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post #12166 of 18018

I agree, but not everybody likes the weight of the HE-500. From my experience the HD580 was much more comfortable than the HE-500 so it is something to keep in mind. The HD650 scales well with better gear and from my experience I didn't like the DAC output from my Macbook Air straight to my Emotiva Mini-X.

post #12167 of 18018
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Originally Posted by daerron View Post

I agree, but not everybody likes the weight of the HE-500. From my experience the HD580 was much more comfortable than the HE-500 so it is something to keep in mind. The HD650 scales well with better gear and from my experience I didn't like the DAC output from my Macbook Air straight to my Emotiva Mini-X.
the hd650 DOES like the 337/339 pairing..i would say try it..i am guessing the soundsignature of the emotiva is not compatible with the warmer soundsignature of the hd650...
post #12168 of 18018
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Originally Posted by zabzaf View Post

Hi. I'm new to the community but appreciate all the great information. I'm new to headphone audio as I recently purchased a pair of HD650s and the Schiit Asgard 2. For a DAC, I'm using an old Lexicon Alpha music interface I've used for recording in the past. I also use my Mac Mini as my transport.

I've recently come across about $600 and I'm torn between the Bifrost Uber and a new pair or phones. I'm interested in HE-500s because I'm curious about the sound of planar magnetics. I like the sound of the HD650s with the Asgard 2 but am wondering if I'm missing something.

I mostly listen to Apple Lossless with an emphasis on indie rock, pop.

I would welcome any suggestions as to where I should spend my hard earned $$.

Oh, yes, I also use a pair of custom 1964 Ears V6 in the mix but mostly get used when mobile.


Here's my take. What's your goal? Short-term gratification or long-term benefit for your journey in this hobby? If you're looking for an immediate improvement, HE-500 and Emotiva MiniX is hard to beat for the price. However, as an owner of that setup I can tell you the drawbacks, and that is it kinda traps you where you can't scale up from it. Here's what I mean: If you got a Crack instead (get it used if you don't feel comfortable building one), it will be an improvement for your HD650, but probably not match up with HE-500 + Emotiva. However, getting the Crack will let you smoothly upgrade to the HD800, where if you went HE-500 + Emotiva, you can't really upgrade to a better headphone without also spending more to get a new amp as well.

post #12169 of 18018
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Originally Posted by Sonido View Post
 


Here's my take. What's your goal? Short-term gratification or long-term benefit for your journey in this hobby? If you're looking for an immediate improvement, HE-500 and Emotiva MiniX is hard to beat for the price. However, as an owner of that setup I can tell you the drawbacks, and that is it kinda traps you where you can't scale up from it. Here's what I mean: If you got a Crack instead (get it used if you don't feel comfortable building one), it will be an improvement for your HD650, but probably not match up with HE-500 + Emotiva. However, getting the Crack will let you smoothly upgrade to the HD800, where if you went HE-500 + Emotiva, you can't really upgrade to a better headphone without also spending more to get a new amp as well.


+1

I can definitely agree on the part that it's hard to scale higher if you want to. I'd love to try new things (though I wouldn't cause I can't afford it as a teenager haha) but the setup is kinda all one thing. HE-500 and emotiva are paired together, and can't really be broken apart. Though not to say that it won't be end game for you either--it's a wonderful setup.

post #12170 of 18018
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Here's my take. What's your goal? Short-term gratification or long-term benefit for your journey in this hobby? If you're looking for an immediate improvement, HE-500 and Emotiva MiniX is hard to beat for the price. However, as an owner of that setup I can tell you the drawbacks, and that is it kinda traps you where you can't scale up from it. Here's what I mean: If you got a Crack instead (get it used if you don't feel comfortable building one), it will be an improvement for your HD650, but probably not match up with HE-500 + Emotiva. However, getting the Crack will let you smoothly upgrade to the HD800, where if you went HE-500 + Emotiva, you can't really upgrade to a better headphone without also spending more to get a new amp as well.
Seems from this reasoning the Emotiva is the trap, not the HE500. Guessing the Emotiva doesn't pair well with the HE6, or any of the Audeze. Perhaps an amp that is more suitable for headphones than only the HE500 would solve this future upgrade scenario.
post #12171 of 18018
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Originally Posted by Zuckfun View Post


Seems from this reasoning the Emotiva is the trap, not the HE500. Guessing the Emotiva doesn't pair well with the HE6, or any of the Audeze. Perhaps an amp that is more suitable for headphones than only the HE500 would solve this future upgrade scenario.


