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post #11221 of 18092
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Originally Posted by ThurstonX View Post
 

 

Very well stated.

 

I haven't read the specs, and I don't have the background to make an educated comparison even I had read them, but can you compare the Asgard 2 to the O2 (I pick that, as it's common and about the same price).

The Asgard 2 can deliver more power.

The O2 has less distortion spec's but are not clear on the conditions. The Asgard 2 was measured under worst case conditions. but both are well below what a human can perceive.

The Asgard 2 has less noise even though the O2 lists a better number but at a lower output, although they don't spec the gain at that measurement, call that specmanship. Both are very quiet.

The Asgard 2 has better crosstalk figures,

Neither specify transient distortion (almost nobody does :mad:), however, the Asgard 2 is a low or no feedback design which is less susceptible to this.They're probably both fine in this regard.

 

If your driving HE-500's the Asgard 2 is a better choice as to the power level being 1.0W at 32 Ohms and the O2 is 0.613W at 33 Ohms. The Asgard also delivers more power to high impedance cans.

The O2 is inexpensive and a good value.

 

I haven't listened to the O2 so I can't say firsthand, specwise it's nice as long as you don't need the power. I have an Asgard2 and it sounds very good.

post #11222 of 18092
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post

Haha. Funny stuff hifimanrookie.

I want an Aventador under my butt.
I am not kidding i saw a few pics of the owner of ray samuels audio (rsa) getting his aventador being delivered..and thats another 'affordable' brand..hehehehe but the rest u can take it as funny...am all relaxed now..well..its almost 3 am here..but have my code-x on my head.. Damn..i want my amp!!!! NOW!! Grrrrrrr
post #11223 of 18092
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

The Asgard 2 can deliver more power.

The O2 has less distortion spec's but are not clear on the conditions. The Asgard 2 was measured under worst case conditions. but both are well below what a human can perceive.

The Asgard 2 has less noise even though the O2 lists a better number but at a lower output, although they don't spec the gain at that measurement, call that specmanship. Both are very quiet.

The Asgard 2 has better crosstalk figures,

Neither specify transient distortion (almost nobody does :mad:), however, the Asgard 2 is a low or no feedback design which is less susceptible to this.They're probably both fine in this regard.

 

If your driving HE-500's the Asgard 2 is a better choice as to the power level being 1.0W at 32 Ohms and the O2 is 0.613W at 33 Ohms. The Asgard also delivers more power to high impedance cans.

The O2 is inexpensive and a good value.

 

I haven't listened to the O2 so I can't say firsthand, specwise it's nice as long as you don't need the power. I have an Asgard2 and it sounds very good.

 

Thanks for taking the time, Stan.  You are, indeed, the man.

post #11224 of 18092
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


I am not kidding i saw a few pics of the owner of ray samuels audio (rsa) getting his aventador being delivered..and thats another 'affordable' brand..hehehehe but the rest u can take it as funny...am all relaxed now..well..its almost 3 am here..but have my code-x on my head.. Damn..i want my amp!!!! NOW!! Grrrrrrr


Ray owns an Aventador???

 

-.-...

 

I need to go back to school and learn to build overpriced amps...

 

I came home from work and I have my LCD-2 on my head. Haha. Beautiful end game sound (opps wrong thread)


Edited by M-13 - 1/22/14 at 6:13pm
post #11225 of 18092
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 


It would help if you listed specific "unnecessary" expensive amps you've tried. I know you mentioned you live in New York and have tried everything that was expensive out there but haven't named anything specific. It would impress me more if you said You've tried some of the more popular expensive amps like the GS-X MkII, Master 9, WA5, BHA-1, Balancing Act, Liquid Glass or Gold, etc, etc. and then still tell us people who own such gear are imagining things. Because I honestly don't think people are that stupid...

I put my ears to a WA5-LE just a few weeks ago. One of my stock broker buddies has one. Sounds great for a tube amp, just a touch of background noise, not bad for a tubie. The thing weighs a ton. I liked the two jacks for high and low impedance cans. If was going to blow a few grand on a tube amp, this would be a good choice. I can honestly say that since I like a clean sound, I prefer an SS amp that can achieve this for far less money. For a tube amp it did sound very nice but at a price. You can probably find a tube amp that sounds just as good for less.

Yes people that like to spend a ton on an amp will hear things differently. If someone wants to spend a ton on an amp, that's fine with me, it is their money. Once you get past certain conditions you can spend a million dollars and it won't make a difference, that's just reality. I'd put more money in cans where it really makes a difference, Even with cans one is subject to the law of diminishing returns, but there are many more determining factors and acoustics that come into play in cans than in amps.

You wouldn't catch me dead at the end of a $50 eBay tube amp, you could get electrocuted while drinking a glass of water :eek: or maybe not.

post #11226 of 18092
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


Well said...well..i stay curious always wink.gif AND always respectful to others and otlher opinions...and i know shiit makes good stuff for tjhe money..i myself wanted to buy the mjolnir tongue.gif

Talking about curious...how is ur bakoon doing now? am guessing its burned in by now? Is it what u expected to be? How is the pairing with the he500?as thats a very rare amp here on headfi...but a very very good one i read about it.

 

I love the bakoon compared to my old Decware Taboo but they are very different. I suspect certain people would like the Taboo more because of the high end tube sound. I might move it into the tv room and put some speakers in there. I also recently changed my DAC to the Concero HD which together offered significant improvements all around. The Bakoon and concero hd both offer increased soundstage so, when combined I got a big boost in stage width/depth and now the HE-500 which is known to have a narrowish stage actually sounds very wide. The Bakoon also offers more speed  and accuracy without sounding sharp at all.

