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post #11626 of 18018
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Originally Posted by dfarina View Post

I was under the impression that the HE500 was still a slightly dark sounding headphone?Time will tell for me,if it's not to my liking I can always return it before my 30 day window.
Read in a different thread the HE500 is like a hybrid of the HE400 and the HD650. After several days of enjoyment, this description seems perfect. For me, it's a dream sound signature. Maybe it's the Jergpads, though bright or fatiguing are some of the last descriptions that come to mind. They seem smooth and seductive.
Edited by Zuckfun - 2/4/14 at 6:07pm
post #11627 of 18018
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Originally Posted by Zuckfun View Post


Read in a different thread the HE500 is like a hybrid of the HE400 and the HD650. After several days of enjoyment, this description seems perfect. For me, it's a dream sound signature. Maybe it's the Jergpads, though bright or fatiguing are some of the last descriptions that come to mind. They seem smooth and seductive.


Yea,that's the general consensus of most of the opinions I have herd on this headphone which is EXACTLY what I am looking for.I am going to hang in there for 100 hrs burn time before I make a final decision,really do want to like em,don't want to got through the whole returning process.I previously also had the LCD2.2,should have never sold em,but ideally I would want something just like them with a slight bit more sparkle up top which is what I am hoping the HE500 will provide.

post #11628 of 18018
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Originally Posted by dfarina View Post
 


Yea,that's the general consensus of most of the opinions I have herd on this headphone which is EXACTLY what I am looking for.I am going to hang in there for 100 hrs burn time before I make a final decision,really do want to like em,don't want to got through the whole returning process.I previously also had the LCD2.2,should have never sold em,but ideally I would want something just like them with a slight bit more sparkle up top which is what I am hoping the HE500 will provide.

I think that you may need to adjust to the different sound signature. The treble doesn't have any big resonant peaks, but does have a little one around 9 Khz that is not disturbing. Listen to cymbals and highhats and how clear they are, find the right song and check out the metallic clinks and clangs, you will be amazed.

post #11629 of 18018
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Originally Posted by ben_r_ View Post
 


Now get yourself an Emotiva mini-X a-100 for it and enjoy!

They are extremely hard to find in Aus. I may be getting an M-stage soon though. 

post #11630 of 18018
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Originally Posted by lin0003 View Post
 

They are extremely hard to find in Aus. I may be getting an M-stage soon though. 


 I have the newest M-Stage w/USB and will be getting my HE-500's in a couple days. I'll let you know how they sound!

post #11631 of 18018
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Originally Posted by TooPoor View Post
 


 I have the newest M-Stage w/USB and will be getting my HE-500's in a couple days. I'll let you know how they sound!

Nice! The HE-500 is nothing short of amazing, especially at today's prices. 

post #11632 of 18018

I'm not much of a headphone guy and if you had asked me a few years ago about spending $600 for a pair of headphones, I would have scoffed at the idea.

 

I do most of my listening thru a Naim based audio system but there are times when headphone listening is required.  For years, I used a pair of Grado SR80's for that purpose but found them to be extremely uncomfortable on my ears.  More recently, I also bought a pair of Sony MDR-1RBT for my long two hour roundtrip commute to work by subway.  In the case of the Sony's, I purchased them strictly for the Bluetooth feature and the convenience of not having to deal with wires although they sound quite good for a Bluetooth set and ultimately preferred them over the Parrot Zik and Logitech UE-9000.

 

Just yesterday, I placed an order for the HE-500's to be used for critical listening at home.  After much online research and deliberation, I settled on the these as these seem to be the closest thing to what I value most n terms of sonics.  Other headphones in contention were Audeze LCD-2, Fostex TH-900, Sennheiser HD600/650/800, HIFIMAN HE-6 and Grado PS1000.

 

Hopefully, I made the right choice and looking forward to receiving them in two weeks time.

post #11633 of 18018
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Originally Posted by dfarina View Post

I was under the impression that the HE500 was still a slightly dark sounding headphone?Time will tell for me,if it's not to my liking I can always return it before my 30 day window.

HE-500 is slightly dark and has smooth treble to my ears (with modded pleathers). It brightens up, especially in the treble, with those velours. I still don't find them bright or anything with velours, though, but I prefer the pleather sound signature.

post #11634 of 18018
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Originally Posted by trhee View Post
 

I'm not much of a headphone guy and if you had asked me a few years ago about spending $600 for a pair of headphones, I would have scoffed at the idea.

 

I do most of my listening thru a Naim based audio system but there are times when headphone listening is required.  For years, I used a pair of Grado SR80's for that purpose but found them to be extremely uncomfortable on my ears.  More recently, I also bought a pair of Sony MDR-1RBT for my long two hour roundtrip commute to work by subway.  In the case of the Sony's, I purchased them strictly for the Bluetooth feature and the convenience of not having to deal with wires although they sound quite good for a Bluetooth set and ultimately preferred them over the Parrot Zik and Logitech UE-9000.