True, there are plenty of other amps that would work with the HE500 as well as future headphones

post #12172 of 18018

I say go with the HE-500, you already have decent enough chain, and yes, the HD650 with the bottlehead is really impressive, but just adding on the HE-500 you can start upgrading the chain after that to higher grade amps and dacs, and at that point you will have 2 headphones that will both gain improvements through better gear :)

post #12173 of 18018
Wow. Great feedback and opinions from everyone. That's why I came here.

Being so new, I'm not sure where all of this will lead for me. After reading all the posts, I'm still not sure what to do. I just keep staring at this Lexicon unit thinking that that needs to replaced/upgraded first. It just isn't designed for this.

Then I think about the "upgrade the transducer" position which I tend to agree with as well. I also get the impression from the posts that the Asgard 2 doesn't pair well with the HE-500, thought it was not said.

I just don't know how often I'll get the chance to make this kind of purchase having a family, children, bills, ect.

Please keep the advice coming. After all, you don't have to worry about the wallet in this case!
post #12174 of 18018
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


True, there are plenty of other amps that would work with the HE500 as well as future headphones
Yep there are, and one is particular affordable and is has 3 numbers in its name..its used to drive he500's, hd650's,hd800's and since recently i found out it also drives a he6 perfectly, so its 100% future proof..hardest part is getting ur hands on one biggrin.gif
post #12175 of 18018
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Originally Posted by zabzaf View Post

Wow. Great feedback and opinions from everyone. That's why I came here.

Being so new, I'm not sure where all of this will lead for me. After reading all the posts, I'm still not sure what to do. I just keep staring at this Lexicon unit thinking that that needs to replaced/upgraded first. It just isn't designed for this.

Then I think about the "upgrade the transducer" position which I tend to agree with as well. I also get the impression from the posts that the Asgard 2 doesn't pair well with the HE-500, thought it was not said.

I just don't know how often I'll get the chance to make this kind of purchase having a family, children, bills, ect.

Please keep the advice coming. After all, you don't have to worry about the wallet in this case!

 

StanD drives his HE-500s with the Asgard2 and is quite happy with it.  I'll let him speak to the specifics, but figured I'd toss that in here.

post #12176 of 18018
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

StanD drives his HE-500s with the Asgard2 and is quite happy with it.  I'll let him speak to the specifics, but figured I'd toss that in here.


And I cant recall, but StanD when you comment on the Asgard 2/HE-500 pairing, do you also own and have you spent time comparing the Emotiva mini-X a-100/HE-500 combo against the Asgard 2/HE-500?

post #12177 of 18018
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Yep there are, and one is particular affordable and is has 3 numbers in its name..its used to drive he500's, hd650's,hd800's and since recently i found out it also drives a he6 perfectly, so its 100% future proof..hardest part is getting ur hands on one biggrin.gif


This one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-New-Darkvoice-337-Tube-Headphone-Amp-amplifier-AMP-/120644870788

post #12178 of 18018
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post
 


And I cant recall, but StanD when you comment on the Asgard 2/HE-500 pairing, do you also own and have you spent time comparing the Emotiva mini-X a-100/HE-500 combo against the Asgard 2/HE-500?


I'm pretty sure StanD doesn't believe in the extra power from a speaker amp is needed, and that the Schiit amps has enough juice to drive the HE-500 to ear popping levels. I don't have the technical know-how to explain what's special about the Emotiva beyond power, so I can't make an argument there.

 

Btw StanD, what's your view on current driving amps like the Bakoon HPA-21?

post #12179 of 18018
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post


True, there are plenty of other amps that would work with the HE500 as well as future headphones
Yep there are, and one is particular affordable and is has 3 numbers in its name..its used to drive he500's, hd650's,hd800's and since recently i found out it also drives a he6 perfectly, so its 100% future proof..hardest part is getting ur hands on one biggrin.gif
It might be a good idea to mention your 337 was modded intensively.
post #12180 of 18018
Yep ur maybe right...thats why the new owner uses him to power his he6 and hd800 perfectly probably
but still..even the latest standard models of the 337/339 are perfect in drivibg the hd650 or he500
Edited by hifimanrookie - 2/16/14 at 3:01pm
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