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post #11311 of 15257
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Originally Posted by Nimzerz View Post
 

One thing that I will say is that even though the 14khz-20khz boost on the HE500 adds "air" it also sounds pretty artificial...

Yes but I think it depends more on personal preference...consider this:  If someone is more sensitive to 14kHz-18kHz region, then they would need less of an emphasis there to achieve a more natural/correct sound to them, and vice versa.  Because of variances like this, I can totally understand why some would want more emphasis in this region.  I'm one of the ones who enjoys the treble presentation in the HE-500 but I'm not limited there.  I also quite like the way treble is presented in both HD600 and Lambdas for pretty different reasons, and of course there are some I've tried that I didn't much care for the treble or it was just too grainy/harsh/peaky.  Don't get me wrong, more air is a good thing and adds another dimension in terms of rendering realistic sounding ambiance...and e-stats come to mind here as being among the top contenders for rendering air best.  I would say the amount of air in the HE-500 is certainly better than most, but there are headphones out there that indeed do it better with other compromises...you can't have it all lol. If one of the newer models can retain or improve on the traits of, say, the HE-500 (their tonal balance, especially in the mids and intimacy of vocals/strings, perhaps a bit more refinement in the bass) and give a greater, even more realistic sense of air without overdoing it for my own tastes, well...that would truly be amazing.

 

I'd also agree that there is a limit to what you can do with EQ ultimately, software or hardware...

post #11312 of 15257
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Originally Posted by modulor View Post
 

Yes but I think it depends more on personal preference...consider this:  If someone is more sensitive to 14kHz-18kHz region, then they would need less of an emphasis there to achieve a more natural/correct sound to them, and vice versa.  Because of variances like this, I can totally understand why some would want more emphasis in this region.  I'm one of the ones who enjoys the treble presentation in the HE-500 but I'm not limited there.  I also quite like the way treble is presented in both HD600 and Lambdas for pretty different reasons, and of course there are some I've tried that I didn't much care for the treble or it was just too grainy/harsh/peaky.  Don't get me wrong, more air is a good thing and adds another dimension in terms of rendering realistic sounding ambiance...and e-stats come to mind here as being among the top contenders for rendering air best.  I would say the amount of air in the HE-500 is certainly better than most, but there are headphones out there that indeed do it better with other compromises...you can't have it all lol. If one of the newer models can retain or improve on the traits of, say, the HE-500 (their tonal balance, especially in the mids and intimacy of vocals/strings, perhaps a bit more refinement in the bass) and give a greater, even more realistic sense of air without overdoing it for my own tastes, well...that would truly be amazing.

 

I'd also agree that there is a limit to what you can do with EQ ultimately, software or hardware...

 

I think the bass is pretty packed and tight; the bass does lack a little detail though. What the He 500 excels best at IMO is it's resolution and clarity along with a punchy deep end, what it lacks is mid-treble and mid-bass causing a separation between the mids, treble, and bass (everything seems to play on it's own, like how the bass doesn't bleed into the mids, or vice-versa), but if you ask me I wouldn't have it any other way.

post #11313 of 15257
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Originally Posted by headphonatic View Post

I think the bass is pretty packed and tight; the bass does lack a little detail though. What the He 500 excels best at IMO is it's resolution and clarity along with a punchy deep end, what it lacks is mid-treble and mid-bass causing a separation between the mids, treble, and bass (everything seems to play on it's own, like how the bass doesn't bleed into the mids, or vice-versa), but if you ask me I wouldn't have it any other way.
The modulor pads 2.0 solved that for me for the big part... But now i have my new phone i see that the he500 needs some upper treble and clarity and a bit more mid bass...
post #11314 of 15257
"I'm going for the paradoxes, thank you everyone for you inputs, both subjective and objective were heavily appreciated, the neutrality just won me over, plus I dislike dark headphones. Again I thank you."
 
-I remember when I posted this, now i feel like a complete hypocrite, thanks everyone.
post #11315 of 15257
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Originally Posted by headphonatic View Post
 
"I'm going for the paradoxes, thank you everyone for you inputs, both subjective and objective were heavily appreciated, the neutrality just won me over, plus I dislike dark headphones. Again I thank you."
 
-I remember when I posted this, now i feel like a complete hypocrite, thanks everyone.


Have you decided on a substitute amp for your O2 yet?

post #11316 of 15257

Oh yeah, getting the Emotiva whenever I can save up enough; probably this month, anyways, thanks everyone.

post #11317 of 15257

:) You will be happy. Update me and everyone else when you get it, and your impressions when the time comes!

post #11318 of 15257

Sounds good man, I'll also be experimenting with jergpads 

post #11319 of 15257
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Originally Posted by headphonatic View Post
 

Sounds good man, I'll also be experimenting with jergpads 


I will have my pair very soon, as they are going to ship within the next day. I'll post impressions when I get them.

post #11320 of 15257
500's came today, maybe it's too early for impressions. Coming from the 400's, there isn't even a hint of sibilance on the 500's. And the sound quality is a huge step up. More body, more presence- a very engaging presentation. On a side note, for months I've read about the weight of these headphones. Maybe I was expecting heavier- when first putting them on I thought I made a mistake and put on the 400's. Maybe after time it will be more apparent. Anyways, these headphones are amazing. Hard to imagine it getting much better than this. Listening to live music, I'm in the balcony of heaven tonight.
post #11321 of 15257

^ it will only get better from here.  :beerchug:

post #11322 of 15257
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Originally Posted by Zuckfun View Post

500's came today, maybe it's too early for impressions. Coming from the 400's, there isn't even a hint of sibilance on the 500's. And the sound quality is a huge step up. More body, more presence- a very engaging presentation. On a side note, for months I've read about the weight of these headphones. Maybe I was expecting heavier- when first putting them on I thought I made a mistake and put on the 400's. Maybe after time it will be more apparent. Anyways, these headphones are amazing. Hard to imagine it getting much better than this. Listening to live music, I'm in the balcony of heaven tonight.

 

Congrats.  Are you driving them with your Lyr?  Also, the 150 hours recommended burn-in should really help.  Enjoy for now.  The modding bug will bite you ;)

post #11323 of 15257
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post

Congrats.  Are you driving them with your Lyr?  Also, the 150 hours recommended burn-in should really help.  Enjoy for now.  The modding bug will bite you wink.gif
Yep, driving them with the Lyr. Already have Jergpads, started off listening with these. Maybe I'll try the grill mod sometime soon. Sure are a great pair of headphones.
post #11324 of 15257

Is there somewhere I can buy jergpads, Nimzerz mentioned that he got his shipped.

post #11325 of 15257
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Congrats.  Are you driving them with your Lyr?  Also, the 150 hours recommended burn-in should really help.  Enjoy for now.  The modding bug will bite you ;)

Instigator, let's see what trouble you can stir up. :popcorn:

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