some printer cartridges.:mad: Two more packages to go, one of them has some Schitt in it.

post #12216 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

I have not tried a different source yet. Ooo I just took the grills off again, opened things up a little... I never really noticed the improvement before!

 

That does make quite a difference, doesn't it.  I was really surprised going from slightly more open custom grills to the hex grills.

 

At the risk of annoying you 'til your head explodes... a risk I'm willing to take :D... you really should try the Custom Cargrills or other wide open hex mesh.  So easy to make.  You'll get some protection and it'll be wide open, or you can tame it a little with some fabric.  Since you can get at least four pairs of grills from a 6" x 36" sheet, swapping between open and dust shield is easy peasy.  And, of course, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention what a certain set of pads can do for the soundstage and imaging, not to mention comfort ;)  A pair of cheap mods you'll be happy to live with after you do them.

post #12217 of 18030
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

To me the HE-500 has a bit extra sparkle anymore would be too much for me. The HE-500 has a small bump between 9 to 10 kHz which Jerg once posted and a Sonic Annoyance.I told him I like that term and will be using it :D This is not a large sharp resonant peak so it isn't something that will make one's left eye fall out.

So my doorbell rang early this morning, I thought, here's my Bifrost, my HE-500's have been ready since dawn. Nope, it was some printer cartridges.:mad: Two more packages to go, one of them has some Schitt in it.

 

Today is your second Christmas, Stan ;)  Enjoy it once you get it.

 

Also, you should avoid the Lyr, since you're an impatient person (not a criticism).  For example, I switched tubes this morning and the difference in presentation was immediately noticeable.  Granted they hadn't warmed up at all, but going from 1974 Voskhod Rockets to 1966 RTC E188CCs was remarkable.  The Russian tubes have some oomph all around, while the E188CCs are a bit light-weight on the bottom end, but have a gorgeous top end and seem more musical (or so I imagine).  I wasn't listening on the HE-500s (later for that; I expect some imaginative magic ;-), but on some modded Q701s.

 

So yeah, unless you've got the patience and inclination to mess around with your sound, tube rolling is not for you.  Just saying, I understand one reason why you like SS.  And now you'll have a SSS (Solid Schiit Stack).

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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

 

 1966 RTC E188CCs

 

Nice tubes, one of my favorites.

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Originally Posted by Fearless1 View Post
 

Nice tubes, one of my favorites.

 

:beerchug:

 

I lucked into them, getting my Lyr around the time someone was unloading their pair.  Now I read about people coveting them.  The 11th Commandment: Though shalt not covet thy fellow Head-Fier's gear.  Of course, we're a pack of heathens here, given the amount of covetousness that goes on ;)

 

Haven't listened to the RTC + HE-500s combo in a while, and not since I put new grills on.  Need to carve out some head time over the next few days.

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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Today is your second Christmas, Stan ;)  Enjoy it once you get it.

 

Also, you should avoid the Lyr, since you're an impatient person (not a criticism).  For example, I switched tubes this morning and the difference in presentation was immediately noticeable.  Granted they hadn't warmed up at all, but going from 1974 Voskhod Rockets to 1966 RTC E188CCs was remarkable.  The Russian tubes have some oomph all around, while the E188CCs are a bit light-weight on the bottom end, but have a gorgeous top end and seem more musical (or so I imagine).  I wasn't listening on the HE-500s (later for that; I expect some imaginative magic ;-), but on some modded Q701s.

 

So yeah, unless you've got the patience and inclination to mess around with your sound, tube rolling is not for you.  Just saying, I understand one reason why you like SS.  And now you'll have a SSS (Solid Schiit Stack).

The main reason that I like SS is because I prefer the pure sound it delivers. My impatience is in waiting for the damned Fedex truck to show up with my Schiit. It's 1:18 PM and they say it'll be here by 3 PM. Pacing pacing pacing........

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Soon I'll have my new soldering station and now also a multi meter. Bring it on! Anyone got ideas for a nice project when finished with the robinette box?

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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

The main reason that I like SS is because I prefer the pure sound it delivers. My impatience is in waiting for the damned Fedex truck to show up with my Schiit. It's 1:18 PM and they say it'll be here by 3 PM. Pacing pacing pacing........

 

Dig it.  Now, chillax.

<Looks for a certain emo>

Nope, no MJ emo for ya.  Best hit up Nimzerz ;)  Then you can use this: :popcorn:

post #12223 of 18030
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

That does make quite a difference, doesn't it.  I was really surprised going from slightly more open custom grills to the hex grills.

At the risk of annoying you 'til your head explodes... a risk I'm willing to take biggrin.gif ... you really should try the Custom Cargrills or other wide open hex mesh.  So easy to make.  You'll get some protection and it'll be wide open, or you can tame it a little with some fabric.  Since you can get at least four pairs of grills from a 6" x 36" sheet, swapping between open and dust shield is easy peasy.  And, of course, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention what a certain set of pads can do for the soundstage and imaging, not to mention comfort wink.gif   A pair of cheap mods you'll be happy to live with after you do them.
Omfg I saw that last part coming as I got near the end... Smh

Also, it's weird. I never immediately notice the open vs closed grills but after starting to get oddly fatigued and whatnot it really showed what difference it can make.

Yeah man, hmu on that mj emo schiit. I'd be down smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by Nimzerz - 2/17/14 at 10:49am
post #12224 of 18030
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


Omfg I saw that last part coming as I got near the end... Smh

Also, it's weird. I never immediately notice the open vs closed grills but after starting to get oddly fatigued and whatnot it really showed what difference it can make.

Yeah man, hmu on that mj emo schiit. I'd be down smily_headphones1.gif

 

Good!  That means the meme has been implanted successfully.  Just add imagination and watch it grow ;)

 

Are you saying the open grills get fatiguing for you?

 

Oh, I just assumed you'd know where to find said emo :p

post #12225 of 18030
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Originally Posted by davidsh View Post
 

Soon I'll have my new soldering station and now also a multi meter. Bring it on! Anyone got ideas for a nice project when finished with the robinette box?

Colossus The Forbin Project.

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