 

All in all I'm very satisfied with my current setup. I'm going to the meet in Feb so hopefully I dont get any ideas :P. I would like to try the HE-6 and the TH-900 in my system at some point, but I would not buy them without trying first. Hopefully I will get to do that at the meet. Supposedly this amp does well with the HE-6, which makes sense since I only go to volume level 1 when listening on the HE-500

 

post #11227 of 18092
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post
 


Ray owns an Aventador???

 

-.-...

 

I need to go back to school and learn to build overpriced amps...

 

I came home from work and I have my LCD-2 on my head. Haha. Beautiful end game sound (opps wrong thread)

Yep, an audiophile and his money are easily parted. A good business plan.:D

When are you getting an LCD-XC? For when you don't want to share your music. Oops, wrong thread.

post #11228 of 18092
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Originally Posted by StanD View Post
 

Yep, an audiophile and his money are easily parted. A good business plan.:D

When are you getting an LCD-XC? For when you don't want to share your music. Oops, wrong thread.

I think my celing is the LCD-2. It blows my mind everytime I listen to them and it's been 2 years. Had my drivers replaced in October of 2013 and they're better than ever. If the X and XC are even better, they are completely unnecssary for me as I would probably lose my mind and all sense of time and reality, wake up deaf 10 days later with drool and vomit all over my shirt wondering what the hell happened after I hit play.

post #11229 of 18092
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post


Ray owns an Aventador???

-.-...

I need to go back to school and learn to build overpriced amps...

I came home from work and I have my LCD-2 on my head. Haha. Beautiful end game sound (opps wrong thread)
I use my (rather rare) beyers mmx300 for intense gaming (its built like a tank)..i actually prefered them over the he500 i had...its very good in pinpointing ur enemies..hehehe kill, destroy the beeeeep alien basterds..oopsie.. biggrin.gif
post #11230 of 18092
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post


I use my (rather rare) beyers mmx300 for intense gaming (its built like a tank)..i actually prefered them over the he500 i had...its very good in pinpointing ur enemies..hehehe kill, destroy the beeeeep alien basterds..oopsie.. biggrin.gif


Cool man. Killing bastards is always fun. If I was gaming like that I would get the AKG K701, cuz that thing is awesome for soundstaging and imaging. Mad Lust Envy puts them in the god-tier for gaming and I agree. It's pretty darn cheap right now too.

post #11231 of 18092
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Originally Posted by M-13 View Post


Cool man. Killing bastards is always fun. If I was gaming like that I would get the AKG K701, cuz that thing is awesome for soundstaging and imaging. Mad Lust Envy puts them in the god-tier for gaming and I agree. It's pretty darn cheap right now too.
And best thing..u dont bother anyone...they are closed back...u could kill everything extremely fast with volume on high level and still no one hears it around me in the house....and also for me..those phones are the most comfortable phones i ever felt on my head... And most robust..i cant remember how many times it felt on the floor..and it is still working perfectly..this year i am going to recable him..thats hard task..as its hardwired and has the cables coming only from one side of the phones..so they have to open him up completely

...i used to play unreal and farcry and half life among some others and with these phones and the ASTRO mixamp i use with them its perfect for gaming and movies on my pc..for music i ofcourse preferred my he500 and now my code-x biggrin.gif
Yes..they are very well regarded in the gaming community..and if ur lucky u can get them for less then 399euros here in europe... A bargain as it will last a lifetime!
And i agree with u..the k701 is the other phone for gaming i would consider..if only they were not openbacked
Edited by hifimanrookie - 1/22/14 at 6:48pm
post #11232 of 18092
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Originally Posted by Llloyd View Post

I love the bakoon compared to my old Decware Taboo but they are very different. I suspect certain people would like the Taboo more because of the high end tube sound. I might move it into the tv room and put some speakers in there. I also recently changed my DAC to the Concero HD which together offered significant improvements all around. The Bakoon and concero hd both offer increased soundstage so, when combined I got a big boost in stage width/depth and now the HE-500 which is known to have a narrowish stage actually sounds very wide. The Bakoon also offers more speed  and accuracy without sounding sharp at all.

All in all I'm very satisfied with my current setup. I'm going to the meet in Feb so hopefully I dont get any ideas :P. I would like to try the HE-6 and the TH-900 in my system at some point, but I would not buy them without trying first. Hopefully I will get to do that at the meet. Supposedly this amp does well with the HE-6, which makes sense since I only go to volume level 1 when listening on the HE-500


Good for u..i heard good things about the bakoon amps..u almost dont see them in the wild...very unknown..just like the brand of my new amp..
I was going for the he6 also..but ended up with a very rare beast.. And until now..i am happy with it...
Level 1 on ur amp?..then i am guessing u have around 10 watts into 32 ohms or something? That would be more then enough juice to drive a he6 wink.gif
But a warning...a he6 is a very different phone then the he500... Once u go that way u wont turn back..u have been warned wink.gif

New dac also? Never heard of concero before..will have to google it, as i am always curious for stuff i dont know biggrin.gif
post #11233 of 18092
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Originally Posted by hifimanrookie View Post

New dac also? Never heard of concero before..will have to google it, as i am always curious for stuff i dont know biggrin.gif

 

Did you see this thread?

 

IIRC the Concero is mentioned favorably in the summation post, but I could be mistaken.  Interesting read nonetheless.

post #11234 of 18092

Concero is pure awesomeness

post #11235 of 18092

@StanD Your stock broker buddy's doing it wrong. Just saw Wolf of Wall Street. Didn't see a single headphone or amp. Actually maybe it was in the background, but between the naked ladies and Margot Robbie, I wasn't really paying attention to be honest. :veryevil:

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