 

Just yesterday, I placed an order for the HE-500's to be used for critical listening at home.  After much online research and deliberation, I settled on the these as these seem to be the closest thing to what I value most n terms of sonics.  Other headphones in contention were Audeze LCD-2, Fostex TH-900, Sennheiser HD600/650/800, HIFIMAN HE-6 and Grado PS1000.

 

Hopefully, I made the right choice and looking forward to receiving them in two weeks time.

You should be happy with them. Nice list of final contenders. The HE-500 doesn't need extreme amping like some, e.g., HE-6.

post #11635 of 18018
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You should be happy with them. Nice list of final contenders. The HE-500 doesn't need extreme amping like some, e.g., HE-6.

That was also a plus with the HE-500s since, at least for the burn-in period, they'll be running off of a Mytek 192 DSD DAC's headphone out.  From there, I guess I'll have to reevaluate and see if a proper headphone amp will be needed or not.  Hopefully not though. :D

 

If they do, I'll cross that bridge when the time comes.

post #11636 of 18018
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Originally Posted by trhee View Post
 

That was also a plus with the HE-500s since, at least for the burn-in period, they'll be running off of a Mytek 192 DSD DAC's headphone out.  From there, I guess I'll have to reevaluate and see if a proper headphone amp will be needed or not.  Hopefully not though. :D

 

If they do, I'll cross that bridge when the time comes.

Nice looking PCB, although I didn't see spec's for the  headphone output nor power transistors on the amp part of the PCB. Did it come with specs for the headphone output? If so, put them out for us to look at.

Your treat is on the way.

post #11637 of 18018

Mytek 192 DSD DAC

 

  • Conversion: 32bit, PCM up to 192k, 64xDSD, 128xDSD.
  • Dynamic Range: 128dB (ESS Sabre chipset in 8 mono to 2 stereo config.) THD DAC: -110dB.
  • Digital Audio Inputs: SPDIF, AES/EBU, Toslink all up to 192k single wire.

                                     (64xDSD and 128XDSD SDIF DSD interface on Mastering Version).

  • Clock: Internal Clock Generator (10ps jitter), Wordclock In and Out, or sync to incoming digital audio input with low jitter JET (tm) PLL.
  • Internal Async Hardware Upsampling- 16bit 44.1k etc. can be optionally upsampled prior to conversion to 192k/24bit with clock jitter eliminated.
  • Transparent, 1dB stepped programmable analog attenuator, separate for main out and head-phones.
  • Relay bypass of the attenuator for direct purist DAC out.
  • A pair of unbalanced RCA analog outs for preamp functions (assignable to volume control) (In
  • Preamp Version).
  • High Current, High Slew Rate ultra low distortion 500mA hi-fi headphone amp.
  • Worldwide user switchable linear power supply.
  • Online downloadable firmware updates.
  • Ability of converting standard digital audio inputs into computer FW/USB input.
  • Optional infrared remote (avail 2012).
  • Enclosure: Compact portable 1/2 rack space 1.72in H x 8.5in W x 8.5in D.
  • Weight 6 lbs.


User Menu Choices:

  • - Functions assignable to buttons: MUTE, PHASE INVERT, MONO, DIM
  • - Selection of clock choices
  • - Choice of upsampling or not
  • - Selection of slow or fast/steep filter for PCM
  • - Selection of 3 filters for out of band DSD
  • - Assignable input selection (display only active)
  • - Dimmable intensity of display/led meter

 

There's also a thread about the DAC here on Head-Fi:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/622248/mytek-stereo-192-dsd-dac-preamp-amplifier-review-appreciation-thread

post #11638 of 18018

Power = Current^2 * Impedance

So for the HE-500:

9.5 Watts = 0.5^2 * 38 which would require 19V RMS or nearly 55 Vp-p. Sounds like it's too good to be true.

They do not specify at which impedance it can supply this current. I do not see how they can achieve this without power transistors. Are ther power transistor off the PCB that I didn't see in the picture? I would contact them and ask for the specs:

Power and Vp-p at the popular impedances, e.g, 8, 16, 32, 150, 300 and 600 Ohms.

post #11639 of 18018
They don't say at which impedance. It could even be at 8 ohm, lol
post #11640 of 18018
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Power = Current^2 * Impedance

So for the HE-500:

9.5 Watts = 0.5^2 * 38 which would require 19V RMS or nearly 55 Vp-p. Sounds like it's too good to be true.

They do not specify at which impedance it can supply this current. I do not see how they can achieve this without power transistors. Are ther power transistor off the PCB that I didn't see in the picture? I would contact them and ask for the specs:

Power and Vp-p at the popular impedances, e.g, 8, 16, 32, 150, 300 and 600 Ohms.

Other than what I listed, headphone amp specs are nowhere to be found.  From what I've read from owners of the DAC here on Head-Fi is that it can drive headphones such as the Senn800 and Audeze LCD2's quite well.

 

I'm sure the Mytek can drive the HE-500's, it's just a matter of how well and how they will sound partnered to each other.  If the combination doesn't work out, then I'll have to do some research on head-amps although I've been reading up on them just out of curiosity.

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