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Grazie!

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I guess because they are coming out with new models of the 400 and 500, the current stock is on sale at a pretty good price. Question for those who have heard or better yet, owned both. Is the 500 worth the extra $200. My dilemma is this, if I buy the 500 that will be my whole budget gone, if I get the 400 I will have enough left to get an amp (thinking about the Schiit Vali). I do have an amp so it isn't like I wont have one at all, but it is pretty old and may not be at its best any more.

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I guess because they are coming out with new models of the 400 and 500, the current stock is on sale at a pretty good price. Question for those who have heard or better yet, owned both. Is the 500 worth the extra $200. My dilemma is this, if I buy the 500 that will be my whole budget gone, if I get the 400 I will have enough left to get an amp (thinking about the Schiit Vali). I do have an amp so it isn't like I wont have one at all, but it is pretty old and may not be at its best any more.

What amp you got?

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I guess because they are coming out with new models of the 400 and 500, the current stock is on sale at a pretty good price. Question for those who have heard or better yet, owned both. Is the 500 worth the extra $200. My dilemma is this, if I buy the 500 that will be my whole budget gone, if I get the 400 I will have enough left to get an amp (thinking about the Schiit Vali). I do have an amp so it isn't like I wont have one at all, but it is pretty old and may not be at its best any more.

 

 

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What amp you got?

+1

Yeah, what amp you got?

Keep in mind, if you get a can that doesn't cut the mustard, no amp is going to fix that problem.


Edited by StanD - 2/9/14 at 3:40pm
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What amp you got?


I got it used, it is an old (I assume) Headroom Home. It is solid state, don't know much about it. Seems real well built and sounds pretty good with my Grado's (225i).

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I got it used, it is an old (I assume) Headroom Home. It is solid state, don't know much about it. Seems real well built and sounds pretty good with my Grado's (225i).

If I remember correctly Headroom had a good reputation. Find out if that model has enough power at 32 (38) Ohms to drive the HE-500's. One Watt will work just fine, but you can skate by with less (650 mW or so) until you can buy something with more muscle. Your Grado's are much more sensitive than the HE-500's.

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If I remember correctly Headroom had a good reputation. Find out if that model has enough power at 32 (38) Ohms to drive the HE-500's. One Watt will work just fine, but you can skate by with less (650 mW or so) until you can buy something with more muscle. Your Grado's are much more sensitive than the HE-500's.

Headroom amps are incredible sounding. I have owned a HUDA for a couple of years and to this day it is still one of my (if not my) favorite SS amps. The cross fade feature is worth the price of admission. The HUDA sounds fine with the HE-500, I know nothing about  the home amp.

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Headroom amps are incredible sounding. I have owned a HUDA for a couple of years and to this day it is still one of my (if not my) favorite SS amps. The cross fade feature is worth the price of admission. The HUDA sounds fine with the HE-500, I know nothing about  the home amp.

Now that's a good testimonial and a test of time. HPiper likes the sound of his Headroom as well. If the Home Amp has the juice he may be a happy camper with what he already has. I'd rather sink more money on the cans whenever possible.

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http://www.headphone.com/pdfs/HomeAmpManual.pdf says nothing about the output power.

 

Well, guess I'd go for the HE-500 as you have what must be considered a decent amp. I could see someone be more happy with HE-400 and a beefier amp on the same budget depending on taste, though.. But in the long run I think you'll be happy that you bought the HE-500.

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http://www.headphone.com/pdfs/HomeAmpManual.pdf says nothing about the output power.

 

Well, guess I'd go for the HE-500 as you have what must be considered a decent amp. I could see someone be more happy with HE-400 and a beefier amp on the same budget depending on taste, though.. But in the long run I think you'll be happy that you bought the HE-500.

+1

IMO the HE-500 has much better sound profile than the HE-400's which I think has the kind that an amp can't fix. Of course I just pissed off the HE-400 contingent. :eek:

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http://www.headphone.com/pdfs/HomeAmpManual.pdf says nothing about the output power.

 

Well, guess I'd go for the HE-500 as you have what must be considered a decent amp. I could see someone be more happy with HE-400 and a beefier amp on the same budget depending on taste, though.. But in the long run I think you'll be happy that you bought the HE-500.

+1

IMO the HE-500 has much better sound profile than the HE-400's which I think has the kind that an amp can't fix. Of course I just pissed off the HE-400 contingent. :eek:

Yeah, but again I could definitely see someone liking the HE-400 combo more. Is about taste. If I only listened to EDM, I'd see no reason to go for the HE-500 over HE-400 for example. Or one might just like the signature HE-400 has. Not that I do :D

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Yeah, but again I could definitely see someone liking the HE-400 combo more. Is about taste. If I only listened to EDM, I'd see no reason to go for the HE-500 over HE-400 for example. Or one might just like the signature HE-400 has. Not that I do :D

Me too. :D I listen to a wide range of music, which is why I like my HE-500's and HD600's.

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+1

IMO the HE-500 has much better sound profile than the HE-400's which I think has the kind that an amp can't fix. Of course I just pissed off the HE-400 contingent. :eek:

 

 

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Yeah, but again I could definitely see someone liking the HE-400 combo more. Is about taste. If I only listened to EDM, I'd see no reason to go for the HE-500 over HE-400 for example. Or one might just like the signature HE-400 has. Not that I do :D

 

 

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Me too. :D I listen to a wide range of music, which is why I like my HE-500's and HD600's.

Everyone sees this a bit different. To me, the HE-500's are my EDM cans as after getting them I really cant see a place for the HE-400's anywhere in my collection. I use the HE-500's for EDM, the HD-650's for vocal, jazz, instrumental, etc., and the AH-D5000's for hip hop, rap, or anything with heavy bass. I have found that I need different cans to better enjoy different genres of music. The HE-400's have since day one been way too fatiguing for my ears and the highs almost to the point of harsh.

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Everyone sees this a bit different. To me, the HE-500's are my EDM cans as after getting them I really cant see a place for the HE-400's anywhere in my collection. I use the HE-500's for EDM, the HD-650's for vocal, jazz, instrumental, etc., and the AH-D5000's for hip hop, rap, or anything with heavy bass. I have found that I need different cans to better enjoy different genres of music. The HE-400's have since day one been way too fatiguing for my ears and the highs almost to the point of harsh.

In the brief listen to the HE-400's that I had, my feelings were the same, harsh trebles. That was the basis of what why I said what I did about the HE-400's.

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As you might imagine one gets used to the he-400 treble. I did when having it for a couple of weeks.

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